So far, from what FOX is reporting, it sounds like Bush is offering us the

[keithyboy]

'soldiers' and not their leaders. AND he is taking absolutely NO responsibility.

OK, soldiers, get those absentee ballots filled out early!

[keithyboy]

1. He's proving to be a liar again. I thought he didn't watch TV news?

Now he is telling the Iraqi people that the first he learned of the pictures was on TV.

[LoZoccolo]

3. Oh, great.

Someone posted on here that a lot of the FReepers were "blaming the messenger" in one of their threads. I wonder if the spin'll be that the "liberal media" is trying to "undermine our efforts".

:eyes:

[hatrack]

15. Well, of course he only found out when he saw them on TV

He's already stated that he doesn't read the newspapers, though he might glance at the headlines.

Instead, he relies on his trusty staff to let him know what's important.

Moron.

[SnohoDem]

17. He said: I saw that guy in the poncho

with the wires on his fingers, and I remember thinking, because I was a fashion designer, I used to design clothes, "That is one bad window display".

[lovedems]

2. Typical. In this administration rather then going up the ladder for

responsibility, they go down.

It will just be one more screw up in a long list of screw ups.

BTW, Seymor Hersch was on Hardball last night and he kicked butt. He claims that this "few bad apples" defense will never play out.

[Bandit]

10. I think it is called trickle down

The soldiers get trickled on again.

[lovedems]

12. LOL! (kind of)

Trickle down. They apply that theory to everything don't don't they! It doesn't work with the economy and it won't work with accountability either.

[SharonAnn]

4. And remember, * put Rice in charge of Iraq's "New Phase"

And remember this:
Rice will manage Iraq's 'new phase'
By Judy Keen, USA TODAY, Posted 10/6/2003 10:02 PM Updated 10/7/2003 6:52 AM

WASHINGTON — President Bush is giving his national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, the authority to manage postwar Iraq and the rebuilding of Afghanistan.
While some saw it as a sign of frustration with the handling of postwar efforts, Bush and other officials said the move is a logical next step and reflected no dissatisfaction with progress.
"We want to cut through the red tape and make sure that we're getting the assistance there quickly so that they can carry out their priorities," Bush spokesman Scott McClellan said. "It's a new phase, a different phase we're entering."
Rice will head the Iraq Stabilization Group, which will have coordinating committees on counterterrorism, economic development, political affairs and media messages. Each committee will be headed by a Rice deputy and include representatives of the State, Defense and Treasury departments and the CIA.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-10-06-rice-iraq_x.htm

[kentuck]

5. Saddam's "soldiers" commit atrocities and it is Saddam's fault....

Bush's soldiers commit atrocities(?) and Bush blames the soldiers... Nothing new...

[tom_paine]

14. Bush = Saddam in charge of a Civilized Nation

with more sophisticated methods of control.

The Busheviks don't have t do that sort of thing...YET.

The only question remaining is how bad will it get?

Will it stop at Ferdinand Marcos Level Tyranny?
Imperial Rome Level Tyranny?
1978 Soviet Lewvel Tyranny?
1936 Soviet/1938 Nazi Level Tyranny?

I honestly don't know.

Let's all work hard to make sure WE don't have to find out!

[Ganja Ninja]

6. It's just like their approach to corporate crime.

Go after the little fish.

[fryguy]

7. does that surprise anyone??

coming from the dope who couldn't think of one mistake he's made since being in office? of course he wouldn't take responsibility, he's the Teflon pResident. perfectly isolated from anything remotely bad that goes on in "his" administration, but integrally involved in anything positive....

[keithyboy]

8. Well, I just saw the film clip: Bush is sounding just as ignorant as

in his last press conference. He now embarrassing himself in Iraq.
He sounds so un-leader-like!! God help us!

[Az_lefty]

9. The soldiers are going to hate this....

I've no doubt that this act is a reflection of the utter arrogance of the bush WH. Put a leader up there that says anything goes, and this is the result.

[MoonRiver]

11. I had a vivid dream last night

about thousands upon thousands of military absentee ballots coming in voting for KERRY! I felt the rage of these military folks against *. They were DETERMINED to get rid of him!

[indepat]

13. Why should those who command the Pentagon and the troops be held

accountable when the commander-in-chief is accountable for nothing bad, but takes credit for everything good?

[Zero Gravitas]

16. Bush ducking responsibility ?!?!?!?!?

Imagine that!

[LeahMira]

18. The Chimp is ethically challenged.

So far, from what FOX is reporting, it sounds like Bush is offering us the...
'soldiers' and not their leaders. AND he is taking absolutely NO responsibility.

Well, it is the soldiers who did the deeds. The "just following orders" defense has long since been addressed.

But the higher-ups are also responsible for letting the abuses happen at least, and certainly responsible if they encouraged abuses.

Bush, as commander-in-chief, is ultimately responsible for anything that happens, but I see his culpability more as permitting an atmosphere of hatred and anger to fester throughout the country... what with his speeches about a battle between the forces of good and the forces of evil nonsense.

Then, again, Julius Streicher was hung right along with everyone else, wasn't he?

[Az]

19. Forget the leaders. I want the Mercs they were taking direction from

I want the guys that put the Mercs there. I want the idiots that told the soldiers to follow the Mercs orders.