Wes Clark voted for Reagan. Do we write HIM off, too?

[Paragon]

I mean, just like McCain, he could be a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

:eyes:

[aquart]

1. Wes Clarke has declared himself a Democrat. Has McCain?

Get back to me.

[Paragon]

2. All or nothing.

It's the Democratic way! :eyes:

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

14. Yes. When it comes to the Executive Office, all or nothing.

[freetobegay]

17. well

:eyes:

[krkaufman]

25. You seem to be forgetting...

... that a majority of the American public voted for Reagan, as well. You also seem to be forgetting that Joe Lieberman is a Democrat; or are you suggesting that Lieberman would be a better choice than Clark simply because of Joementum's greater number of years as a registered Democrat? Would you also swear off the commentary and support of Arianna Huffington?

Wes Clark is one of a number of people who would be good choices for the VP spot. And, IMO, Clark's biography -- and especially his transition -- make him an ideal candidate.

Paraphrasing Wes Clark from his primary campaign... he'd "~ welcome those who voted for Nixon, or Reagan... and wouldn't even ask them to apologize. ~"

[amazona]

3. people change, learn, and grow

There is no doubt in my mind that Clark has grown considerably since the Reagan days.

[Paragon]

4. Yes, they do.

But we create enemies of good people like McCain because he still has a (R) after his name?

[KittyWampus]

10. YOU Are The One Saying McCain Is An Enemy- Noone Else

most of us are acknowledging McCain is a REPUBLICAN and Bush enabler... and an anti-choice one at that.

And [B[WHY THE HELL DO WE NEED ANOTHER THREAD ABOUT MCCAIN FOR VP?

[ibegurpard]

15. Jesus fucking H. CHRIST!

Why is it creating an ENEMY of McCain to adamantly refuse to consider the possibility of him as a VP candidate? When he is TO THIS DAY stating he is working for Bush's re-election?
I would've been MUCH more comfortable with the prospect of a McCain presidency than the criminal we ended up with and I would not object IN THE LEAST to Democratic politicians being willing to work across the aisle with politicians like McCain. But as long as people like George Bush, Tom Delay and Bill Frist call the shots in the party and "moderates" like McCain go along then they will NEVER have my trust. If McCain wants to lead an insurrection in the Republican Party then he will have my full support.

[Paragon]

16. Well...

...if either of these last two posts were said to McCain's face, I'm sure he wouldn't think you were trying to create enemies.

:eyes:

[The Shadow]

5. I Voted For Reagan Too.

For his first term. Carter was an awful president (great humanitarian, though, among other admirable qualities).
By the middle of Reagan's first term, I realized what a dickhead he really was and have not voted repug since and never will.
Do you write me off too?

[mitchtv]

7. Mc Cain is anti choice, Wes is not

I write off all anti choice advocates . D or R

[Paragon]

9. *gasp*

You FREEPER!!!!!!!!

;-)

Glad to have you, regardless of your voting record -- just like Wes Clark.

[maggrwaggr]

6. Did I miss something? Did McCain join the Dems?

didn't think so

[Paragon]

12. That's kinda inadvertantly funny...

...considering your sig line.

[Alerter_]

8. Clark should answer questions about Torture at School of the Americas

Didn't they declassify training manuals from the 1980s and the 1960 teaching torture tactics? Since Clark has been involved with the School of the Americas or WHISC or whatever they call it now, and because of his storied military career, he should really take a lead in denouncing torture and respect for the Geneva Conventions.

[patrick g]

11. here's my .02

no. that was a different time, different place mate . . ..

[Deja Q]

13. Yes. We need to be free from everything that the Progenitor influenced

Reagan started it all. Everything and everybody around him is something/somebody I would instantly suspect.

Clarkbar recently said something dumb about Iraq. Something along the lines of "kill or be killed". It's in the DU archives somewhere, but it quickly got buried...

I could dig up a truckload of statistics regarding the treatment of workers (wages, workload, et al) and how corporations have been getting it much better ever since that geezer took office, but some people would still think there's nothing wrong... but it is wrong. Mega-wrong. Greed is wrong. Or do we ignore Biblical passages the moment they become inconvenient? (which is human nature. We all do in some form or another. I'm just outraged that the greedy go after the homosexuals, and nobody goes after the greedy. There's far more said against the greedy than there is against the homosexuals.)

[QC]

20. Well over half the electorate voted for Reagan in 84.

Should we tell them to stay home or support Bush rather than sully us with their tainted votes?

[napi21]

18. No, we shouldn't write him off for that, but for being too laid back.

A running mate should compliment the candidate. Fill in the places where the candidate falls short.

Wes is a good guy, but he just doesn't energize the public. Neither does Kerry.

That's not a slam to either guy, just the fact.

It's a shame that most people vote on perceived personality, but they do. I said perceived because I doubt most Shrub supporters really know or understand the guy. But you keep hearing stuff like, "a guy you'd just want to have a beer with", or "a good family man", or "he's an honorable religious man".

Don't you realize that NONE of thes things has anything to do with his policies, or how he's handled the war or the economy?

Most people don't seem to care about that!

I think Kerry needs someone who can really energize the people!

To me, that looks like Edwards or Richardson.

Both are from different parts of the country and offset the "Bush is who I want to have a beer with idea".

[ibegurpard]

19. Did Wes Clark say just the other day

that he plans to continue working to get Bush re-elected? Is he the co-chair of the Bush re-election campaign for Arkansas (as McCain is for Arizona)? Nope. Next.

[mzmolly]

24. Stop with the common sense!

:P

[boxster]

21. My guess is that you already have.

As have a significant number of other DUers.

Unless, of course, you're being sarcastic.

The only presidency that McCain is going to be a heartbeat away from is the Bush-for-reelection campaign chairmanship in AZ. He has a better chance of being elected POTUS himself in 2004 than he does in being the Democratic VP nominee.

Nice thinly-veiled flamebait thread, by the way.

Actually, upon further reflection, it's not all that thinly-veiled....

[stepahead]

22. He makes good choices.

He made the right choice - he IS a smart man. Now he would also be a smart VP.

[mzmolly]

23. Actually I did not support Clark because of his past. But, he is

a Democrat and is pro-choice and adheres to the same political values I do *today*

John McCain does NOT share my political values so I do not support him for VP.

[arwalden]

26. I Voted For Reagan Too... TWICE.

[nonconformist]

27. There is a world of difference between Clark and McCain

Look, I like McCain well enough. I think the world would be better off if more Repugs were like McCain.

But that doesn't make him a Democrat. So why on earth would anyone want him on a DEM ticket??

McCain has been out there stumping for Bush. He votes with Bush 90% of the time. How anyone thinks this will help Kerry's campaign is beyond me, especially since Kerry's vote for the IWR is the big Repug talking point of the election.

[Malikshah]

28. McCain caved

He exposed his throat and took it with a smile from Rove and Co.

He has repeatedly caved to the regime.

End of story

[Vickers]

29. Holy shit, he voted for a Republican TWENTY YEARS AGO?!?!?!?!

Oh wait, so did I.

[Darranar]

30. Clark is a democrat. Clark supports Kerry...

I'm no fan of his, but I'd prefer him to McCain.

[mitchum]

31. Please stop this McCain as VP bullshit