Gen. Janis Karpinski's priest rats her out

[mopaul]

just saw it on msnbc. karpinski sent regular emails to her priest from the prison in iraq. she spoke of the scandal and said that some of those under her command did terrible things and they would be punished, and that it was completely out of her hands.

the priest, thinking he was helping karpinski's case, published some of the emails in the local paper.

she should have talked to him in the confessional booth i think.

[blm]

1. If she told him it was completely out of her hands, doesn't that bolster

her argument that MI was in charge and NOT her?

[mopaul]

3. who knows? i sure don't

somebody, somewhere, is lying. it's called cover your ass.
but her priest i think should've kept private emails to himself.
i'd like to see some of those emails. aren't they now evidence?

[Beaker]

10. the way it works in the BFEE-

if you're caught with "blood on your hands", you're guilty.
if there's evidence that proves your involvement, you're guilty.
the guilt only goes as high up the chain of command as the physical evidence.**
if there's no evidence as to your involvement, you get the benefit of the doubt and you get a pass.**


** -does not apply to women or minorities in command positions.

[Trajan]

18. From what I heard about these emails ...

They were mildly exculpatory ....

[Frances]

2. I think the emails help her case

I don't think she would have said that it was completely out of her hands if that had not been true. She has been saying this all along.

Under Rumsfeld, the ordinary chain of command was compromised. That's why people are saying that Rumsfeld is responsible. I am one of those people. My husband who was in the Navy 13 years is another.

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. Add me, 10 years in an organizatin

with a clear chain of command, and my husband a Navy Vet, just retired from the USN... after 20 years

[PeaceProgProsp]

4. He's probably compelled to share evidence of crime.

I'm not sure how the priest-penitent privilege works, but I think all privileged relationships don't cover evidence of criminal activity.

[ArkDem]

19. A priest would be excommunicated if he revealed any

information from a confession.

[Bill McBlueState]

5. Do we know which paper it was?

n/t

[MarianJack]

6. Didn't See the E-mails,...

... but I LOVE your new sig line, mopaul!

[w13rd0]

7. Will he deny her communion?

Because that's what's REALLY important, ya know?

Yes, this bolsters her case. And it's what we've been saying. Bush first gave the shaft to these reservists by sending them overseas with little training on year+ tours. Now he's attempting to double shaft them by dropping them in a hole for executing orders HIS ADMINISTRATION passed down.

Hey Bush, Rush, and all the rest of you "monied losers": quit lying, ya criminal bastards.

[madrchsod]

8. the military is fed up with bush and his crew.

i thought that before and during the war that the professional army knew how the German generals thought..after reading the buzzflash article by Sid Blumenthal ,i find out that maybe they really do...interesting article that should be on the front page of the usa`s papers but as usual you have to go overseas to find out what is really happening here-

[redqueen]

13. "America's military coup"

That is a great article.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1215613,00.html
(snip)

Six National Guard soldiers from a West Virginia unit who treated Abu Ghraib as a playpen of pornographic torture have been designated as scapegoats. Will the show trials of these working-class antiheroes put an end to any inquiries about the chain of command? In an extraordinary editorial, the Army Times, which had not previously ventured into such controversy, declared that "the folks in the Pentagon are talking about the wrong morons ... This was not just a failure of leadership at the local command level. This was a failure that ran straight to the top. Accountabilty here is essential - even if that means relieving leaders from duty in a time of war."

William Odom, a retired general and former member of the National Security Council who is now at the Hudson Institute, a conservative thinktank, reflects a wide swath of opinion in the upper ranks of the military. "It was never in our interest to go into Iraq," he told me. It is a "diversion" from the war on terrorism; the rationale for the Iraq war (finding WMD) is "phoney"; the US army is overstretched and being driven "into the ground"; and the prospect of building a democracy is "zero". In Iraqi politics, he says, "legitimacy is going to be tied to expelling us. Wisdom in military affairs dictates withdrawal in this situation. We can't afford to fail, that's mindless. The issue is how we stop failing more. I am arguing a strategic decision."

(snip)

In 1992, General Colin Powell, chairman of the joint chiefs, awarded the prize for his strategy essay competition at the National Defence University to Lieutenant Colonel Charles Dunlap for The Origins of the American Military Coup of 2012. His cautionary tale imagined an incapable civilian government creating a vacuum that drew a competent military into a coup disastrous for democracy. The military, of course, is bound to uphold the constitution. But Dunlap wrote: "The catastrophe that occurred on our watch took place because we failed to speak out against policies we knew were wrong. It's too late for me to do any more. But it's not for you."

The Origins of the American Military Coup of 2012 is today circulating among top US military strategists.

(all emphasis added)

[Blue-Jay]

9. Published? Is there a link anywhere?

I'd be very interested in learning more about this.

[TacticalPeek]

12. Link, in Editorials.

Sidney Blumenthal: "...the US officer corps has turned on the government"

[bain_sidhe]

14. Here ya go...

http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usawc/Parameters/1992/dunlap.htm

Haven't read the whole thing myself yet, but it's interesting so far. Saved it to my hard drive in case it disappears.

**Edit... oops, sorry, I thought you wanted a link to the "Military Coup in 2012" paper... My bad. (But it's still interesting)**

[bain_sidhe]

15. Also interesting...

Apparently, the author is now a Brigadier General:

http://www.af.mil/bios/bio.asp?bioID=5293

[bain_sidhe]

16. And Freepers hate him!

Just thought I'd mention it, since Google turned it up...

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39cba85669fb.htm

[bobthedrummer]

11. How did the mercenaries employed by the Rumsfeld/Myers DoD

in the administration of George W. Bush aka The War President and employees of privately held PMC's get the authority to "influence" US military police to commit crimes that have actually helped the enemies of America by increasing anti-Americanism?

Here are some factual links to mercenaries awarded contracts in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Total Contract Award To Mercenaries
http://www.publicintegrity.org/wow/resources.aspx?act=total

Mercenary Political Contributions
http://www.publicintegrity.org/wow/resources.aspx?act=contrib

NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW.

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. Thanks to Blumenthal for the warning

this is circulating in the upper levels... need I need to translate what this means?

Oh and one more thing... what Blumenthal describes is the classic recipee for an old fashioned Latin American Coup