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Christ was Socialist Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:44 AM
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Republican scum of hollywood
Edited on Tue May-04-04 01:58 AM by Christ was Socialist
It's nice to see the hateful exist in hollywood also. Isn't it enough they control every other indutry in america?

a NEW HOLLYWOOD BLACKLIST
http://www.tinselnet.net/genres.htm

Republicans
Tom selleck
bo derek
jason preistly
bruce willis
Dennis Miller
Kelsey grammer
arnold "sieg heil" schwartenegger
Loretta Lynn
Pat Boone
chuck norris
Joe Bonsall of the Oak Ridge Boys
tom clancy
tom wolfe
Craig Titley
mel gibson
Ronald Reagan - governor of CA/President - Republican
Sonny Bono - representative for CA/Palm Springs mayor - Republican
Fred Thompson - acted before becoming TN senator - Republican
Shirley Temple (Black) - ran in 1967 for Congress in CA - Republican
Fred Grandy (Gopher on The Love Boat) - congressmen - Republican
charelton heston
Patricia Heaton (Debra, Ray's wife on Everybody Loves Raymond
On Edit
Carson Daly
Freddie Prinze Jr.
Jennifer Love Hewett
Shannon Dougherty

there are many more of these hateful sickos. I already quit watching everybody loves raymond due to heatons anti-liberal racist attitudes.i refuse to let my area (writing) fall to conservatives, fuck no, you can't be in a creative industry and be a hateful repub in control.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:46 AM
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1. With a few exceptions
Most of the Hollywood Republicans are B-list material.
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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:23 PM
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73. But you forget the neocons behind the scenes who keep pumping killing
and filth on the public. The producers, directors, and studio owners.

"They don't hate us for our freedoms; they hate us for our immorality"

The comments from the Arab peoples about our humiliating photos tells you exactly what they don't like about us. And don't hand me that crap about those four "civilians" (meaning special ops) who were killed and dragged through the streets. All this stuff the US military was doing happened way before that event. And that event may well have been blow back for what our forces have been doing.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:47 AM
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2. Sonny's gone to the great Republican hereafter
and I would severely discount Bo Derek's influence on national policy...
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 04:38 AM
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23. She is going to be on Sean Hannity's TV show.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 10:35 AM
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37. Good
If that's the best Hannity can do, it's an encouraging sign.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:12 PM
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62. You're referring to hell?
Yes, I too hope that Sonny has a room next to some of the Nazi Reichschancellors from 1931.

And that Satan regularly shoves a pineapple up his ass daily.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:37 PM
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131. For the life of me...
.... I could never understand how anyone thought she was a "10".

7.5 at best :)
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:27 AM
Response to Reply #131
154. 7.5? Huh? What?
Maybe 25 or 30 years ago. Age gracefully, Bo.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 10:52 PM
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148. 'the great republican hereafter' -HELL
.
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:55 AM
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3. Don't forget the young-uns:
Carson Daly
Freddie Prinze Jr.
Jennifer Love Hewett
Shannon Dougherty
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Christ was Socialist Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:59 AM
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5. i added them, thanks <nt>
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atre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:41 AM
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12. Is that true?
I've heard that about Dougherty, but it didn't much bother me because she is universally reviled by everyone who knows her.

The other three are a bit shocking, if only because their private lives don't bear out the fundie standards (and in this day and age if you are not a fundie, it doesn't make sense to be a republican).
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:31 PM
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 11:48 AM
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179. B'Bye Tombstoned Loser
RL
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:55 AM
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4. I'd add Jay Leno, who admittedly enjoys the republicans corporate bucks
Really not that long a list of the rich scum considering how long the liberal list is...I'll elaborate if you like?

http://www.laweekly.com/ink/04/23/deadline-finke.php
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:29 AM
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9. I wouldn't
He's paid by corporate types...so what? So are lots of people.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 04:46 AM
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24. I'll never forgive Leno and Oprah for
doing so much to make Arnie the Groper Governor of my state. :mad: :grr: :nuke:
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 10:33 AM
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36. I haven't been able to watch
Oprah for a couple of years. Every time I do catch a snippet I am reminded again of the tremendous hubris of this woman. I was in Chicago the day she shilled for her good friends Maria and Arnie and caught it live, complete with Arnold's "come" comment. :puke:
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:21 PM
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84. I'm with you, especially with Oprah.
Oprah brutally attacked Clinton for his womanizing but had no problem with the Gropenfurher. The anti-trust division needs to break-up HARPO!!! Oprah has too much influence and is ruining society!

:puke:

:mad:
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 04:05 PM
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136. I'm not in CA
but I felt the very same way. Plus Oprah pissed me off when she weighed in with her worthless $0.02 about how Hilary should react to Bill's "affair." WTF does she know about marriage?!

BTW, we should add soap opera diva Susan Lucci (Erica) to the list of repuke actresses. Never did like her.
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:48 PM
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196. Can I trouble you for that Liberal Hollywood list?
I'd really like a list of the good guys too. :)

Rp
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Christ was Socialist Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:28 PM
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205. plus he is a friend of d.miller which i dont like<nt>
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 02:11 AM
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6. I'm new here, but do we have to go there?
I mean, seriously. I've seen those daft freepers spouting their lists, and those piss me off, too. I haven't been here long, but please allow me to say that this is beneath the Democratic Underground.

These people are entertainers. Real entertainers, not politically motivated insects like our a.m.Droid evangelists--who aren't named in your list. I don't give a damn what they think so long as they do their jobs--act, sing, write, I don't give a damn, if I can enjoy it.

Except Rainbow Six. Jesus, that book just sucked.

But I hear the video game is pretty good--and that's what I'm talking about!

Total Recall is a fun movie. So is Planet of the Apes. The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test is an interesting read.

On the other hand, if I could go back in time and film Fred Grandy and Sonny Bono naked, on fire, and jumping out of the same porthole of the Pacific Princess, then I would have advanced television entertainment by three decades. I might consider doing that.

But please, let's not eschew art, creativity, and thought in a fruitless attempt to harm a (sometimes) talented artist for political motivations. It sullies us far more than they.
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TheWizardOfMudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:31 AM
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11. You got it backwards
Nobody is talking about their art.

They are idiots in real life; not pretend.
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 10:51 AM
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43. Maybe so...
...byt that dweeb who did Total Recall among others, is now gropenator of CA.

That dweeb who did Die Hard crap, supports an illegal war for all.

