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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 07:10 AM
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Christ covered in shit, mocked by soldiers


bush's new crucifix. goddam you george bush
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 07:12 AM
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1. prisoners were forced to renounce allah, & thank jesus for their lives
i swear they said that on my t.v. machine. i need some whiskey in my coffee
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 07:31 AM
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16. they would have to do more than cover me in shit
Edited on Fri May-21-04 07:32 AM by jonnyblitz
to make me thank "jesus" for my life. assholes. :puke:
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 10:11 AM
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62. You know what strikes me as IRONICabout this pix..!!!!!!!!!!!!
Remember when they were all pissed at the artist Maplethorp about putting a crucifix in urine.

The same assholes think this is a Fraternity prank.


Think about it!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 04:34 PM
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72. It Was Andres Serrono !!!
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 07:45 AM
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19. More fuel for my Buddy Jesus fire
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 04:21 PM
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67. Anybody got a link for that
Is it in the CNN transcript?
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Alerter_ Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 07:13 AM
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2. "What you do to the least of these you do to me"
something like that
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 07:16 AM
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3. "That's all I can stands and I can't stands it no more!"
Popeye.

:freak:
dbt
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 07:58 AM
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26. Interestingly, Chimp's second favorite philosopher.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 07:21 AM
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4. Sadly, they probably would.
(Think they skipped that bit when they "revised" their copy of the book.)
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:21 AM
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50. I've been thinking a lot
about that quote in the last few days.
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harrison Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 07:22 AM
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5. What's everyone upset about? Nothing more than a fraternity
prank. You know, you want to be a real American, you gotta go through the initiation.
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 07:22 AM
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6. Sick, sick, sick
Pure evil.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 07:23 AM
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7. I don't know how any christian (I am one) can look at this and not
Want the current administration out of office. I hold bush responsible for this. He and his people created this kind of sick crusade atmosphere with their lies about WMD, Good Vrs Evil etc etc...
I have to find a way to bring this home to people who are still going to say "it's just a couple of bad apples".
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 07:52 AM
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22. Fundies aren't really christians, they are modern Pharisees
The Pharisees didn't have a problem with the romans torturing and killing people if it helped with their political goals.

The Pharisees went around trying to make sure that no one ever broke the jewish laws, which are so numerous no one could possibly keep track of them all. They would invent new rules-like requiring people to drape their mirrors on the sabbath, in case a woman saw a hair on her face and plucked it out, causing her to work on the sabbath. It's sort of like draping statues of nude females to prevent men from committing lust when seeing those cement breasts.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 08:44 AM
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34. Good solid God-fearing Christians I know have turned against Bush
because they caught on to the fact that he wasn't much of a Christian when they saw how the funds for social aid programs they relied on to help people simply evaporated. This scandal is cementing many of them SHUT against him.

Problem is they're not fond of Kerry either but I think they'll probably vote for him since we're not being given much of a choice.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:27 AM
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51. I want Bush* out also but it needs to go farther
We need to rid the airwaves of the sickness that has taken over America ~ Rush, Hannity, Savage, Boortz, Etc. Etc. Etc. They are as much if not more to blame for these atrocities than the Administration.
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Alerter_ Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:47 AM
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55. time to start protesting in front of "Churches" on Sunday mornings
Find the mega-churches with Pastors who have been helping justify the war. Bring these pictures and signs with relevant Bible verses in a protest against war and torture Sunday mornings. PM me.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:53 AM
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57. extremely practical idea.......i think it could work.....n/t
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Alerter_ Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:56 AM
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59. "Christians Against Torture" do Excorcisms of Satan-filled "Churches"
We can do at least two per Sunday morning, and two more in the evenings. First up, protest while people are going into services, second, while people are leaving. Repeat for evening services.

PM me, I'm serious.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 04:22 PM
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68. I think that's a great idea!
Edited on Fri May-21-04 04:23 PM by theHandpuppet
Here are some verses that would make great signs:

"Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy."

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called Sons (and Daughters) of God."

"For I was hungry and you gave me food,
I was thirsty and you gave me drink,
I was a stranger and you welcomed me,
I was naked and you clothed me,
I was sick and you visited me,
I was in prison and you came to me.'
Truly, I say to you,
as you did it to
one of the least of these,
my brethren,
you did it to me."

"Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also."

-- the words of Jesus Christ


"Thous shalt not kill" -- God
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 07:24 AM
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8. well, they did say there was worse stuff

figures THAT would be the first truthful thing to come out of bushco
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 07:24 AM
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9. Maybe Mel Gibson
should caste this fellow in the lead role for his next sequel?



