25 words or less: Just what the hell IS bushco's ultimate goal?

[mopaul]

they are just all over the place with their weird policies and crimes. and i can't pin down what the outcome of buscho is supposed to be. from what i can tell, the plan is to murder tens of thousands of innocent people in a land faraway, and make monstrous profits from it.

and their other agenda seems to be global domination, beginning with autocratic control over the entire middle east region, making israel the capitol.

i have a lot of other notions about what they are up to, some obvious, some not. but from observing these assholes for about 4 crazy years now, what do you think they are really up to, and what to you think they have planned for all of us?

[sniffa]

1. i can name that tune in 7 notes

prepare the worLd for the second coming.

[MarkTwain]

2. Answer: To Get Elected....

... at least once in his "Presidency."

[MallRat]

3. Precipitate a holy war...

...to justify the extermination of all Muslims and the confiscation of all their oil?

:tinfoilhat:

How's that for 25 words or less?

[ConcernedCanuk]

4. Global War

.
.
.

[Octafish]

32. Yeh. That'll kill off 7/8 of the planet's population.

After (CLASSIFIED), when the radiation dies down, they'll crawl up to the surface. Most of the survivors they'll enslave in their New Feudalism, after stripping them of their property. Of course.

[tom_paine]

39. As in Dr. Strangelove?

Very possible. Of ocurse, as in "Dr. Strangelove" they might sort of just "luck into" their particular Final Evil, without neccesarily planning it out meticuloudsy...Nazi Style.

[Octafish]

42. Excactly as in Dr. Strangelove. The same neo-conomic mindset is at work...

Yes, the BFEE would benefit in all ways from such a catastrophe. Reduced demands on the environment being just one among them. There'd be much more air, water, food, petroleum, etc for the greedy turds.

My fear: The remaining slaves (males selected because of their technical skills, females for their "highly stimulating nature") will be engaged in building "star ships." These planetary lifeboats could help preserve a small nucleus of the Master Race in the event of continued environmental collapse.

BTW: In Strangelove, remember when Gen. Turgidson is refuting the Soviet ambassador's arguments about radioactive fallout from the Doomsday Device, Ol' Bucky says -- or starts to say -- that "Our own studies--!" Then, the General's cut off and the film jumps to the next speech? For some reason, that bit's been cut out of the DVD and broadcast versions of the movie. I saw it in theater at Michigan State University, when I was a lad, and in that one, the General did give a number. Going to Kubrick web site, I found the following:


DeSadeski:

When it is detonated, it will produce enough lethal radioactive fallout so that within ten months, the surface of the earth will be as dead as the moon!

Turgidson:

Ah, come on DeSadeski, that's ridiculous. Our studies show that even the worst fallout is down to a safe level after two weeks.

DeSadeski:

You've obviously never heard of cobalt thorium G.

Turgidson:

No, what about it?

http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/amk/doc/0055.html

Two weeks must be the number these neo-con morons believe to be trut. The reality is the world would never come back. Not in humanity's time, anyway.

[JaySherman]

5. Total power.

The most dangerous figures throughout history have been those who believe the ends justify the means. The neocons believe their righteous ideology is the only means, and they'll go to any ends to carry it out.

[opihimoimoi]

6. Yup, its world domination/control.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

7. Dictatorship

Using the world for corporate interests, staying in power, and shoving right-wing theology down the necks of all the people in the world.

[workforpower]

8. Only one is needed.

POWER!

[0007]

9. Make the Carlyle Group and like organizations as wealthy and

powerful as possible.

[Hubert Flottz]

10. World Conquest!

For The Poppyland!

And Benidict Nader is out to help him!

[Karenina]

11. BIG TIME POPULATION REDUCTION.

[Hubert Flottz]

12. Eugenics is part of the program!

The master race needs it's space!

[WillyT]

13. Hey 'Mopal', Rumors Of Your Early Demise Were Greatly Exaggerated, LOL !!!

Glad ta see you around and kickin ass!!!

:bounce::hi::bounce:

[mopaul]

14. what rumor?

wha?

[WillyT]

16. Some Freeper Moran Was Calling For Your Being Banned !!!

Saw it last night. They were quicly, and I mean in record time, tombstoned.

We barely got to mess with the dude\dudette!

I'll see if it's still around.