Don't tell me it isn't politically charged when half these dweebs when making live appearances will make political statements.

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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 04:13 PM
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137. YES, we do have to go there
Edited on Tue May-04-04 04:14 PM by Carolina
because:
1) many of them are perpetrators of sex and violence films that their party (you know the family values one) rails against

2) since the GOP only understands money, I believe in hitting its supporters where it hurts the most ... in their pocketbooks

3) I do not give a rip if it appears petty or "sullies us" since we have been nice for far too long
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:27 AM
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7. James Woods is a Republican too.
eom


John
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:26 PM
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88. Sounds like a pretty rabid one, too
Drugs'll do terrible things to your mind...
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:30 AM
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155. Yes remember after 9-11 when he.....
Came up with that ridiculous, look at me, cock and bull story about how he sat across the aisle from one of the terrorists during their "dry run" flight several months before 9-11.

Can you say "horse shit".
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:28 AM
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8. Doesn't matter about Sonny Bono.
Sonny Bono is dead.


John
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:31 AM
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10. Tom Selleck seems a pretty decent dude
Though I'm not agreeing with him on the whole gun thing. But there are liberal 'gun nuts,' too. Incljuding right here on DU.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 09:52 AM
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28. You Rang, Sir?
Thought I heard somebody say "Liberal Gun Nut"?

Dat's me.

:-)

I almost have to give Tom Selleck a pass, if only because of the way Rosie jumped his ass when he was on her show to plug a new movie and she wanted to talk guns. Of course, that was before 11 Sept. and her subsequent change to "If Bush was a woman, I'd fuck him"...

But then, Selleck DID spend Nam in the Guard....

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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 10:39 AM
Response to Reply #28
38. I think Rosie's come back to the left
her venture to the dark side was temporary insanity, ya know
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 10:56 PM
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149. That's right, she did come back to an even keel...
But was she EVER soaking her panties for the Shrub. I thought she was gonna pull an Anne Heche for a while there...("Yes I am-No I'm not-Yes I am-No I'm not)

Ah, well...Life's too short to waste it discussing someone who reminds me of my ex wife...
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:20 PM
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70. Selleck used to do ads for National Review
He extolled its "common sense" - Buckley's pro-Reagan, Bush I and II, Thatcher, RW rag. Selleck is a total repuke, and not because of guns alone.

That, and not a very good actor.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:22 PM
Response to Reply #28
85. You're not a gun nut
You're just plain nuts. :P

No reference intended to the anesthetic qualities of the average bicycle seat...
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:46 AM
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13. We've certainly got talent on our side.
And they got Bruce Willis.

They'll never admit it, but they're pissed about that outcome. :D
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 10:03 AM
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30. Moses/Charlton Heston is in the latter stages of Alzheimers
maybe he will vote deomcrat this time around.

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Cerval Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 10:07 AM
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32. Charleton Heston...
...Is the evil of idiocy personified. Seen Bowling for Columbine?
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 03:11 AM
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203. Heston
Edited on Thu May-06-04 03:12 AM by tx.lib
But, I`ll betcha they still won`t get his uzi out of his cold, senile hands- or was it a Scud missile launcher?
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:47 AM
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14. Screw 'em all, except Loretta.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:48 AM
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15. Get back, Loretta!
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 11:59 AM
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53. Loretta married a white power Nazi
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:19 PM
Response to Reply #53
68. She did?
Where did you hear that?
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:25 PM
Response to Reply #53
87. Sounds like the first line of a really interesting country song
Loretta married a white power Nazi
Whose sister was pretty cultured and really artsy
And then my gerbil died
And all the cards fell to the floor
Like tears from Corregidor...

(kind of an existential country song)
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #53
128. Doo?
Say what?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 04:32 PM
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139. This is one women I can stand to listen too! Worse when she talks.
When she backed junior in 2000 I though I was gonna puke my guts out.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 04:25 AM
Response to Reply #14
160. She's just did an album with Jack White from the White Stripes
Her married to a Nazi???? Hmmmmm. That's shocking.

She seems like a downhome, down to earth, will cook you a pie sort of woman. That would be shamed if this was true.



John



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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:53 AM
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16. are they all "hateful" ?
I mean, do they spew hateful rhetoric all the time or are they hateful simply because they are republicans? I certainly don't hate anyone just because they are a republican. I hate certain republicans, but not all of them. How boring the world would be if everyone had the same views. Maybe I am just one of those weird liberals that doesn't believe in stereotyping or hating an entire group of people.

:shrug:
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 04:02 AM
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18. Yeah. How many are neocons? They're the ones who're more likely to be
truly hateful. As it is, a hit list of Republican celebrities qualifies as hate-full.

Of the people on thqat list, I'd guess that the following might actually be rabid right-wingers, based on what little I've read:

Bo Derek
Dennis Miller (at least for now...he's a true sell-out who sold his soul)
Kelsey Grammer, maybe...maybe
Pat Boone, if only from the extreme Christian fundamentalist side of things
Tom Clancy
Charleton Heston - though I believe he has worked the other side, as well
Patricia Heaton, maybe
Shannon Dougherty - whose appeal, by the way, has always escaped me
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 04:07 AM
Response to Reply #18
20. Definitely agree on a couple of those
Dennis Miller and Charleton Heston. The others -- I guess I've never heard them speak about their politics so I wouldn't know, but I'll take your word for it. Shannon Dougherty... I think she is probably hateful no matter what her politics, at least that is how she comes off in everything I have ever seen of her.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:14 PM
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64. Doesn't Doherty have a criminal record?
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:29 PM
Response to Reply #64
90. She certainly has a criminal 'acting' record
Seem to recall her destroying property on more than one occasion, so maybe she got nabbed for one of those episodes.
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 10:44 AM
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41. Kelsey Grammer Is a Big-Time Pub
He's made some big political donations and the pugs eventually wanna run him against Feinstein or Boxer. I think he has too many skeletons but the pubbies seem good at keeping them locked up these days, eh?
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:23 PM
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71. Kelsey has major skeletons.
His ex-wife's (a former stripper) family is very close to my step-mom.

Years ago when she was married to Kelsey, my dad and step-mom when to visit them. Kelsey and Leigh Ann spent a big part of dinner going back to and forth to the bathroom to "freshen up" several times.

