Look. How Can You Say What an American Does Is Not What Americans Do?

[Solomon]

I mean really.

Ten americans get caught doing what americans do, because, after all, they are "americans", ate McDonalds & Cokes, and baseball, mom and apple pie. Fourth of July and all that, you know the routine. They are americans okay? Americans did something and then you say "that's not what americans do". It's absurd.

SO STOP IT.

[dsc]

1. Well Roy Kohn was quite the rat bastard

I don't think that means that is what gay men do.

[NWHarkness]

5. True, but..

Conversely you can't say "Gay men don't do that" when the topic on the table is a gay man who did. He may not be representative, but it would be disingenuous to claim that no gay man would ever do what he did.

[blondeatlast]

9. Bushit was speaking TO the Arab people.

He needs to convince THEM, not me (I know we don't do this as a rule).

It's a damn fine, fine line.

[Az]

2. Perhaps he was refering to a platonic ideal of an American

Na. Only thing George ever had to do with Plato was visiting a grotto named after him.

[drfemoe]

14. Too many "Americans"

have been referring to this incident as "hazing" for my comfort.

That's what Americans do .. make excuses.

[pnb]

3. If you want to think only in terms of generalizations...

...go ahead and say it.

If you prefer to think, well that's a whole 'nother story.

[Misunderestimator]

4. My thoughts exactly!

It's as if he (they) think his audience will react like his usual handpicked namby-pampy american audiences who get off just hearing the word "american" spoken like a drunk.

THAT'S not what Americans do. No sirree-bob no. I guess those guys are going off to Gitmo now. Bush just took their citizenship away.

[BigMcLargehuge]

6. Well, Jeff Dahmer killed and ate his lovers

and he was an American... but not all Americans do that. In fact, you could certainly argue that Americans don't do that if you are speaking in generalities greater than 1 our of 300 million.

[Solomon]

10. Oh just stop it. When one person does a thing, no one would ever

make nationality an issue. The only exception to this seems to be with blacks. One does something bad and they're all bad.


Get a better example. Or JUST STOP IT! :)

[BigMcLargehuge]

11. the difference between 1 and 10 is irrelevant

don't you think compared to the 299,999,999 other Americans?

Frame your argument better, or you stop it.

:)

[Solomon]

17. Go inside of america's prisons, and see if

that's what americans do. Just Stop It. We are talking about a war in which we are claiming to be morally superior. The soldiers who committed the abuse, were american soldiers. I don't know of any war, where the soldiers don't rape, and abuse the people they have to occupy.

The myth that americans are somehow different, is horsedukey.

JUST STOP IT! :evilgrin:

[Cronus Protagonist]

16. Was he operating in the employ of and as an instrument of the state?

Didn't think so. Apples and oranges.

http://brainbuttons.com/home.asp?stashid=13

[lectrobyte]

7. damn straight. labels are for soup cans.

but the problem is, someone likes to see things in terms of "evil doers" and by extension, guys in white cowboy hats (is that you, John Wayne?), and when something like this "abuse" comes to light, I halfway expect to see some spokesman on the tube melting down like one of the robots on old Star Trek when they tell it everything I say is a lie.

[blondeatlast]

8. Exactly. Aren't they told going in that in the "enemies" eyes

there is NO difference between the soldiers and the citizens.

I'm just sick about this, just sick.

[pscot]

12. Know then this, that men are as the time is:

to be tender minded does not become a sword.
Captain: I cannot draw a cart nor eat dried oats. If it be man's work, I'll do it. (Goes off to murder the prisoners)

[bryant69]

13. So is crashing airplanes into buildings what

Saudis do? Or Muslims? Or Arabs?

Maybe I"m missing the point to this post.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[ConcernedCanuk]

15. Just an indication of how Canadian's view of the US has deteriorated

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Recent Polls from the Globe and mail - first one is "voteable" the rest are archived(completed)
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Do you believe revelations of prisoner abuse by U.S. troops in Iraq will turn American public opinion against the war?


Yes - - - - 10102 votes - (60 %)

No - - - - - 6731 votes - (40 %)

Total Votes: 16833

http://www.globeandmail.com/
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Do you agree that the United States is Canada's best international friend?


Yes - - - - 11179 votes - (38 %)

No - - - - 18195 votes - (62 %)

Total Votes: 29374

LINK
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The Bush administration has denied Palestinian suspicions that the U.S. President gave Ariel Sharon tacit permission to assassinate Hamas leader Abdel Aziz Rantisi. Do you believe the United States?


Yes - - - - 5389 votes - (26 %)

No - - - - 15552 votes - (74 %)

Total Votes: 20941

LINK
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Generally speaking, do you approve of the way the United States has handled the war on terrorism since the attacks of Sept. 11?


Approve - - - - 3480 votes - (21 %)

Disapprove - - 13451 votes - (79 %)

Total Votes: 16931

LINK
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