:hi:

[WillyT]

17. Damn... It's Been Removed, But In The Subject Line Calling For Your...

banning, the moran called you Mopal. You were ably defended in a Freeper Smack-Down,and the tombstoning came quick, LOL!!!

:shrug:

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

15. Okay, here:

1. Tax cuts for the rich. Check.
2. Remove environmental/corporate regulations. Check.
3. Sever old alliances and let the world know we don't need any.
Check.
4. Repub majority in both houses of Congress. Check.
5. Establish a military/strategic stronghold in the Middle East, in an oil rich country, to secure oil reserves and to have bases in M.E. to intimidate and potentially strike out at other M.E. countries.
mmmmm

6. Reelected. mmmmmmmm

I honestly don't think the religious/culture war social agenda figures prominently in shrubco's goals except to achieve #6. They are much better at banging that particular drum than any previous president that I can think of though.

[dbt]

18. Getting as much money as possible into

As few hands as possible in the shortest possible time.

(OMG, I've got eight words left! What to do? Oh yeah...)

fuck bu$h
fuck bu$h
fuck bu$h
fuck bu$h

:evilgrin:
dbt

[JHB]

19. The ship is sinking, so be the top rat.

A combination of "screw everybody but me" economics and End Times eschatology.

[Bread and Circus]

20. I have no idea what he has in mind. It all seems so preposterous.

[seabeyond]

21. i see bush just needs to be re elected

then he starts the draft and the wars were he wants. then he creates his dictatorship and we dont get to vote anymore. then they took over the world. a handful of white men who know it all against al the world that see things differently

[chelsea0011]

22. Line the pockets of wealthy with $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Veggie Meathead]

23. I think the main goal is to secure oil supplies for the rest of the

century so that the U.S. will continue to dominate the rest of the world and put down anyone, like China or India that might become a rival.To do this they need to make sure that the oil fields in the Caspian Sea are in U.S. hands.The Caspian sea fields are estimated to hold as much reserves as Saudi Arabia.This is why they are cozying up to Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan and Azerbaijan which adjoin the Caspian Sea. And this is why it is important for them to prevent Iran from
making any deals with these countries which are predominantly Moslem.
Originally Iraq was supposed to be the base of operations for the entire Caspian Sea project.But with the fiasco unfolding there, that may not be possible and the headquarters might very well be moved to Israel.

Expect Iran to be invaded on the pretext of WMD's or Terrorism or some such pretext soon.

[DoYouEverWonder]

24. Their ultimate goal

is to get rid of all the rest of us useless eaters and keep all the world's resources for themselves.

[Mandate My Ass]

25. Let's see

Rob the treasury, shred the Constitution, steal the oil, elminate the middle class, kill social programs, education, affordable health care, unions, free speech, the environment...

ah shit, I ran out when I was just getting warmed up. I didn't even touch on how hard they're working to bring about the Rapture.

[bhunt70]

26. money money money money...

money!

[BevHarris]

34. And money = power

so that is the ultimate answer. By any means necessary.

And I agree that the religious stuff is a red herring, and not a sincere part of their agenda. Remember, Bush is supposedly a Methodist, but his own church doesn't support his agenda, and he sure fails the "What Would Jesus Do" litmus test. You know, the one where you help the sick, feed the hungry, reject the moneygrubbers and reach out to those whom society has shunned.

These people are terrified of democracy.

Bev Harris

[RBHam]

27. A Fascist/Theocratic Monarchy

No place for Lefties and Libertarians.

Jesus?

Yes?

Or No?

[kodi]

29. perhaps, but i think a self sustaining plutocracy more likely

the fascism and religious aspects are just means to an end for an uber-class elite that has decided that they no longer support democracy.

[leesa]

28. World control. And it's not being done for America. They are globalists

It is being done for corporate globalists so they can have it all. That's why so much has been done to harm America. They want Americans out of work so that we will become soldiers and so that we will be agreeable to working for slave wages when we are desperate enough. Already, people are thrilled with ten dollar an hour jobs when a gallon of milk costs 4 dollars.

[EV1Ltimm]

30. <ahem>

Bankrupt the government to eliminate social services.
Expand American influence to increase revenues for corporations
Cut taxes to corporations; creating 'trickle down' economics
Facism Anyone?