If Kelsey ran, it would be UGLY.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 11:57 AM
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181. The cocaine and alcohol are not really skeletons
His DUI was pretty well covered by the media, as have the cocaine allegations.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 10:23 PM
Response to Reply #18
142. Patricia Heaton is NAUSEATING.
During the grocery strikes in California, she continued doing her really annoying whoring for Albertson's, which turned my stomach, but the other day, I did some surfing.

After the march the other day I checked out a couple pro-life sites to find out which celebrities were pro-life. The two that stuck in my head the most were her, and ex-model Kim Alexis.

Also add that monobrow twit Kathy Ireland to the list.
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 06:55 AM
Response to Reply #142
165. I will at least
give her credit for actually believing in it as she is also anti death penalty and I would have to assume against illegal wars. She would have to be against the killing of thousands of children and civilians, right?
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:16 AM
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168. If she was against illegal wars
she would have changed her political party affiliation by now.

The fact that she is still a joyful Repug is what causes me to avoid her "work" at all costs.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 01:42 PM
Response to Reply #165
184. Don't bet on it. The neo-con mind
works in disturbingly mysterious ways.
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Christ was Socialist Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 09:35 AM
Response to Reply #16
26. At the very least they are enablers
and if we should have learned anything from that brief skirmish between 39-45, those enablers put scum in office. WHat is this different view stuff you are talkign about? Look at all the different views on this board, do you prefer homophobia? fundamentalism? the noble lie? rascism? greed? corporate rule? War on the innocent?
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 10:57 AM
Response to Reply #26
44. huh?
homophobia? fundamentalism? racism? etc... Where do you get that I like those views? Not every person who votes republican has all those views. Good grief.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:09 PM
Response to Reply #44
58. I disagree
I believe greediness and bigotry are in the heart of all republicans.
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 09:47 AM
Response to Reply #16
27. Agreed.
I refuse to deprive myself of a good read, listening or viewing experience just because a performer/artist doesn't share my personal/political beliefs.

A lot of great artists were horrible people in their private and personal lives. It doesn't diminish any advancement or contributions that they may have expressed on their particular field.

And I find it funny that on this board there are posters will give Roman Polanski a pass on his fleeing criminal charges just because he's a great director but those same posters refuse to support an actor strictly because the actor happens to be a Republican. It's moments like those that make me think that extreme right/left wingism contributes to mind rot.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 10:40 AM
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39. I will not give Roman Polanski a pass
he drugged than ass-raped a fourteen year old girl. The man is scum.
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 10:59 AM
Response to Reply #39
45. Oh please!
She was 13, and it is nice to know she has actually forgiven him, and feels he should be allowed to return to the U.S.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 11:40 AM
Response to Reply #45
50. Forgiveness is nice but it is not a basis for a criminal justice system
Go to the Smoking Gun and read the police reports. What he did was evil. If some guy in the inner city did this people would be screaming for jail or worse. But I guess if you are famous (and white) our celebrity-obsessed culture will let you get away with child rape.
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:11 PM
Response to Reply #50
60. I have read the reports...
...I have also read what the victim herself now in her 30's and a mother has said. The way I look at it, if she can forgive then others need to forgive as well.

And before you say I am some sort of looney, think twice, I was actually molested by a family member, from a very young age, until 14 when I stood up to this person. I have since, after suffering many years because of this, forgiven the person in question.

And, my friend, forgiveness is something we all should aim to achieve in life.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:18 PM
Response to Reply #60
66. You and I have to simply disagree
His conduct was criminal. The state cannot ignore crimes just because the victim has forgiven the perp. Can you imagine the mischief that would result? There would be extraordinary pressure on victims to "forgive" the attackers which would lead to witness intimidation and subornation of perjury.

Forgiveness may be taken into account at sentencing, but if you did the crime (and plainly he did the crime) you must be prepared to accept the consequences.
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:11 PM
Response to Reply #66
81. You know what?
Edited on Tue May-04-04 01:17 PM by foreigncorrespondent
It was what, 20 (maybe more) years ago? There really needs to be a statute of limitations on certain crimes.

On edit: Going by your way of thinking, you would lock the person up who molested me as a child, regardless of my feelings on the situation. Guess what? If people can forgive after 20 odd years, then others really need to learn forgiveness as well.

The person who molested me is now in their late 50's. This person, even though they do bugger up every now and then (nothng serious, just current personal stuff I don't wish to bring up without bringing up who the person is that I am talking about), they have turned out to be pretty good.

I suspect the person that did this to me to have some problems in mental health. I suspect maybe Roman has some problems with mental health as well (wouldn't you, after your wife and unborn child were slaughtered by a bunch of sick hippies?) I would much prefer to see people in these situation get the right kind of help, not jail time, in an already over crowded system, where they aren't going to get the kind of help they truly need.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #81
83. There are statutes of limitations
However, it is tolled when a charged criminal flees the jurisdiction. Again, the mischief factor. Many statutes are relatively short (2 to 5 years) and we can't have foreign based criminals skipping the jurisdiction when they get charges with crimes. No SOL for murder, rape usually. I am not familiar what the SOL is in California for drugging and ass-raping a (barely)teenager.
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:55 PM
Response to Reply #83
105. Please...
...try and be more considerate with the words you use. In case you haven't been listening, I was molested as a child. You want the gory details? I don't need to see "I am not familiar what the SOL is in California for drugging and ass-raping a (barely)teenager" when I went through similar experiences from the age of five.

Thanks for the flashbacks buddy, just what I needed today, when my partner is right at this moment attending the funeral of her much loved Aunt, and I am not able to be there with her and for her, because of the discrmination same sex couples face in the United States.
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 02:28 PM
Response to Reply #45
113. Sorry, forgiveness doesn't give him a pass.
There are certain crimes that a government is obligated to prosecute despite the wishes of the victim and I'd be willing to bet that sexual crimes committed against minors is one of them.

At minimum, Polanski should be willing to be tried. If the evidence is based totally on the victim's testimony then I can imagine the victim can either "blank out" on the stand or refuse to testify period and Polanski will be found not-guilty. Until then, as gifted as he may be, he's still slime.



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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 01:43 PM
Response to Reply #39
185. Agreed. No pass.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:08 PM
Response to Reply #16
57. listen to anyone on that list
yes, they are hateful
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:16 PM
Response to Reply #16
82. Yes they are ALL HATEFUL!!!
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 04:00 AM
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17. How Christlike to call these people "hateful sickos"
OK, Schwarzenegger's on the list--he's pretty obvious.

