If McCain is VP choice could we start taking back the Congress immediately

[billbuckhead]

Why couldn't liberal Republicans start caucausing with the Dems? Could we have a truce with a certain amount of house Republicans to get a working majority? Go out and campaign with each other against Bush, like Zell Miller does to us? Let's go for a quick knockout blow against these snuff film making neocon crooks, traitors and torturers. I think this would be the best "go long" strategy, why not recover as much of the government immediately as possible before any more dishonor comes to our nation.

[Brian_Expat]

1. Why sell out and nominate McCain. . .

. . . when true liberal ideas are in ascendancy?

(Edited to fix spelling error)

[teryang]

2. If McCain is on the ticket

I'll vote for Nader.

[billbuckhead]

8. McCain will help us win back a working majority in Congress

The Presidency is in the bag for Kerry, small (d) dems need to be aggressive and go after as much of the government as possible. The BFEE and the Tom DeLay regime needs to routed and destroyed forever. Thousands of Bush misadministration crooks and their "contractor" cronies will have to be put on trial. Voting machines and voting processes will need to be re examined. It would be better if many of these things were done bipartisan.

[BillZBubb]

9. Voting for Nader would be foolish.

Why not just vote for Bush*, since that'd be the ultimate result of your vote if there are many like you? Cut out the middle man.

And let me get this straight, you'd be willing to risk having Bush*/Cheney elected by wasting your vote on Nader, rather than having McCain as VP in a Kerry presidency????

God help us all!

[teryang]

14. Voting for McCain?

You've got to be kidding!

[TankLV]

19. If McCain is on the ticket, I will "reserve" my vote.

I will NOT vote for a repuke or a repuke-lite ticket. Never.

I will just withold my vote. Period.

We WILL have bush* if we vote for McCain on the Kerry ticket. Dream on if you think it will be any different.

Give us a reason to vote FOR something!

I will vote for Kerry - and I think he is pretty good - not great by any streth of the imagination - just good.

With McCain on the ticket - it would finally be my last straw.

[guajira]

34. Here too. Why should Dems split out ticket with a Repuke??

Who is the dumb-ass who came up with this idiot idea in the first place?? Was it Hannity, O'Reilly or Limbaugh??

[drfemoe]

3. "we"?

I'm a life long Independent. I think it should be obvious to everyone by now that Party affiliation means NOTHING.

I am now, for the first time in my long life (I have been voting for more than 30 years), looking for a Party.
And I can guaran-damn-tee you, it won't be "D" or "R".

[PDittie]

4. McCain won't be the nominee. Period.

[mvd]

32. How is McCain going to be Kerry's VP candidate when..

he supports the other guy? I agree. :shrug:

[onecitizen]

5. I was already about to bust a vessel.......

over this. I swear if Kerry continues this talk of adding a Repuke to his ticket or his cabinet, I will leave the Dem. party and go independent. How can we expect people to trust us on issues of security if our own nominee apparently doesn't? Does he really think, there's not one Dem who could do the job? That he would betray us and go with the Repukes? Talk about a vote of no confidence. And then we have Biden going right along with it. And of course Tim too. Sheeeeesh. I really do not like McCain. He is a Repuke you guys.

[Thrill]

6. Mccain is the worst thing that could happen

Especially if there is an even Senate

[Catch22Dem]

11. That's silly

Almost every modern president has mixed up his cabinet. Hell, even Bush has dems in his cabinet.

[PDittie]

15. It makes sense for this buzz to continue , though...

See this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1610079

First of all, there is no chance of it happening. McCain won't do it. Period.

But it gives a great appearance, that being that Kerry is actually The Great Uniter Bush claims to want to be.

It makes centrists, moderates, and independents say, Whoa!

And it has the extended benefit of annoying every single Republican who gets asked about it, McCain included. ;)

[Media_Lies_Daily]

17. You need to take a look at Bill Clinton's cabinet before you...

...go off half-baked. You need to take a step back and reconsider your thoughts, IMHO.

Do you remember William Cohen? He was a Republican and the Secretary of Defense under Clinton from 1997-2001. IMHO, he did a very good job of balancing the military needs with the economic realities of the balanced budget required by law. Politics never entered into Cohen's considerations when he was involved in making decisions about the nation's defense.

<http://www.potus.com/wjclinton.html>

Now, as far as a Republican being chosen by Kerry as a VP candidate, I don't think that will ever happen. If something happens to Kerry, the Democratic Party is not going to want to turn over the administration to a Republican, that's for sure. Additionally, Kerry has NEVER mentioned the possibility of McCain for VP...but I believe he is considering McCain for Secretary of defense. McCain would make a good Secretary of Defense, IMHO.