[durutti]

31. Destroy social safety net & establish empire.

Yup.

[OneBlueSky]

33. near as I can figure . . .

here's what BushCo's goals seem to be . . .

- foreign engagements in pursuit of U.S. hegemony
- less government
- generous tax cuts for the privileged
- privatization or elimination of Social Security and Medicare
- rollbacks of environmental safeguards
- major curbs on the public's right to go to court
- a laissez-faire free market system unfettered by regulations or public-interest accountability

[w4rma]

36. Less government? Then why are they creating more government? (nt)

[SharonAnn]

79. Shhh, they're "privatizing it" with "patronage jobs" so the

jobholders will be loyal to Bushco.

Want a Job? Support Bushco!

Lost a job? You didn't support Bushco!

[ret5hd]

35. Worlwide Corporo-Feudalistic Theocracy

just using the theocracy part to keep us serfs in line.

[Failure]

37. To turn the country into a fascist theocracy which dominates

the world with military power.


failure.

[sinkingfeeling]

38. In a single word: Evil

[rman]

40. Murder, profit and global domination go together quite well.

I'd say those are part of the same agenda.

Of course it's impossible to explain in 25 words how one arrives at the conclusion that global domination is the goal.

One person who came close to doing just that is President Abraham Lincoln (slightly paraphrased):

"The money power will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the world is destroyed." (1864)

[liarliartieonfire]

41. Its the evolution of the Bush family destiny...Read this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1568810#1569120

Pretty well puts it in perspective..We have a lot of work to do.

reading down the posts at this link.."seemslikeadream" has some great links..It would be wise to save some of this on your puter, We'll want to be able to debate the issue when the crap hits. Good to be informed..heads up

This is what its all about with Bush et al...Pretty sickening.

[napi21]

43. World domination! Total control of world oil supply!

[hatrack]

44. Permanent war, permanent deficits, permanent armed access to oil

A muzzled press, ignorant citizens and loads of infotainment.

Bankrupted social spending, theocratic judicial rule, environmental destruction.

[dawn]

45. World domination and...

control of working people in all nations for the benefit of the corporate elite. Lastly, a move toward a fundamentalist Christian regime in the USA.

[Peregrine]

46. Bring about the "End Times"

fulfill the prophecies.

[kaitykaity]

51. I'm starting to think you are right.

That's the only thing that makes any sense.

[Beam Me Up]

47. Create conditions leading to the overthrow of the Constitution

They've been working on it for over fifty years.

They have been incredibly effective. They are masters of social control.

Beyond that, a restructuring of human social mythology to implement the "New World Order."

[welshTerrier2]

48. The Sage Words of Howard Zinn

it's nice to see that Mr. Zinn holds the same position I do on a "solution" to the Iraq mess ... he is apparently a very wise man ...

source: http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0507-08.htm

What would be a reasonably good scenario to accompany our departure? The UN should arrange, as US forces leave, for an international group of peacekeepers and negotiators from the Arab countries to bring together Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds, and work out a solution for self-governance that would give all three groups a share in political power. Simultaneously, the UN should arrange for shipments of food and medicine, from the United States and other countries, as well as engineers to help rebuild the country.

The one thing to be avoided is for the United States, which destroyed Iraq and caused perhaps a million deaths through two invasions and ten years of sanctions, to play any leading role in the future of that country. In that case, terrorism would surely flourish. It is for the United States to withdraw from Iraq. It is for the international community, particularly the Arab world, to try to reconstruct a nation at peace. That gives the Iraqi people a chance. Continued US occupation gives them no chance.

[jobendorfer]

49. I think Francis Ford Coppola nailed it

Kurtz: so what do you think of my method?
Willard (slowly): I don't see any method at all ... sir.

J.

