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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 01:35 PM
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WMDs - Then vs Now:
Edited on Mon May-17-04 01:38 PM by Blue-Jay
Colin Powell, before the United Nations. February 5, 2003

"Our conservative estimate is that Iraq today has a stockpile of between 100 and 500 tons of chemical weapons agent. That is enough agent to fill 16,000 battlefield rockets."

So we've found, what?, TWO unexploded chemical warheads that have likely been lying around since GW1. The detonation of one gave resulted in a few soldiers getting headaches. That's "Mass Destruction"?! More of a weapon of slight annoyance, if you ask me.

WSAs!

Keep looking for those WSAs, BushCo! You only have 15,998 left to find by your own conservative (HA!) estimates.

If this was indeed to be held as the "October Surprise", as some here have suggested, it was a weak attempt indeed. (I have a suggestion for own own, entirely do-able Oct Surprise, but I'll save that for another thread)

Bottom Line: I predict that BushCo will end up with a jump in the next poll of 0%. Goose egg. Nada. Thanks for playing, try harder next time.





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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 01:38 PM
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1. Ah but this has played SO WELL
with the Right Wing.

They are... ACTUALLY SCARED and are going on and on and on, over what is technically a Weapon that violates the Chemical Weapons Protocol of 1923...

Oh and did I mention that Sarin and Mustard Gas is not hard to produce?

I still say this was a weak atempt at an October surprise and you are right... this will do ZILCH for the boy in the White House
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 02:19 PM
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2. Yeah. Sarin has been around since WWII.
Mustard gas since WWI. With a trip to the grocery store and the hardware store, anyone who knows how could make something quite similar to mustard gas. (Not something I'd recommend trying, however)

As far as playing well for the RWers; Who are these people, and how many are we really talking about?

If you consider the 42% of the "likely voters" who are currently supporting Chimpy, I'd guess the actual "Right Wing" is closer to 30%. Just a guess, though.

The fact is, this little find by the roadside isn't NEARLY enough for the people who have already defected to the Kerry camp to change their minds again.

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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 03:30 PM
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4. I accidentally mustard gassed a warehouse I worked at
mixed bleach & ammonia when I mopped the floor.

oops
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 03:24 PM
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3. Wouldn't it be just too ironic
if we found out that we had some ties to those warheads? It is possible that we helped Saddam secure them when he was on our side fighting against Iran.

I imagine that they would certainly have trouble spinning THAT one away.

Can't wait to hear your suggestion about our own do-able October surprise. :evilgrin:
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 03:43 PM
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6. Didn't Kay suggest this morning, that these were left over from the
Iran/Iraq war? Given that we know now we were simultaneously arming both sides... that could be a real scenario...
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 03:45 PM
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8. Oops. Yeah. Posted below. n/t
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 03:31 PM
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5. LOL great term: Weapons of Slight Annoyance
lol
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 03:44 PM
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7. More, according to Blix & Kay:
<snip>
Two former weapons inspectors — Hans Blix and David Kay — said the shell was likely a stray weapon that had been scavenged by militants and did not signify that Iraq had large stockpiles of such weapons.

Kimmitt said he believed that insurgents who planted the explosive didn't know it contained the nerve agent.

Sarin-type agents produced by Iraq were largely of low quality and degraded shortly after production, U.N. inspectors said in a March 2003 report. They said it was unlikely that agents produced in the 1980s would still work today.

U.S. troops have announced the discovery of other chemical weapons before, only to see them disproved by later tests. A dozen chemical shells were also found by U.N. inspectors before the war; they had been tagged for destruction in the 1990s but somehow were not destroyed.

More: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&u=/ap/20040517/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_sarin_10&printer=1

To quote Officer Barbrady: "Move along folks. Nothing to see here."

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MurrayDelph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:28 PM
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9. This just in
Inspectors working for the Bush administration have found six packages, each containing a can of baked beans and a BIC lighter.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:29 PM
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10. We've all been fooled!
They found some Weapons of Ass Destruction.

/had to say it.

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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:31 PM
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11. POST OF THE WEEK.
You get my vote.

:-)
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