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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-04 08:53 PM Original message |
The UN Bombing, Conspiracy Theorizing, and the Failure of Perspective |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-04 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. Great post on the details..on the emotional aspects |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-04 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
2. You make great points but the problem I have is with the way the |
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TomNickell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-04 09:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Not a smart move, Solomon... |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-04 09:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I agree here |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 09:04 AM Response to Reply #5 |
24. Ok Ok. All the shit this administration has done are mere |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 11:43 AM Response to Reply #24 |
40. Where you get the idea |
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TomNickell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-04 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
3. "Hobbyists" |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-04 11:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. For the record: |
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DemonFighterLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-04 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
6. Excuse this hobbyist |
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goodhue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-04 09:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. hear, hear! |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-04 09:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I will admit that there are some bizarre facts |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-04 09:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. If you can't see how the UN bombing was an |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-04 10:54 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. BushCo is muscle, markses, not Machiavelli. |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-04 11:37 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. I suppose if you start from a particular axiom |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 12:11 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Look it's as simple as this. |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 12:38 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Even if I were to accept your major premise |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 12:57 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Who is going to sell whoever is fighting their arms and mercenaries? |
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stickdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-04 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
10. Bush's DISAPPROVAL Rating Had Just Hit a Record High! |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-04 10:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. My point, once again |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-04 11:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. He's implying Bush whacked out de Mello |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-04 11:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Oh, I understood the implication |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 02:46 PM Response to Reply #15 |
48. Not exactly your ideal situation |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 02:49 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. No blame a-tall |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
20. Is it valid to lump the UN and Red Cross bombings together? |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 08:43 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Well, right |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 09:28 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Well, Bush is also bankrupting the american economy too, is he not? |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 09:35 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. I make absolutely NO such assumption |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 10:13 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. I know nothing about your previous posts. I know nothing about |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 10:18 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. You say that I assume X |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 11:04 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. I'll say it again in case you missed it the first time. You made some |
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9215 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
22. Wolfowitz stated that UN bombing benefited |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 09:38 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Now Wolfowitz is a reliable source?!? |
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9215 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 10:02 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. This needs closer examination. |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 10:14 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. They either believed it, or it was the desperate spin |
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9215 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 10:49 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. That's why I compared his |
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9215 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 10:54 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Here is a link to Spain bombing: |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 11:44 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. The point being? |
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9215 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 11:56 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Back to your original question: "Qui Bono"? |
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9215 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 12:03 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. And, I might add, |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 12:14 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. That link says nothing of the kind, as I read it |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 12:05 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. And again |
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9215 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 01:42 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. article doesn't specify Wolfy only a "senior adviser. nt |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 01:54 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Whatever |
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9215 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 03:52 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Well, these guys are great believers in Strauss |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 04:36 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. That's correct |
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9215 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 01:01 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Goddamn youu are so fucking smart, you forget to think |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
23. Berg's special case muddies the waters |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
31. Qui Bono? |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
33. I don't believe the Berg video is what it is purported to be |
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gandalf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
35. "this simple, if brilliant, function". That's only one interpretation |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 11:36 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Agreed |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-04 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
51. Excellent analysis Markses.... |
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9215 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 01:08 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Excellent Psy-ops Gumby....... |
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anarchy1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-04 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
55. I think you need to read up on the PNAC crowd and the men they |
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