[Petrodollar Warfare]

67. Actually, Kurtz asked: "Are my methods unsound?"

...and yes, the neocon methods are both unsound and arrogant, but I digress... A careful reading of the various PNAC documents and Sept 2002 US NSS is really a logical extension of a secret 1948 document establishing US geostrategy in the post-WWII period, which has basically remained in effect for 56 years - usually via a mostly covert basis. The basic goal was stated in Policy Planning Study #23 (PPS23), a top secret planning document written by George Kenan (head of the State Department Planning Staff) in 1948:

"we have about 50% of the world's wealth but only 6.3% of its population. ... In this situation, we cannot fail to be the object of envy and resentment. **Our real task in the coming period is to devise a pattern of relationships which will permit us to maintain this position of disparity **... To do so, we will have to dispense with all sentimentality and day-dreaming; and our attention will have to be concentrated everywhere on our immediate national objectives. We need not deceive ourselves that we can afford today the luxury of altruism and world-benefaction. ... We should cease to talk about vague and ... unreal objectives such as human rights, the raising of the living standards, and democratization. ***The day is not far off when we are going to have to deal in straight power concepts. The less we are then hampered by idealistic slogans, the better."***

The neoconservative geostrategy is the evolution of Kenan's "straight power" concepts into formal US geostrategy, exemplified by the unprecedneted militarization of US foreign polcies from 2001-2004. In turn, this is most likely due to the Bush/Cheney junta's realization before coming into office of the imminent geological phenomenon known as global Peak Oil, and the unexpected (and censored) challenge to the dollar's International Reserve currency status from the euro, courtesy of Saddam's switch to a "petroeuro" in November 2000. Of course this issue is unresolved, and exascerbated by the EU's enlargement plans (Phase II occured this month, now EU = 22 countries + 3 partial members). The 30-year goal is to gain control of OPEC, which is especially important before they can transition to either a dual dollar/euro oil transaction pricing system (ie. petrodollar & petroeuro), or the less likely, single currency "petroeuro" system. The later would be the end of both US economic & military hegemony.

Thus, maintaining our "position of disparity" is becoming increasingly difficult, and we will have to kill an awful lot of brown skinned people who live in the Persian Gulf region in order to maintain our hegemonic status. Moreover, if the neoconservatives are not careful, we may end up at war with white skinned people (ie. EU & Russia) and perhaps even yellow skinned people too (ie. China). However, I predict the US dollar standard will be abandoned by the G8 before the neocon agenda could be fully realized, but we shall see...

So, in essence, it's about money and oil and a desperate attempt to maintain US hegemony. Who's money and who's oil? Actually, the goal is to control MOST of the world's supply of both. Nothing less will suffice in order to maintain US global domination.

Lastly, the final aspect as required in Straussian theory is religion, which is necessary in order to convince the "vulgar masses" of the nobility of such pursuits by the state...although Dr. Strauss was quite adament the ruling elites need not/must not subscribe to the "pious fraud" of religious doctrine. Neoconservative doctrine in three words: Power, greed, & deception.

[Th1onein]

50. Bush is a Dominionist. But not out of a true belief--out of greed.

[SoCalDem]

52. empty treasury....secure bushco pals' future income....

cripple economy....remove safety net programs.... end public education....put jesus everywhere....start wars....undermine women and minorities....

[amazona]

53. in one word: money

None of it makes sense until you see the money they are raking in. Halliburton was going to go bankrupt on asbestos' claims and now it isn't. Reservists can't handle the job so Halliburton, excuse me, their subsidiary KBR, will make bazillions hiring contractors. So on and so forth. Every time they do something really stupid and you scratch your head and wonder why...look for the money angle and suddenly it all makes sense. Empire, history, they aren't capable of even imagining these things. It's about the money.

Their dream would be for all of us to be in a privately owned prison working for pennies a day for shareholder profit but, you know, baby steps. Trying to steal Iraq, Haiti, etc. is a great way to bulk up the Halliburton/Cheney bottom line.

Never again, I pray, will anyone, anywhere, elect someone who promises to run the country like a CEO. It is sheer conflict of interest. Anyone running the country to profit themselves will, because of overwhelming temptation and opportunity, become a criminal. And I don't think these dudes came on board with pure motives to start with...

It's about the money. Carlyle, Halliburton, need we go on?

[The empressof all]

54. Nuclear Disneyland

Their goal is to totally destroy the planet to turn it into a "Hot" Vacation spot for the kids from the home planet. That's where the real money is! :)

Sorry --couldn't help myself there-I really don't think any of this is very funny

[CityZen-X]

To return This Planet.......

to what it was once. A barren tundra of a wasteland, inhabited by cave dwellers and dinasours! George, George, George of the jungle!

[CityZen-X]

55. To return This Planet.......

to what it was once. A barren tundra of a wasteland, inhabited by cave dwellers and dinasours! George, George, George of the jungle!