Exactly what are the criteria that led to each name being added? Repeated statements in the press? Or occasional presence at a Republican fundraiser? More detail is definitely needed.

And, as a writer, what's your problem with standard usage?





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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 04:03 AM
Response to Reply #17
19. I don't think Arnold's a true neocon
Though he might be a tool of them, whether he likes it or not.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 04:15 AM
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21. I hope some of them have since changed their party affiliation...
One of my favorite actresses is on that list.:cry:

How seemingly sane people can still support this POS in unbelievable.
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:10 PM
Response to Reply #21
59. If you are talking about who I think you are...
she hasn't. Unless I'm missing something, the only actress on the list who is even remotely successful is Patricia Heaton. She's not only a Repug, bug a HUGE pro-lifer--as in outspoken about it.
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Spirochete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:13 PM
Response to Reply #21
63. Some of them have changed
since * took office. Clint Eastwood and Kurt Russell, for instance, have moved to the Libertarian party, or so I'm told.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:30 PM
Response to Reply #63
74. in Eastwood's own words
In a recent interview he said, "I never thought of myself as a conservative, but I am no ultra-leftist either." Notice he said 'ultra', but didn't outright say 'leftist'.

The man works with and brings out the best in leftist actors like Sean Penn and Tim Robbins. He has also been close friends for many years with old guard liberals like Donald Sutherland and James Garner. Safe to say, Eastwood is independent and libertarian, but not a member of the party.

Also, he has NEVER come out in support of Bush or the war. He once described his meeting with Clinton while he was president quite politely - saying he "was a very charming man". That may not be a political endorsement, but it was not a slam on his personal life or a veiled attack.

Eastwood is okay by me. Great director, decent actor.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:44 PM
Response to Reply #74
132. It would make me sad...
... if Eastwood were a puke, because as an actor and director he is A list in my book.

I still enjoy the stuff he did in the late 60s and 70s, and the recent stuff he's done is proof that not everyone loses it when they get on in years :)
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:33 PM
Response to Reply #63
93. Kurt Russell was riased Republican but changed his mind before Bush II
He characterizes himself as a Libertarian but I don't know if he's with the Party...from the sound of it, he just enjoys being contrary and hard to pin down.

Ditto with Clint Eastwood...not sure he was EVER a Republican at heart.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:41 PM
Response to Reply #63
195. Eastwood has always been a Democrat.

The only time he ran for elective office was as a Democrat. His only political appointment was by Gov Gray Davis (D-CA), and he campaigned against the recall.

I keep asking this question, but can never get an answer: what makes people think Clint Eastwood was ever a Republican?
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 03:56 AM
Response to Reply #195
204. "Dirty Harry" -- proving once again how common it is to
confuse and actor with his role. It's been a while since I'v e seen any of those films, but I'm not even sure that old Harry would qualify as a right-winger...maybe just a libertarian with an attitude. Actually, wasn't he basically fighting a fascist-type rogue police unit in Magnum Force?

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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 04:23 AM
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22. Gee, I wish those Hollywood elites would stay out of politics
But I don't consider Mel Gibson, Bruce Willis, and Kelsey Grammar to be scum. Just misguided.

The others though, yeah, sure.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #22
65. Has Mel Gibson gotten his U.S. citizenship yet?
He's from Australia.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #65
76. Gibson was born in New York state
He IS a U.S. citizen by birth. His father moved them to Australia when Gibson was a child.
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theoceansnerves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 05:13 AM
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25. love his movies
hate his politics
spell his name right - charlton
heh.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:34 PM
Response to Reply #25
94. Charlatan?
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Quahog Donating Member (704 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 09:55 AM
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29. No big loss
Not a single person on that list who's work as an "artist" I admire.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 10:05 AM
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31. Your post is unfair and inaccurate.
Edited on Tue May-04-04 10:06 AM by blm
Some of those on the list don't belong there. Only some of those on your list are outspoken in their conservative bias, others keep it to themselves.

Your post is also spreading hate in an unfair way, imo. Leave the unfairness to the Republicans, please.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 10:18 AM
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33. Why Loretta Lynne? Why Tom Wolfe?
That site is confusing.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 11:47 AM
Response to Reply #33
178. I remember Loretta Lynne knocking Michael Dukakis...
...saying something like we shouldn't vote for someone whose name we couldn't spell.

--IMM
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 10:23 AM
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34. actual campaign contributions of pukes on this list
if name is not linked, there is no record of contrbutions (1993-2004)
(gotta tell ya, the cash these chumps have given pales to that of liberal stars)

Tom Selleck
Bo Derek
Jason Preistly
Bruce Willis
Dennis Miller
Kelsey Grammer
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Loretta Lynn
Pat Boone
Chuck Norris
Joe Bonsall
Tom Clancy
Tom Wolfe
Craig Titley
Mel Gibson
Ronald Reagan
Sonny Bono
Fred Thompson
Shirley Temple (Black)
Fred Grandy
Charlton Heston
Patricia Heaton
Carson Daly
Freddie Prinze Jr.
Jennifer Love Hewitt
Shannon Dougherty

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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 10:27 AM
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35. I read somewhere that Matthew McConeghey...
was the one by the microphone who booed MIchael Moore at the Oscars last year. It said he was one of the loudest booers. Barbra was looking at him, when she said that we are all together, regardless of points of view.

I could be wrong. I know he's going to ruin Clive Cussler's "Sahara", as he is no Dirk Pitt, so that makes me hate him already.:evilgrin:
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 10:51 AM
Response to Reply #35
42. "I read somewhere"
Or did a somebody you know read it?

Links are always good.

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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 11:24 AM
Response to Reply #42
49. Memory is the best I got right now.
I can't remember where I saw it. Sorry.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 10:43 AM
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40. These republicans aren't like the other republicans.
Most of them have to be low key or else they wouldn't get many acting jobs. I wouldn't call them sick scum either, if they lean republican, that is their choice. I'm just satisfied that the majority of Hollywood is liberal. That is a fact.
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 11:01 AM
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46. The Osmonds used to shill for Reagan.
Is anyone surprised?
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:38 PM
Response to Reply #46
97. Mormons tend to be politically conservative
And there could have been a bit of "My President Right or Wrong" going on. My wife says Donny was (probably still is) an excellent dude, and being genuinely nice still counts for a lot in this rude world regardless of alleged political leanings.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 11:09 AM
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47. You left off Rob Lowe
:shrug: I have quit watching movies with known outspoken Republicans. I refuse to knowingly support the fascists.
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:02 PM
Response to Reply #47
55. He still claims to be a loyal Democrat . . .
but was only supporting Arnold due to his "personal admiration."

