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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:30 PM
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update from my friend in Iraq - Talking Points Memo
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2004_05_16.php#002962

....About the Army - Man, it hurts my heart to write this about an institution I dearly love but this army is completely dysfunctional, angry and is near losing its honor. We are back to the Army of 1968.

...Bush re-selection = Military Draft

Hide your sons and daughters.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:35 PM
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1. Unsurprising for Imperial Amerika
Still distressing, for those of us who loved the Old Republic, to see it in print in the words of one of our own.

Even if he is a Hessian.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:39 PM
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2. He has it wrong
this is not even the '68 force after Tet... this is far worst.

In '68 we at least had a chain of command, even if a dysfunctional one.

Now we do not even have a clear chain... that is why the army is having the problems it is having.

Oh and the draft is coming... sooner than people think
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:48 PM
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3.  A must read. What jumped out at me was his saying
that the kids over there are being told they are hunting Al Qaeda so they think they are getting revenge for 9/11 when they mistreat the prisoners.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 05:34 PM
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6. yes, to me that's the big untold story that nobody realizes
it's been bugging me for a WHILE. All these soldiers have been lied to, they've been told that the insurgents are terrorists, they've been told that Iraq was responsible for 9/11, they were told that the reason we invaded Iraq is to "get them back" for 9/11.

It's really sad the way they've been LIED TO EN MASSE.

It's absolutely tragic.

It reminds me of that old Hitchcock episode where the husband finds his wife has been raped, and as he's driving down the street, she points to a guy and says "him, him" and he gets out, hunts the guy down and ends up killing him in his rage. Then he gets back in the car, keeps driving, and the deranged woman starts pointing at every man on the street and saying "him him him"

It's THAT fucked up.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 05:36 PM
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7. Corollary: They Only Get Fox News
how is this legal?
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:49 PM
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4. Down and dirty
this is what is wrong and it goes straight to Bush

"I told a Journalist the other day that these kids here are being told that they are chasing Al Qaeda in the War on Terrorism so they think everyone at Abu Ghuraib had something to do with 9/11. So they were encouraged to make them pay. These kids thought they were going to be honored for hunting terrorists."
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 05:14 PM
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5. Hide your sons and daughters.
Then take to the streets screaming, "NO GO!"
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