[mopaul]

61. that cracked me up, thanks.............n/t

[info being]

56. Like all Illuminati (Skull & Bones, etc.), to rule the world

They believe it is their destiny to rule the world at any cost.

[Cleita]

57. I'm beginning to wonder if they know?

They just don't seem to have any focus on anything anymore. At first it was get Osama; get Saddam. They got Saddam and seem to have lost interest in Osama.

??????

[The empressof all]

58. I'm not sure they ever really did know

I sometimes wonder if this whole fiasco of a war was a result of the belief that It was better to do something---anything ---rather than do nothing.

[Cleita]

62. Could it be that a wartime president has a heroic ring to it?

In past wars, it took so long to get the war atrocities reported on that it lost it's impact by the time they were seen in a newsreel or in print. In the first gulf war, things were over so quickly that it took years for the truth to come out and by that time we had a new President. If this was their intent they didn't factor in how visible war is in the media today and how quickly it is reported. Even if our propaganda media doesn't tell all, others do like the Canadians, British and other Arab countries media.

[The empressof all]

65. War is easier

I suspect they thought War was easier than doing anything else in their job descriptions.---Cheney, Bush, Wolfowitz and the lot playing GI Joes.

[BrotherBuzz]

59. The Bush* plan in all things

PRIVATIZE the profits and SOCIALIZE the cost.

[barbaraann]

60. To put us in the Matrix?

?

[Generator]

63. I agree with every answer here!

Mainly,(don't underestimate the sure power of feckless incompetence)they DON'T know what the F they are doing. Bunnypants is promoting his END TIMES strategy, Cheney is doing it for cash and because he is part of the evil reptilian overlord race (any Gnostic's in the house?)to get re-elected (my motto with them is "it's the election, stupid") what wouldn't they do to get re-elected(shivers) and promoting their ideology (regardless that it's not based even remotely on any reality or understanding of history that has ever been) it doesn't matter, because as Kerry said on Hardball in answer to why they went into Iraq (not weapons surely)

BECAUSE THEY COULD

Creepy is the word the best defines the whole cabal.

[Sapphocrat]

64. In 22 words...

[foreigncorrespondent]

78. Excellent photoshopping.

Great work. And I couldn't agree more. :)

[NJ Blue Collar]

66. Ummm...

I really have no idea.

[Darranar]

68. Greater economic inequality. n/t

[KansDem]

69. I'll try...

Bush et al want world domination. US, the only competitor, standing in the way. BushCo will destroy US through bankrupting it and destroying American morale.

(counting "US" as one word, there are exactly 25 words here)

[info being]

73. Kerry wants world domination, too.

Maybe a different kind of world domination. And they're probably both being played by people much more powerful.

[TrogL]

70. Global Fascism

They intend to grab all the resources, starting with oil, and hence control all flow of money, funneling it to themselves.

All governments would be subservient to global industries.

[Oddman]

71. To rule the world and

continue his clandestine homoerotic relationship with Donald "Rummy" Rumsfeld.


Does anyone know that you’re my hero . . . .

[pinto]

72. American Iron Curtain, an arc of US controlled states from the Caucasus

to the Gulf, maintained by military bases and fortified "embassies" supported by American military/industrial conglomerates and puppet regimes, developed under the guise of democratization of the Middle East.

[MilDem]

74. I'm not sure they know

The more and more I learn about these folks, the less I think they even know what thier ultimate goal is. There seems to be no sense of knowing what endgame is for any of thier plans.

[mandyky]

75. In his own words -

"it would be much easier being a dictator".

[Beacho]

76. Easy

Re-instate the 'ancien regime'of pre-revolutionary France.

Guess who gets to be the aristocracy?

[CrispyQ]

77. bankrupt America & buy it for pennies on the dollar . . .

Scroll down to "The Republican's Sinister Secret Plan." Out there, but thought provoking.


GWB is Shameless


...hope the link works.

[suzijane]

80. three goals

1. Increase deficit so much that all social programs must be completely eliminated.
2. Keep US troops in Iraq to protect Sharon until he has enuf land and a high enuf wall.
3. Keep Bush in WHite House by any means, legal or otherwise.

Is that too many words?

[milkyway]

81. Undo the 20th Century nt