And if I'm not mistaken, wasn't he a huge Dukakis supporter, which is why his most famous (and successful) "movie" was filmed in Atlanta during the 1988 Democratic Convention??

Take it for what it's worth. And if you ask me, the Repugs are welcome to keep him if they want--can you say "Lyon's Den?"
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 11:22 AM
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48. Please people, blacklists are so McCarthyite
I would like to think that the liberal side of the population is a little more enlightened than to stoop to smearing actors because of their political affiliations. This is, after all, the kind of crap I'm used to seeing on FR, CU, or Lucy the Bat's site, not DU.

Geez, if I had to judge whether or not to consume some form of entertainment based on the entertainer's politics, hell, I would be cutting out a serious chunk of my movies, music and television. Just let it be, and if you have to take these folks on, take them on in strictly the political arena, and leave their professional life out of it.

Really, I seen many posts here bemoaning how people are punished in their private and professional life because of their politics. Let us a liberals and progressives lead by example instead of getting into the gutters with the Freepers.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 11:56 AM
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51. I guess it all depends how you wish your money to be spent
I also don't support Walmart or Carl Jr's. or Tobacco Companies. Granted I am forced to support some GOP supporters like the oil industry but if I can help it at all, my money will be spent on people and companies that truly care about people and not fascism. You do have the power to choose who and what you will support, and yes it would really be nice to get back to the days when America was a gentler place and people supported people for who they are and not for the political party they support but those days are not now. Now we are engaged in a struggle for the soul of America and IMHO if you support the GOP with your money it is the same as supporting the Devil.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 05:53 AM
Response to Reply #51
161. One crucial difference in the examples you cited
WalMart, Carl Jrs. big Tobacco, etc are corporations, not people. Actors and actresses are people, just like you and me, who through their acting talent get thrust into the limelight warts and all. Their private life, their politics are put on stage for all to see. Would you like that kind of scrutiny?

Besides, while boycotting a film because it has Mel Gibson in it, you are also denying some of his more famous liberal co starts your movie dollar. Is that fair? Or while spending that movie dollar on the new Michael Moore film, you are also enriching the corporate slime at Disney. Do you really wish to do that? Or while spending that movie dollar on the latest Garafello film, you are also enriching the movie producer who is a heavy 'Pug donor? Where does it end, how do you make the differentiations?
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 06:57 AM
Response to Reply #161
166. Hey, as the human
of a wonderful Pug I resent that. ;-). Since we got our puggy boy I refer to the enemy as rethugs, my dog is NOT a rightwing and really does lean to the left when he walks.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:05 PM
Response to Reply #48
56. Because in the end, zealotry trumps principle.
Christ, some of the guys on that list are dead. Some are listed based on what? Their political contributions? An appearance at a fundraiser?

For those supportive of this, I never want to see the words McCarthy, Censorship, or Brown Shirts typed by your hypocrtical hands again.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:34 PM
Response to Reply #48
77. Absolutely agree. Liberals don't DO blacklists.
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bigbillhaywood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 12:19 AM
Response to Reply #48
153. I think this kind of thinking is what allows conservatives to steamroll
liberals all the time. Don't get me wrong, I respect your principles on this, but I think the aggressive, nasty, take-no-prisoners style of the conservatives trumps the reasoned, tolerant approach of liberals. It's an effective tactic, and I'd like to see more leftists get mean and nasty with the right (after all, they deserve it). At least we'd only be mean and nasty with that section of the population, as opposed to all of humanity, like with the cons.

Last thing, you really can't compare a populist consumer boycott with the severe government/corporate oppression of the McCarthy/HUAC hearings and blacklists. Apples and oranges. Or maybe just different kind of apples, but there is a substantive difference between the two.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 06:02 AM
Response to Reply #153
162. But I have one question for you friend
Do you really wish to become that which you hate in order to defeat that which you hate. The kind of hate, cruelty and lack of humanity exhibited by the right wing attack dogs that you admire so are attributes that suck your soul right out of you, dehumanizing you, and changing you for the worse. It is an effective tactic, but the price you pay in order to wield that sword is too high.

And I'm sorry, a blacklist is a blacklist. You can boycott an entire film because of the message, you can boycott a company because of their corporate practices, but creating a blacklist of people to shun simply because of their politcal affiliation does smack of McCarthyism. You are shunning somebody simply because they believe differently than you. I'm sorry, but I call BS on that. First of all, I have met many fine, upstanding people throughout my life, and they happen to be Republicans. Secondly, this is the same type of tactic that the Freepers use. Do you really wish to become that which you hate in order to eliminate that which you hate?
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 11:58 AM
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52. Old list Sonny's dead..now if the rest of them would ski into a tree
The quality of entertainment would improve immensely

Funny, they left Robert Duvall off (the only decent actor in the bunch)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:41 PM
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:22 PM
Response to Reply #80
86. Fuck off you freepwad piece of shit...go ski with Sonny
Edited on Tue May-04-04 01:22 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
How's that for compassion?

