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clyrc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:51 AM
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Camp Redemption!?!?
Edited on Mon May-17-04 04:56 AM by clyrc
I just heard that Abu Ghraib is being renamed Camp Redemption. That seems totally innappropriate to me.
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:54 AM
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1. how about freedom prison
Words by Bob Marley

Old pirates yes they rob I
Sold I to the merchant ships
Minutes after they took I from the
Bottom less pit
But my hand was made strong
By the hand of the almighty
We forward in this generation triumphantly
All I ever had is songs of freedom
Won't you help to sing these songs of freedom
Cause all I ever had redemption songs, redemption songs

Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery
None but ourselves can free our minds
Have no fear for atomic energy
Cause none of them can stop the time
How long shall they kill our prophets
While we stand aside and look
Some say it's just a part of it
We've got to fulfill the book

Won't you help to sing, these songs of freedom
Cause all I ever had, redemption songs, redemption songs, redemption songs

Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery
None but ourselves can free our minds
Have no fear for atomic energy
Cause none of them can stop the time
How long shall they kill our prophets
While we stand aside and look
Yes some say it's just part of it
We've got to fulfill the book

Won't you help to sing, these songs of freedom
Cause all I ever had, redemption songs
All I ever had, redemption songs
These songs of freedom, songs of freedom

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clyrc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 04:59 AM
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2. My sister is a Bob Marley fan, so I've heard that song
many times. Never thought of it in connection with this war, though.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 05:02 AM
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3. "That seems totally innappropriate to me.". . .
It seems totally inappropriate because it is totally inappropriate.
Not only is the term "Camp" reminiscent of Nazi Germany, but "Redemption" is a very Christian term.

How to win the hearts and minds. . .not.

They should have leveled the place a year ago.
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clyrc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 05:09 AM
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4. I had a very strong reaction against the name
It seems absurd, when this is a very serious issue.
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politicat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 05:13 AM
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5. Oh, that's bright! Let's just alienate the Muslim population some MORE!!!
Are they complete idiots? (don't answer that.)

Who is being redeemed? From what? Three guesses and the first two - The US Military from their own hubris and the Prisoners of War from American Military sadists - don't count.

No, it's those poor misguided "EyeRackies from their heathen misunderestistandiments."

Tip #25784-A for the USJCoS: Hire a marketing and branding expert. Someone who knows the product you're selling, and the market. Stop doing stichomancy to get your code names!!

Politicat


(Please be aware that I respect every religious person and belief equally - and give them total freedom to do as they please as long as I am not subjected to their practices. I do not consider any religious group to be inferior to another.)
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clyrc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 06:21 AM
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6. Link to Story
...Last week, it was somewhat surprisingly announced that Gen Miller would take charge of the reform of Abu Ghraib . On Friday, 293 detainees were released, as part of an accelerated processing period announced after the scandal broke. A further 500 are to be freed on May 21, reducing inmates to Gen Miller's new target of 3,000.

Another of Gen Miller's opening moves was to announce that a section of Abu Ghraib was now to be called Camp Redemption, as guards and inmates attempt to put the past behind them.

For Mr Nance, it may be too late. "I love my country and the US military and it pains me to see it dishonoured like this. I didn't spend 20 years of my life fighting to defend American values just to see those values thrown out like this," he said.

"The Geneva Convention matters because there can be no double standards. Some of what we've heard about here is not just softening up, it's torture. And in future, the same methods could be used against our troops."...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/05/16/wtort116.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/05/16/ixnewstop.html
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 06:27 AM
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7. Well, the HURRAH Network will keep us
informed.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-04 07:35 AM
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8. No doubt they painted the walls pink and offer flowers in every cell
:puke:
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