What 18 Republican Senators will vote to impeach?

[PurityOfEssence]

If Wilkinson speaks, pointing out that not only did Junior know that the uranium information was false, but that he wanted people who would stand up and sustain the lie enough to give him cover, then he's in truly deep yogurt.

A simple majority in the House is possible--iffy, but possible--when you heat things up enough and let every swing/shakey Republican know that it will be used against them with wrath. The question is the Senate. To give someone cover in a situation where he lied to start a war--especially an untidy little miasma--is to severely hurt one's own future. There are enough quasi-ethical Republicans, and enough who will sense this as a possibility to accede to the pinnacle of the post-calamity party.

So who are they? I'd say the gals from Maine (Snowe and Collins) are possibles, I'd say Chaffee is no problem. Who else? Will Lott be vengeful? Do Hagel and Lugar have a scrap of decency? Is there a John Warner behind that jaw and hair? Will Ben Nighthorse Campbell come around?

We need 18, total. This is not impossible. Your thoughts, gentles?

[Imajika]

1. Your dreaming..

"We need 18, total. This is not impossible. Your thoughts, gentles?"

We wouldn't even get close.

Fantasize if you will, but there is not going to be any impeachment.

Imajika

[indepat]

14. I can count one, maybe two Republican votes in the

House. Ain't no way, Jose.

[matt819]

2. Count out the two in New Hampshire

They are party line all the way

[sandnsea]

3. Drag it out until 2004

Impeachment will just be made out as sour grapes anyway. A long, sordid investigation will more likely get Bush out in 2004. There are SO MANY that need to be done.

[NNN0LHI]

4. Perhaps the ones who want to get re-elected?

I hope like hell there is no impeachment. A neutered Chimp is the best thing until the voters kick his ass back to the Waco pig farm next year.

Don

[MrJones]

5. Hmm.

Snowe
Chaffee
Did you count Jeffords as a Dem for these purposes?

[ButterflyBlood]

6. 18 IS impossible

we'd be lucky to get 5. we'd also have a damn difficult time in the House even. Aside from Ron Paul and maybe Amory Houghton, I don't see of anyone Republicans who would. Besides DeLay and Hastert would never let this come to the table.

[MoonAndSun]

7. My 2 senators, McCain and Kyl will not vote to impeach.

Even though McCain hates bush*, I don't think he has the will to drag country into another impeachment crisis. Kyl will not do it because he is a bush* lapdog.

But I may be wrong about McCain, I would like a chance to see what he would do.

[Kahuna]

8. I prefer that he be tried for treason once he is out of office...

That way there will be no one to pardon him and he can be sent to prision for his crimes.

[Orangepeel]

9. The House votes on impeachment

then he would be tried in the Senate, if he were to be impeached. We'd never get enough representatives to vote to impeach.

[PurityOfEssence]

12. Okay, wrong term; but you can see the point.

I based this on the premise of a simple majority being possible in the House,as stated in the post. (Not that this is a given, but it's possible.)

I've gone back and forth on this, but to a certain degree, even if our public sphere degenerates into some kind of Stalingrad, the right needs to know that it can't do as it pleases. There are ways of swaying politicians, and their future is a big issue.

Just as the House managers have been mostly removed from office by a vengeful public that was against impeaching Clinton, if the public comes around on this and the same goody-two shoes "rule of law" nazis find some way of equivocating, they can be removed too.

An attempt is not necessarily "dirty pool" or "sour grapes" and representatives need to know that somewhere between the nazi demands of Tom Delay's leadership and their constituent's needs is their future. Even were it to fail, a cleansing would be helpful, as would the shot across the bow that a party in power can't just do as it damn well pleases in its quest for world domination and mineral theft. The current bunch who control the Republican Party are brutes, and only understand vigorous opposition.

[Orangepeel]

13. but my point was that it is harder

Even if you could get a majority of representatives to impeach, you'd never get a 2/3 of senators to convict. The republicans couldn't get all republicans to vote to convict Clinton and republicans are much more lockstep partisan than Democrats. (even though the charges against Clinton were completely bogus).

[nostamj]

10. put a couple thousand military families

on the steps on congress, and we'll talk.

put a couple thousand 9/11 families with them, and we'll really talk.

* is rapidily being exposed as the toxic pollutant that he is. but, it's going to take massive response from constituencies

[peacetalksforall]

11. Please realize

that the most important reason for impeaching Bill Clinton was to counter the negativity of the Nixon history. They ahd to balance things out. The secondary reason was to plant the lie that Republicans are honorable, chaste, moral, with little need to atone for anything. The third reason was to execute a non-coorporal assassination (of Clinton) over a period of time that may end up to be two decades.

THEY CANNOT have an impeachment or even a hint of it. They are all about retribution and cleansing their own ugly history.

They only hope is that in their push to conquer, rob, ruin, destroy, and lie, there will be many more lies and charades. We already have the blackbox stuff gearing up in the background.

We may have to be satisfied with what the history books record, i.e., the REAL history books (as opposed to Coulter type propaganda history).

(By the wasy, has she announced her new project yet - the one where she founds the Joseph McCarthy Law School?)

I hate to say it, but we will probably lose a lot more of our young service men and women (and maybe some diiplomats and tourists). And the right wing will continue the evil.

[Devil Dog Dem]

15. Senators don't voe on impeachment

House members do.

[12 12 2000]

16. The House Impeach???

You're talking about the Stepford Republicans! Delay orders, they obey. Bush should have been impeached long ago - Harken, AWOL, Corporate corruption, 9/11, Energy task force shenanigans, election theft, etc. Short of discovering that Saddam is spending overnights in the Oval office - or better, having a 'menage a trois' with the royal couple - the House toadies will never vote to impeach. Even then I'm not sure...

[birdman]

17. Forget Wilkinson

The story's been retracted.

No Republican Senator could afford to vote to convict
shithead unless his approval was real low as in below 40%.
Otherwise it would not be to their advantage to do so.

Pols won't do something to hurt their reelection chances.