(note to mods : principle Skinner says it's OK to do this AFTER they have been tombstoned....and it felt good...)
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 04:19 AM
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159. I met Sonny
Unpleasant man. A nightmare to work for, too, so it wasn't too suprising when he ran as a Republican.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 01:49 PM
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188. Damn, sorry I missed it... nt
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:38 AM
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156. I'd like to see some proof of that
I'm a huge Duvall fan and I've seen numerous TV and print interviews with him and I really haven't been able to get a sense of his political beliefs one way or another.
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Finch Donating Member (487 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:05 AM
Response to Reply #156
209. Pretty Moderate Conservative...
...seems to be on a par with someone like Spectre... he's also got southern roots, related to Robert E Lee...
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:02 PM
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54. And another thing,
I find it hard to believe that Bruce Willis is a republican. Remember when he agreed with a statement that Farakhan made a few years ago? Now there was nothing wrong with that but remember the conservative media lambasting him for agree with Farakhan on something? I think it really shocked him. I believe he pretends to be a republican to ease everyone's mind.
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dawn Donating Member (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:11 PM
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61. Jennifer Love-Hewitt? She always bugged me, now I know why. LOL
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:19 PM
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69. I used to like her...
Well, I liked a few aspects of her.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:41 PM
Response to Reply #69
98. Two things, in particular, stand out in my
mammary memory.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:18 PM
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67. Tom Selleck actually gives to both parties, as does Kevin Costner.
I know that makes them both sound like godless, soulless corporations, but I can't speak for their mind-sets or political philosophies. However, I do know Costner has a financial interest in the gaming industry.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:23 PM
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72. To put this in perspective: I'd rather have Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon
in our camp. Instead of some hoary relic of Old Hollywood (emphasis on "old") like Pat Boone.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:37 PM
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78. Imho, one shouldn't attack the rank and file. Lead by example.
Edited on Tue May-04-04 12:38 PM by w4rma
Go after the leadership that is leading them astray. Dems need a few of the rank and file to swtich and become Democratic. Attacking them makes it harder for them to consider switching.
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Borgnine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 12:37 PM
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79. Oh please.
Not everybody who is a Republican is "scum." Hell, I'm the only frickin' Democrat in my entire family, but that doesn't mean my parents, aunts, uncles, etc. are vile people. Being Republican doesn't equate to being hateful, as most Republicans I know are simply misguided people who don't have all the facts. Do we really have to resort to this brand of name calling and McCarthy-lite blacklisting?

Besides, some of those on the list like are social liberals. Kelsey Grammer, for example, was one of those who was scared into Republicanism after 9/11, but socially he seems to lean pretty far to the left, and he didn't try and wrap his entire career around it like some (cough cough Dennis Miller cough cough).
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:42 PM
Response to Reply #79
99. Not true. Kelsey was a Bush supporter prior to 9/11
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 10:51 PM
Response to Reply #79
147. kelsey HAS wrapped himself up in Pukism
supported Bill Simon
gave the pledge at the pig convention in Burlingame
has discussed his 'desire'to gve back as a senator
just what we need another hypocrite coke fiend
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Finch Donating Member (487 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:01 AM
Response to Reply #79
208. Amen...
Although Grammer was a Bush supporter prior to 9/11... I don't have a problem with Republicans... I disagree with them on some issues... and i really am suspicious of the religious right... but Republicans are not evil or vile they just come to different conclusions based on the facts before them... and thats fine... a nation where everyone had the same political views would be pretty boring... but then again I'm a moderate Dem so there you go...
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Domitan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:29 PM
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89. Here is a more comprehensive list
http://www.hollywoodrepublicans.com/recommendations.htm

It includes more Republican names to go along with the "wrong" names (due to being on the left).

Here are some more names:
Jean-Claude Van Damme
Jimmy Stewart
Drew Carey
The Rock
Kathy Ireland
Heather Locklear
Rachel Marsden
Yvette Rachelle
Martina McBride
Faith Hill
Andrea Rodriguez
Sarah Michelle Gellar


I'd prefer to see how they carry out their lives and how they regard other people before passing judgement, though.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:30 PM
Response to Reply #89
91. Well, Jimmy Stewart is dead....
But I'm not surprised that he was a Republican.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:36 PM
Response to Reply #91
95. In Stewart's day, there were more decent Republicans.....
This whole list is an idiotic waste of time. If I hear somebody spouting right-wing propaganda, they'll probably lose me as a fan.

But that's not how all these people got on the lists. Maybe they contributed once--did they ever contribute to the Democrats? Perhaps they appeared at a fund raiser.

Who really considers Loretta Lynn a neo-conservative?







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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 04:27 PM
Response to Reply #89
138. Wow, did you note
those in the "WRONG" column on that website.

Notice, too, they included Ann Coulter, enough said!

Now I'm foaming at the mouth. I knew I loathed the repuke acting set because they are not good actors and because I refuse support those who aid and abet the GOP and the current regime but site this just ads fuel to the fire.
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1songbird Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:37 PM
Response to Reply #89
193. Thanks for the list. I do appreciate having this type of information.
There is so much at stake in this country that I just can't give support to those in the Repug party.
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:33 PM
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92. I thought Mel hated the Bushco war
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:45 PM
Response to Reply #92
101. I seem to recall him saying it was A Bad Thing
Not all conservatives/Republicans support it...not all are neoconservatives or Nazis.

Just like not all 'progressives' think Jane Fonda's visiting Hanoi and doing what she did A Good Idea.
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:36 PM
Response to Original message
96. Add Jon Favreau.....
to the list
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:45 PM
Response to Original message
100. I don't think "jason preistly" is hateful.
I think there's a bit of hyperbole with this list.

