Lilywhite wingers warn Cosby to "get his black ass back on the plantation"

[BurtWorm]

From a winger Website:


Dr. William Cosby best get his black ass back on the plantation or the liberal slave masters will label another educated and successful black man an "Uncle Tom" for not parroting the" whoa is me I'm a black man and need your help to survive".


This is in reference to Cosby's graduation speech at Howard U in which railed, like a true member of the bourgeoisie, against black vernacular, bling-bling and "the incarcerated." ("These are not political criminals. These are people going around stealing Coca-Cola. People getting shot in the back of the head over a piece of pound cake and then we run out and we are outraged, (saying) 'The cops shouldn't have shot him.' What the hell was he doing with the pound cake in his hand?")

I have a feeling Cosby has not joined hands with the Sowells, Williamses, and Thomasses of the world, unfortunately for their lilywhite conservative brethren. He's just being a rich guy. But these freepers love to steal that phrase "back to the plantation" from the Panthers to show how "down" they are with the "brothers." :eyes:

Oh and by the way, this freeper was really, really impressed by the following:

"Bill Cosby really does have a doctorate degree in education, an earned degree not Honorary."

Wow, freepers! A negro with a real "earned" degree! That's almost as amazing to these guys as a negro who votes Republican!

[Wind Dancer]

1. I can't read those freeper websites

They scare me!

[noiretextatique]

2. i detest cosby

for personal reasons.

[Stuckinthebush]

3. He did something to you?

Jeez...do tell!

[noiretextatique]

4. nah...a long time ago

when i lived in LA, someone I knew had an unpleasant encounter with him.

[Stuckinthebush]

6. He always seems so happy and upbeat

Like a bowl full of Jell-O!

[sangh0]

21. Did it involve misogony?

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[justjones]

5. Stealing Coke & pound cake = you deserve to get shot in the head?

Cosby has lost his freakin' mind.

[BurtWorm]

7. Isn't Cosby a Coke spokesperson?

It would be a capital crime for him to steal his bread and butter. ;)

[WI_DEM]

9. I think he was not being serious

rather pointing out that alot of these people are being shot for stealing coke or pound cake and that is the true crime.

[theboss]

8. Strange that another thread here offered nearly universal praise to Cosby

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1638331&mesg_id=1638331

I will quote myself from it.

Cosby has been on this kick for years.

It predates the death of his son.

About ten years ago, he caused some controversy by complaining that shows like "Martin" and "Def Comedy Jam" were forcing blacks to act - in his words - like "minstrels."

And the truth is, he has a point. Youth culture in general - which is largely being driven by black youth culture - is growing increasingly negative, I think. And the trend towards extreme anti-intellectualism is alarming.

This is basically what Chris Rock was talking about in his "Black people vs. N-----s" riff. "(They) love to keep it real....real dumb."

[BurtWorm]

12. "Martin" was a minstrel show?

Well, not every show can be "Fat Albert." (Did he really pick on Martin?)

Anyway, I'm not criticizing Cosby because I don't know the context. If he really said it's understandable for cops to shoot people stealing food, I have a little problem with that. But my real problem is with freepers using that phrase "back on the plantation"--which one of their African-American winger heroes stole from Malcolm X, if I remember correctly. That's about the only use freepers have for Malcom X.

[theboss]

14. Yep. He said that.

And I don't get the point of getting mad at Freepers for, well, acting like Freepers.

I think what Cosby is interesting without worrying what Fringe whackos have to say about it.

[BurtWorm]

17. It's just a pet peeve of mine. I can't help it.

Something I've noticed for the last several years, the vast number of constipated freeper dudes who idolize Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams and who think that gives them the special insight to know where "the plantation" is. In their feeble minds, "the plantation" is the welfare state. They really believe that the left believes welfare is for African-Americans (maybe because freepers actually think that's who welfare is for).

[BurtWorm]

18. It's just a pet peeve of mine. I can't help it.

Something I've noticed for the last several years, the vast number of constipated freeper dudes who idolize Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams and who think that gives them the special insight to know where "the plantation" is. In their feeble minds, "the plantation" is the welfare state. They really believe that the left believes welfare is for African-Americans (maybe because freepers actually think that's who welfare is for).