[onecitizen]

22. Thanks for your thoughts and opinions........

I do know who Cohen is. Very well aware. And yes, he did a great job at his post and is still contributing. I may be half-baked but I still can have my opinion. Do I think it would really ever happen? No, I don't think so. But it still irritates me that the names that are being mentioned the most it seems, have an "R" after them.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

26. I apologize for the "half-baked" comment...I knew I should have...

...reviewed my post before I submitted it.

[onecitizen]

39. That's OK........

I'm sure that's not the worse thing ever said about me. hehe:wow:

[DemCam]

37. Why oh why this talk of McCain?

I am as close to center as you can get and still be a Democrat on some issues...but I just don't get why there are so many who appear to like John McCain as VP.

If people thought Wes Clark was a Republican, fer f*#k's sek...we know John McCain is Republican.

Just because he "seems" reasonable from time to time doesn't mean he's not a complete loose cannon.

Just look at the mayhem William Cohen caused in Clinton's cabinet. Why the hell do we think having a Republican as VP would serve us at all? What about breaking tie votes in the Senate, fer gawd's sek?

And a million other things. Let's give it a rest. It makes me near stark ravin' to even entertain the idea.

We are becoming as delusional as they are...or as desperate?

[lastknowngood]

7. The Republican party already has the congress

n/t

[Catch22Dem]

10. I have no interest in McCain as VP

I respect a lot of the things McCain has done for this country. Just as I respected Dole's service, but their conservative ideology just doesn't bode well with me. I can like McCain and Dole, but I want ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with them politically.

No, I will not accept a Kerry/McCain ticket.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

12. Give it a rest. Kerry WILL choose a Democrat as his VP. End of story.

[drfemoe]

13. good

then we WILL have a mixed ticket after all.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

18. Interesting. The GOP is trying to paint Kerry as a tax and spend...

...Massachusetts liberal while some Democrats, like yourself apparently, are treating him like a Republican. Amazing.

Here's the bottom-line...for whom are you going to vote in November?

[drfemoe]

21. I'm not

a "Democrat".. life long Independent.

Whom I vote for is none of your concern. Private ballots, and all...

[Media_Lies_Daily]

27. Who you vote for is most definitely my concern whether you want...

...to keep that secret or not.

The fact that you're not willing to state for whom you're willing to vote speaks volumes.

[Zorra]

16. Kerry will lose the election by a landslide if he chooses McCain for VP.

And the Green party would soon rival the Democratic Party in membership.

Nobody listens to Zell Miller. Who takes the word of a traitor?

[JCMach1]

20. I don't think he would

Bush is so evil, I would accept a unity ticket

[Zorra]

28. 25% of the respondents in this thread

have indicated that McCain on the ticket is unacceptable and will not vote for Kerry under these circumstances.

Because DUers are generally far more informed than the average voter, I would not consider this to be representative of the general population.

But I would guess that if Kerry chose McCain as a running mate, he would lose between 7 and 10 percent of the voters nationwide who have already decided to vote for him.

[maggrwaggr]

23. Is it me who's stupid? Last I checked McCain's a Republican

No wait. It's not me who's stupid

[ibegurpard]

24. I would work against a ticket with a Republican as vice-president

eom

[HFishbine]

25. Why

Why would we want a person on the Dem tickets who has said repeatedly that he supports the "reelection" and agenda of George W. Bush?

[JHBowden]

29. Even *I* have my limits.

I've bashed disgruntled Dean supporters and Naderites for attacking Kerry alongside Bush, but having a Demopublican ticket indeed is a kick in the nuts, even for me.

[dsc]

30. Oh so your line

which evidenlty is McCain is rational and great. But their line, whatever it was is worthy of bashing. I get it.

[JHBowden]

31. what the hell are you talking about?

I despise McCain. The guy is liberal on about 10% of the issues. Even the loathed Lieberman is liberal on at least 60-70% of the issues.

While Kerry certainly is very liberal and has a record to back it up, McCain is very conservative and worthy of derision.

[yorgatron]

33. McCain is a WHORE!!!

if he had ANY kind of credibility he'd have been fighting shrubco tooth and nail this whole time,especially cosidering the SCREW JOB he got from them.instead he SHILLS form them,unFUCKINGbelievable!!!

[dsc]

36. I happen to agree with you

but apparently you aren't really ABB but instead just draw your line in a different place than those you criticise.

[nomaco-10]

35. McCain will not accept under any circumstances.....

he was just taunting bush* there for awhile. The very fact that John Kerry would even consider him is the most troubling fact about the whole fiasco. Maybe he could pick Lieberman for VP, Zell Miller for Sec of State and Tom Delay to head Homeland Security, maybe he could even get John Warner for Sec of Defense.
John Kerry has alienated a large part of the party and he may have to pay for it come November, we'll see.

[Malva Zebrina]

40. right and after Kerry wins, they will all write books praising Bush

after Bush goes--I want him arrested and tried for his crimes. I don't want someone leading who loves Bush to the point where he is willing to love Bush more than his wife or family.

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