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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:46 PM
Response to Reply #100
102. Is he even a US citizen?
I thought he was still, at best, a Permanent Resident.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:48 PM
Response to Reply #102
104. No, I don't think he's a citizen. You're right.
He's a permanent resident. I'm sure he hasn't applied for citizenship.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 02:11 PM
Response to Reply #104
110. If so, his non-vote doesn't count, just like those of Floridians
:D
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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:47 PM
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103. Voices of the Right support these folks - some surprises on the list!
Danny Aiello
Buzz Aldrin
Kim Alexis
Neil Armstrong
Denise Austin
Alan Autry
Frankie Avalon
Bob Backlund
"Sir" Charles Barkley
Jeff "Skunk" Baxter
Orson Bean
Catherine Bell
Belamy Brothers
Tom Beringer
Jan Berry of "Jan and Dean"
Clint Black
Lisa Hartman Black
Pat Boone
Ernest Borgnine
Bruce Boxleitner
George Brett
Jack Buck
Jim Bunning
Delta Burke
James Burrows
Kobe Bryant
Kirk Cameron
Drew Carey
Dixie Carter
Harry Wayne "K.C." Casey of "KC and the Sunshine Band"
Chubby Checker
Tom Clancy
Dick Clark
Mary Higgins Clark
Van Cliburn
Harry Connick Jr
Robert Conrad
Charlie Daniels
Tony Danza
Doris Day
Bo Derek
C.C. Deville
Mike Ditka
Shannon Doherty
Jerry Doyle
Fred Dryer
Leslie Easterbrook
Clint Eastwood
Buddy Ebsen
John Elway
Chad Everett
Chris Evert
Jamie Farr
Brett Favre
Ric Flair
Glenn Ford
Haden Fry
John Gavin
Crystal Gayle
Sarah Michelle Gellar
Joe Gibbs
Mel Gibson
Clarence Gilyard
Rev. Billy Graham
Kelsey Grammar
Fred Grandy
Merle Haggard
George Hamilton
Jim Harbaugh
Paul Harvey
Patricia Heaton
Charlton Heston
Catherine Hicks
Hal Holbrook
Bob Hope
Dennis Hopper
Susan Howard
Lee Iacocca
Kathy Ireland
Dale Jarrett
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson
Jimmy Johnson
Christine Jones
Dean Jones
Shirley Jones
Jeff Kent
Bobby Knight
Yaphet Kotto
Steve Largent
John Larroquette
Tommy Lasorda
Jerry "The King" Lawler
Al Leiter
Mario Lemieux
Meat Loaf
Anne Lockhart
Heather Locklear
Mike Love
Susan Lucci
David Lynch
Loretta Lynn
James MacArthur
Norm MacDonald
Karl "The Mailman" Malone
Barbara Mandrell
Louise Mandrell
Jackie Mason
Johnny Mathis
Charles McCord
Reba McEntire
Bernard McGuirk
Linda McMahon
Gerald McRaney
Al Michaels
John Milius
Dennis Miller
Lorrie Morgan
Julianne Morris
Wendy Moten
Jim Nabors
Wayne Newton
Chuck Norris
Ted Nugent
Gary Numan
The Oak Ridge Boys
Mike Oldfield
Gary Oldman
Tom Osborne
Ken Osmond
Marie Osmond
Fess Parker
Jameson Parker
Joe Paterno
Joe Pesci
Richard Petty
Regis Philbin
Mike Piazza
John Popper
Laura Prepon
Jason Priestly
Roseanne
Kurt Russell
Nolan Ryan
Pat Sajak
Pete Sampras
Rick Schroeder
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Jon Secada
Tom Selleck
Paul Shanklin
Ron Silver
Ricky Skaggs
Paul Sorvino
Robert Stack
Nancy Stafford
Ben Stein
George Steinbrenner
Shirley Temple-Black
Dave Thomas (SCTV)
Fred Thompson
Dean Torrance of "Jan and Dean"
Joe Torres
Travis Tritt
Janine Turner
Val Venis
Jimmy (J.J.) Walker
Darrell Waltrip
Patrick Wayne
Ann Wedgeworth
Lisa Whelchel
Reggie White
Hank Williams Jr.
Martha Williamson
Noble Willingham
Bruce Willis
Tiger Woods
BeBe Wynans
CeCe Wynans
Steve Young
ZZ Top

Blood is on the hands of our Lady MacBush.

Out damn bush! Out, I say!!

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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:58 PM
Response to Reply #103
107. Where's the link? What's the source?
How did these people get on the list?

ZZ Top played at one of Bush's Inaugural parties. But they really are not political!=.

Oh, and Bob Hope is dead.




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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 02:00 PM
Response to Reply #107
108. Hope is dead!
I saw that!!! A lot of the others are brain dead!

Here is the link!

http://www.rightvoices.com/inspiration.htm
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 02:03 PM
Response to Reply #103
109. "Julianne Morris"? Are you talking about the actress from "The Hours"?
Her name is Julianne Moore.

I hate to say it, but there's quite a few dead people on that list.
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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 02:17 PM
Response to Reply #109
111. what do you expect from a right wing neocon website?
Accuracy???:crazy:
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 02:19 PM
Response to Reply #111
112. No, I guess not. How silly of me. And, please. Jullianne Moore is NOT...
A right wing Republican. Not by any stretch of the imagination.

I'll believe Marilyn Manson is before I believe that. :-)

Terry
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 02:30 PM
Response to Reply #112
114. These lists are
made from VERY questionable sources. I found this while browsing and most of their so called back up info make little sense at all, considering the source that is NOT surprising at all. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1010544/posts

Many come from a site for repub "babes" :puke: that give absolutely NO reason why they are supposedly repubs. I don't think its usually that simple to buttonhole people, but I find it interesting that these are they same types compiling these lists that crucified the Dixie Chicks and marginalized any celebrity that spoke ill of their "glorious leader". Thats all, I'm moving on to more important things.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 10:36 PM
Response to Reply #112
145. Nope. She was at the march last Sunday.
One of the good ones!
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:46 PM
Response to Reply #103
133. Highly suspect list
I believe it's based on one touted by a right-wing site desperate to claim a share of the celebrity market. Kurt Russell and Clint Eastwood don't belong on there, for sure. Others seem a bit off, too. Merle Haggard? Anyone ever listen to the man? "Okie From Muskogee" was not his personal declaration of beliefs.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 11:45 AM
Response to Reply #103
177. Neither Roseanne nor Barkley are pukes
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 01:56 PM
Response to Reply #177
190. Barkley is decidedly Libertarian; he probably despises the NeoCons. nt
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:56 PM
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106. These lists are iffy
and I don't "blacklist" without reason. Party affiliation is not enough. Some on that list are questionable and I've not found anything on the net to confirm it. Dolly Parton, I don't think so (saw her on a list), Faith Hill, I remember she was one of the few to come out in support of the Dixies. The whole concept makes me uncomfortable, thats what the other side does. I do boycott those who disgust me, Toby Keith and Dennis Miller come to mind. Just for the hell of it I'd put our list against theirs anyday, progressives are WAY cooler.

Jerry Springer
The Dixie Chicks
Madonna
Alec Baldwin
Ani DiFranco
Barbra Streisand
Ben Cohen
Bianca Jagger
Cher
Chrissie Hynde
Danny Glover
Dave Matthews
David Clennon
Donald Sutherland
Dustin Hoffman
Ed Asner
Ed Harris
Edward Norton
George Clooney
Gore Vidal
Harry Belafonte
Janeane Garofalo
Jennifer Anniston
Jessica Lange
John Mellencamp
Julia Roberts
Larry Hagman
Marcia Ball
Martin Sheen
Martin Scorsese
Michael Moore
Mike Farrell
Natalie Maines
Oliver Stone
Peter Gabriel
Richard Gere
Robert Altman
Sandra Bernhard
Sean Combs
Sean Penn
Sheryl Crow
Spike Lee
Susan Sarandon
Tim Robbins
Harvey Weinstein
Whoopi Goldberg
Woody Harrelson