[DarkPhenyx]

22. There was a survey done, a few years back...

...where black students were asked to list things that were "white". On the list were things like "getting good grades" and "being in honors classes" and "going to college". As of the last time I heard the attitude hadn't changed much.

[DarkPhenyx]

10. Perhaps we should listen to what Cosby was saying...

...and not how he was saying it. Translation: If he gets shot during the execution of a crime it dosen't make him a victimized black man. It makes him a criminal.

[justjones]

19. That's precisely what I have a problem with....

The message is clear and obvious to anyone with sense. However, the way he is saying it is problematic, at least to me, not because I think the man who is shot during the execution of a crime is not a criminal, but the use of excessive force is still a problem in the black community.

The way he words it dismisses the fact that there have been cases where black folks have been shot without provocation...so I assume it was because they "appeared" criminal. Given the racism that still pervades our society, that puts all black people at risk, whether they speak ebonics or proper English, criminal or innocent.

[DarkPhenyx]

20. No, it dosen't dismiss that.

It does address, however, the fact that you can't have a black man involved in an incident with the cops w/o the racism card getting played.

I believe it was Jessie Jackson who said something like "We ask that they judge us not by the color of our skin but by the content of our character. Right up until they want to judge us. Then we want them to see the color of our skin and not the content of our character." He wasn't happy about that fact.

It is worth pointing out that the blacks are not the only ones who suffer racism. Nor are whites the only pones who practice it. Blacks can be equally racist in attitude towards whites. And there have been instances where a wite was killed by a non-white simply because of the color of their skin. Hells bells! Blacks are racist against their own people at least as often as other races are in this day and age.

You are painting a very one dimentional picture for an issue that is far more complex.

[justjones]

25. Well, I don't think I am.

I believe I acknowledged what Cosby said was valid, but only to a certain extent. I tried to elaborate that it is indeed a much more complicated issue. I know that any black man involved in an incident with the cops isn't always a consequence of racism, but by the same token, you can't say that black men aren't disproportionately targeted by the police merely for the color of their skin. There are plenty witnesses to this fact and just ask the black people who end up dead at the hands of the police even though they posed no threat.

Believe me, I'm not "playing the race card," as some would say it. I always give situations the benefit of the doubt before I even start to remotely consider racism.

The fact is it isn't one way or the other, but a mixture of black people being targeted and some actually being involved in criminal activity, thus its complicated nature. The hard part comes when trying to distinguish between the two, which must be considered on an individual basis.

[TNDemo]

11. Whoa is me??

Obviously not taken from the printed script of Cosby's speech if he wrote it since with an earned degree he would know it was woe is me.

[SEpatriot]

13. Ain't nothin' like an educated Negro

"Bill Cosby really does have a doctorate degree in education, an earned degree not Honorary."

WOW!! Do freepers have any brains whatsoever???

They really love it when anyone in the black community says anything critical of another black person or comments on problems in the black community in an openly critical way. O'Lielly was riffing on this nonsense yesterday on his radio blather-fest. They pick up on something to use to justify their thinly-veiled racism, and it's off to the races. (no pun intended)

[David__77]

15. I don't think this is too reactionary.

I think that Cosby is frustrated that not every Black person lives an exemplery life. Of course that's the case with every background. I mean, please keep in mind, the guy named all his children names started with "E"--for "excellence." He's frustrated. I think this was a tangent, which we are all prone to do at times.

[TO Kid]

23. His frustration goes beyond that

If it were simply a matter of not every black person excelling I think we could all live with that. The problem is not that some people fail, it's the culture that glorifies failure.

[Davis_X_Machina]

16. He gave substantially the same speech --

-- at Howard, ten years ago. Railed against "Snoop-Doggy Poop", and other aspects of popular culture he saw as dragging the community down.

Hardly a new tack for him.

[TO Kid]

24. Link? Context?

It sounds like the poster is paraphrasing, in a crude way, the attitude that a lot of white liberals have about race.