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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:05 AM
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43. Catholics don't believe in the caste system.
.
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Alerter_ Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:59 AM
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60. has Mel Gibson denounced this war?
What's Mr. Holy doing now? Counting his loot?
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 10:18 AM
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64. His Bloodfest Movie has been outdone by the Murkins in Iraq
He's quite pissed and is coming out with a sequel that has more barbarity, blood and sex. The prison movies from Iraq are cutting into his profits.

CAn't wait for the next blood n guts movie from this dweeb.
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Sperk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 07:25 AM
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10. Anyone into the bible? Wasn't the Anti-Christ supposed to come
as a man of peace?
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 07:28 AM
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13. yes the anti christ (if you believe in the idea)
Is supposed to come as a man of God.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:01 AM
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42. Whew, that's a relief.
I'm not the Antichrist. Thank G... oops!
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Ironpost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 07:39 AM
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17. maybe just maybe
we can avoid Armageddon, because this Drunk of a pResident is not a man of god.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 08:59 AM
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41. Seems this Anti-Christ is waging the war of an
Anti-God.
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 07:25 AM
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11. I pity our troops that may be captured
in any wars over the next century. This will happen to them.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 07:26 AM
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12. There are no words
for the ghastliness of this.

This is beyond torture, worse than anything I could have imagined.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 07:29 AM
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14. This is a sick society
Now we see ourselves for what we are.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 07:30 AM
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15. This Is Just INSANE... Absolute INSANITY.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 08:11 AM
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29. Unfortunatly it's not insane...it's just mob behavior which we are all
capable of when we agree to see any group of people in black and white terms rather than as individuals.

Most of these people are as sane as you... they have just come to hate another group and are able to justify their actions based on their prejudice. They have been trained to be stupid and brutal and Bush is responsible.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 08:14 AM
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31. sane as me? hell i'm a raving lunatic & i'd never cover a man in shit
but you are correct, they have been trained to be brutal, and it is bush's fault. these soldiers, like about half of america, thinks that iraq attacked us on 9-11, so their wrath is understandable, but misplaced as hell.
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 07:43 AM
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18. QUESTON
What are those marks on the soldier's pants? Is that a design or blood or something else?
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 07:46 AM
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20. The guy covered in shit looks white
Was he a prisoner or a soldier?

Jeez these people are fucked up.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 08:10 AM
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28. Not all Iraqis are dark skinned
or maybe he wasn't Iraqi. Who knows?

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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:06 AM
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44. Maybe he is connected to the white chair?
.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:18 AM
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48. I've seen a lot of white chairs in my area, i'm getting paranoid
i keep one on my grassy knoll
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graham67 Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 07:48 AM
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21. It's just....
desert camoflage colors/design.
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 08:04 AM
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27. Thanks
It's a strange-looking pattern, IMO.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 07:55 AM
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23. I think part of what he is covered in is mud and it dried, leaving him
covered in dust. It is the dust making him look white.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 07:57 AM
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25. yesterday i read an account of a mans son being covered in mud
a 16 year old boy was terrorized to extract info from his father.
the boy was taken from his home at 4 am, taken away in a truck, and brought back covered in mud and humiliated and terrified.
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graham67 Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 04:40 PM
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73. Yeah, that's white dust on him....
look at the floor, its covered with it.
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 08:50 AM
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37. looks like normal desert cammo to me. nt.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 08:56 AM
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39. You want to try it on
for us?
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:33 AM
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52. i am confused, i am talking about what the soldier is wearing?
Edited on Fri May-21-04 09:34 AM by SheepyMcSheepster
i think you have me mistaken for someone who thinks all this bullshit is justified.

i was replying to this question:

"What are those marks on the soldier's pants? Is that a design or blood or something else?"
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 10:17 AM
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63. ok n/t
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 07:57 AM
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24. Al Hallaj, Sufi teacher & martyr


During one of {his} trances, he would utter Ana al-Haqq, meaning that "I am the Truth", which was taken to mean that he was claiming to be God....

This utterance would lead him to a long trial, and subsequent imprisonment for eleven years in a Baghdad jail. In the end, he would be tortured and publicly crucified by the Abbasid rulers for what they deemed as a heresy. Many accounts tell of Al-Hallaj's calm demeanor even while he was being tortured, and indicate that he forgave those who had executed him. He died on March 26, 922.

