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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 11:46 PM
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Here's my Berg conspiracy theory
Edited on Fri May-14-04 12:46 AM by Must_B_Free
My belief is that in the same way the Bush administration has tarnished and endangered us all, as Americans, Likud has tarnished and endanger all Jews. In both cases a good majority of the people have been cast by the actions of a few zealots.

My theory is that, as a reaction, there is a loose Anti-Likud of which Michael and Nick Berg were members. I don't think that a child raised by a humanist like Michael Berg would have a son who would be a Bush supporter. (the other way around, right wing parents, left wing children, yes, but I don't think it works both ways)

Perhaps Nick Berg was feining being a Republican to gain access as an infiltrator. The Prometheus Towers company is legitimate, but also used as a front, just like the Israeli Movers.

I think Nick Berg was taking pictures of the Abu Ghaird prison yard from the top of the towers with a telephoto lens. He was discovered and dealt with. Then they snuffed him and at the same time used him to diffuse the prison torture scandal. I don't think heever was let go, which is why he appears to still have the orange jump suit on.

The fat man who was the translator, #2 in the picture below, the only arabic speaker is also the "reader" in the frame grab from the video. His belly excusion catches the same lighting.



#7 is the left most - leans on his own frame
#5 is second to left - same narrow sloped shoulders, tallest, stands straight
#1 is second to right - ??? could be anyone
#4 is rightmost - same broad shoulders - looks around a lot
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tcfrogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 11:51 PM
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1. interesting theory
...I just don't know what to believe anymore
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 11:53 PM
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2. it's pure speculation
I'm sorry but that's they way I see it...:shrug:
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 11:54 PM
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3. ummmmm interesting theory but #1 is a MP who is
up on courtmartial charges. The photo was released by his lawyer. They wouldn't use a regular MP for a black ops/MI covert action.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 11:54 PM
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4. Uh...
Make that #2 right most ;)

I'm still digesting a lot of today's news but you know that from day 1, I said that no Islamic terrorist did this.

Too many incongruities and then when I finally saw the video, it was a farce with nothing Halal about the beheading and a bunch of bad-postured milk-fed "frat-boys" fidgeting, American-style, all over the place and then trying to imitate a Halal beheading but absolutely incapable of doing it as they sawed back and forth.

Still looking at all the 'available' photos trying to see all the clues you mentioned.

Peace, out.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:02 AM
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7.  #2 is the only arabic speaker
so he is the reader in the middle.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:23 AM
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10. Ok
I was just looking at the guts ;) but I guess both could work if these are the same guys.

We need the other photos damn it
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KC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:02 AM
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8. What I'd
like to know is why, someone supposedly fluent in Arabic, would need to have a short speech on paper to read?

KC
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:18 AM
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9. well, they were making a video
he would have been nervous and didn't want to mess it up. It is typical in a one shot scenario of making a statement that you would write it down and read it.
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KC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:29 AM
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11. Yeah,
I guess you're right. :)

KC
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 01:57 AM
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16. Body Language of the "Terrorists" seemed too familiar...
I have traveled extensively and have lived over seas 1/2 my life. One thing I have learned over the years are that there are certain body language styles and one thing that struck me when I watched this video (and ironically, I watched it before I started reading the various threads on the subject) was that I watched the body language. It seemed odd to me the way they kept fidgeting with their head wear. It would seem to me that anyone of a "Beduin" culture or where head dress is worn often, that they would fidget so much if it were "being worn" properly or that they were used to it. I'd love to have someone from the Middle East who knows how the men where their scarves to tell me if they are being worn typically. The other was the shifting back and forth with the legs and stance - I don't know why, but I know of no European man that stands there, but I do feel its a very "American" body language that came across, particularly from the person on the far right...

I think that you saw that too? Anybody out in DU that knows about the Iraqi/Muslim/Arabic body language or head dress wearing?
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Mick Knox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-04 11:58 PM
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5. Its as good as all the others I must say
:eyes:
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nomaco-10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:01 AM
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6. I think your theory is very plausible.....
in fact, one of the more plausible and reasonable theories I've read to date.

I know many of us our taking alot of flack for being tin foilers, but I think this story deserves a very close look. The CIA was not very tidy this time. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out something is very rotten about the reports of the execution of Nick Berg. There's no way I'm accepting the Pentagon version of events.

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KC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:33 AM
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12. I don't
know why, but in photo #2.. the one on the left really looks like a woman to me.


KC
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:44 AM
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14. it's because
he has a slender figure, not a wide "ox man" figure.
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heidler Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 12:37 AM
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13. The only good that come from all of this is Bush looses big time in Nov.
It seems to me that our leaders are bigger lier's then anybody.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 01:26 AM
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15. yeah well I think the Mexican UFOs did it
and I have just as much evidence as you do.

Not to be harsh, but it's pure speculation.

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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-04 02:18 AM
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17. Two communists gave birth to David Horowitz.
So it is possible for lefties to have reactionary children.
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