His writings are very important to only Sufis, but to all Muslims. His example is seen by some as one that should be emulated, especially his calm demeanor in the face of torture and his forgiving of his tormentors. Others continue to see him as a heretic.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Hallaj

Nothing is new--especially in the Land Between the Rivers.




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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:53 AM
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58. The picture of his crucifixion of Al Hallaj is not coming through...


But here's his icon, painted by Fr. William McNichols. No need for another horrific image today.

http://puffin.creighton.edu/jesuit/andre/index.html
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 08:13 AM
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30. Well, it explains what wasn't explained in this book...
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 04:58 PM
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75. Hahahaha! I saw somebody reading this book on a plane the other day
And they kept trying to hide the title! So of course I engaged them in conversation and started pointing out things he's done that would seem to be counter to any semblance of Christianity, etc. etc.

All in all a very pleasant plane ride!
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 08:38 AM
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32. kick for jesus
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 08:43 AM
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33. I'm beginning to think the Christian thing to do is
convert to Islam.

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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 08:49 AM
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36. Lol... Don't laugh but have been thinking the same thing myself
I've been realizing that there's not that much that divides Christians from Muslims theologically.
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Alerter_ Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:39 AM
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53. it's all about the Law, Tinoire
If you want to understand where the Muslims are coming from - and what we all have in common - read James. But never forget one thing about the Law - an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:44 AM
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54. that kind of talk will get you damned citizen
are you a terrorist insurgent?
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 08:47 AM
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35. Oh my FUCKING GOD!!!!! I can't take any more of this! I Can't! I Can't!
I Can't! I Can't! I Can't! I Can't! I Can't! I Can't! I Can't! I Can't!

I am becoming emotionally fucking disturbed by all of this. I am scared and embarassed, ashamed, sad - so FUCKING SAD!!!

I have to chill....I'm sorry - this is getting to be too much for me!
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 08:50 AM
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38. So sorry
:hug:

I'm with you I think... Needing a break from all of this because it's highly disturbing & emotionally scarring. Take a break from it; it'll be here when you get back.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 08:58 AM
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40. Thanks. I think I need to spend some time at the lounge. Or open a novel
and retreat for a hot minute!

:(
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:07 AM
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45. brace yourself citizen......there's more gruesome shit coming
we are only getting started. seriously, you have to steel yourself for what's coming in the next 6 months.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:18 AM
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49. You're right, you're right.....Sorry...I'll tough it out!!!
I just get sickened byt hese images. Sickened to my core. I will turn that repulsion into angry indignation - from anger to action.

MAN I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE RNC!!!!
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:11 AM
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46. You do that friend. I haven't looked at many of the images.
I just read the titles.

Something tells me Bushboy is trying to condition people in the US to just accept this kind of thing. :scared:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 04:18 PM
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66. Without doubt. And WE ARE NEXT.
Do not doubt THAT for a second.

If not under this Emperor, then surely under Caligula and Nero Bush, whoever that might wind up being.
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Alerter_ Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 04:42 PM
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74. yes we are
and these "techniques" designed to terrorize, insult, humiliate and kill Iraqis - based on racist "theories" from Neo-Cons - will be used against Americans. They will be specially designed for our culture and beliefs.
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Texican Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:13 AM
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47. They Are Too Stupid to Know
that Jesus is honored in Islam. He is a highly revered prophet. Oh well, there is nothing more christian than torture. History has sure shown that.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 09:52 AM
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56. Sick Sons Of Bitches. Shame on all.
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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 10:04 AM
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61. Forcing Iraqis to eat out of toilets
Hail to our MORAL LEADER!!!!

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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 04:25 PM
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70. Everything bowls
When I read about them forcing prisoners to eat out of toilets, I thought about how in the concentration camps, prisoners were given bowls that they used to eat out of, drink out of, bath out of, and at night, use the bathroom in. No, the Bush regime hasn't sunk to the level of mass genocide, yet, like the Nazis, but the tactics used on prisoners is reminicent of the Nazis. How can ANY American vote for Bush. These are so clearly war crimes!
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 04:14 PM
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65. kickit
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 04:24 PM
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69. notice how his hands are covered with shit, notice the fingerprints
on his buttocks. this man was forced to shit himself, forced to reach back and smear it all over himself. look at the markings. it's all over his head and it only goes where he himself could reach with his hands. we only see the back, i'm sure he has smears of his own shit on his face too.

fuck


fuck


fuck
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 04:27 PM
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71. Not On Google News
i guess they don't read the Washington Post.
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