JOHN KERRY’S
HOLLYWOOD

SUPPORTERS



Ted Danson

Mary Steenburgen

Anjelica Huston

Peter Boyle

Henry Winkler

Jeffrey Jones

Barbra Streisand

James Brolin

Kevin Costner

Quincy Jones

Owen Wilson

Tom Arnold

Martin Short

Meg Ryan
Leonardo DiCaprio
Jennifer Aniston
James Taylor
Ben Affleck

Sherry Lansing
Billy Friedkin
Ron Meyer
Jim and Ann Gianopulos
Chris and Jamie McGurk
Laurie and Larry David
Sharon Stone
Eric Braeden
Garry Shandling
Rhea and Danny DeVito
Brian Grazer
Arianna Huffington
Shirly and Saul Turteltaub
John Davis
Pat and Michael York
Jason Alexander
Jay Kanter
Heather Thomas
Skip Brittenham



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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 02:54 PM
Response to Reply #106
116. Blacklist?
Just a question about "blacklisting"? Blacklisting was a term closely associated with the HUAC in the late 40's and McCarthy hearings from the early 50's, and referenced how Hollywood would not allow certain people to work. If you decide you don't like someone, and refuse to watch (or listen) to their work, is that really blacklisting, or is it just boycotting. Unlike those people in the 40's and 50's, they still have jobs, they just have a group of people who refuse to pay to see them. IMHO, it's just a poor use of the term, since 99.9% of the people don't have the power to actually blacklist someone. Celebrities get their power to influence large numbers of people based on their popularity among those people. They have every right to express their views publicly if they wish to, and I think it's a little hypocritical when someone complains because they lose fans because of it.
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #116
127. What they attempted
to do to the Dixie Chicks in particular is pretty close to blacklisting to me, fortunately it backfired on the idiots. The extreme right loves these lists and has FAR more of them than our side. I judge each on their own and if they offend me I will go out of my way not to buy or watch their work (simply being a repub is not a reason enough),the rightwing tries this as a way to shut people up and that applies to all that oppose them. I do NOT agree with this practice.
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:08 PM
Response to Reply #106
126. I love the Wilson Brothers
Yay!!
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Christ was Socialist Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 02:50 PM
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115. I bet a few who stick up for the enablers
Edited on Tue May-04-04 02:56 PM by Christ was Socialist
have entertained leaving if bush is reselected. How odd, that you don't seem to mind the people who helped him get in that position. Let's all act like the german public didn't actually elect Adolf HItler, who was supported by quite a view talented artists Oh but i guess that's no big deal.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 02:56 PM
Response to Reply #115
117. Didn't Wagner die...
In 1883, a few years before Hitler was born?
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Christ was Socialist Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 02:58 PM
Response to Reply #117
118. yes LoL i am thinking of someone else, i changed it like 30 seconds ago
i can't remember the name of the other one
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #118
120. Wagner's granddaughter
was a big fan of Hitler's. As was Leni Reifenstalh (spelling?).
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:24 PM
Response to Reply #120
191. Wagner was anti-Jewish to the core of his being
He supposedly wore glove anytime he conducted music by Mendelsson or any other Jewish composer so that he wouldn't dirty his hands.

Doesn't mean he wasn't a great composer and I sure wouldn't refuse to listen to his work just because of his personal beliefs.
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Christ was Socialist Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #117
121.  von Karajan <nt>
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:03 PM
Response to Reply #115
123. News Flash: "wagner" is dead, too.
He died a long time before Hitler was born.

And, no, I don't plan to leave.

Take every name on every list you've provided & write a few sentences showing why we should shun their work. Some of them are obvious right-wing idiots--Dennis Miller, anyone. But I wonder about others.

If you can't be bothered to write, provide a link. And not just to some spurious right-wing list--to actual actions or words from those you've condemned.





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the_real_38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 02:59 PM
Response to Original message
119. I hear a lot of the porn stars are Republicans...
.... but Kelsey Grammer and Bo Derek - that's pretty shocking.
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the_real_38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #119
122. and one more thing...
... you'll notice that a lot of these people are ones who've had problems in the past (drugs e.g.) - like Gibson, Grammer, Dougherty. Me and some of my friends have a theory that dysfunctional people are attracted to the Republican party because of it's rehabilitative social conservatism - it's part of some type of 12-step moral adjustment.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:05 PM
Response to Reply #122
124. Don't we
also have our fair share of dysfunctional people as well?
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the_real_38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:08 PM
Response to Reply #124
125. I guess we're talking about a particular type of dysfunction...
... a fearful, distrusting one that sees the worst in people. That's why they're more likely to go in for modes of control to solve problems (arrest, moral dogman, war).
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 04:50 PM
Response to Reply #125
141. "a fearful, distrusting one that sees the worst in people"
LOL....Dude....you just described most of DU.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:30 PM
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129. I'm not all that into blacklisting but
These people have come out so hard on those actors on the left that I like to know who the Hollywood righties are. That way when I make a choice as to what I'm going to watch, I can support the people who have been dissed by the right instead of those who support them. I don't consider it blacklisting. It's my money, my TV, etc., and I just don't choose to support Republicans. Especially not with my hard-earned dollars. They have enough support already.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 10:41 PM
Response to Reply #129
146. Exactly!
Well said.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:30 PM
Response to Reply #129
192. with so many choices available
why not give your time and money to those who deserve the support. I agree with you. Given the choice, I'll go with the liberals. We're besieged with entertainment. Patronizing the liberals just helps me make a selection. Plus, the wingers are usually associated with junk.
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:37 PM
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130. Don't forget Wayne Neuter.
Oh, yeah, that's Vegas scum.
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:57 PM
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134. A veritable list of losers!
LOSERS!
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 04:00 PM
Response to Original message
135. I kicked repuke artists
in general to the curb after Grand Theft 2000. I will not support the work and thereby further enrich those who aid and abet the current GOP. PERIOD.

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Christ was Socialist Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 11:28 PM
Response to Reply #135
151. Thank you. That's what i did
in my field they are all shit anyway, clancy and wolfe are overrated. They have destoryed careers of the kind libs like penn and robbins. What got me the most is all the bullshit about Janeane, nobody talks about my Janeane.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:54 AM
Response to Reply #151
158. Sean Penn's career has been destroyed?
Um, he won an Oscar two months ago for Mystic River. Sean's career is alive and well and prospering, thank you very much.
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Christ was Socialist Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 06:07 AM
Response to Reply #158
163. When was his last blockbuster
that wasn't an ensamble?
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 11:07 AM
Response to Reply #163
173. Mystic River did quite well at the Box Office
But that question isn't really relevant. Penn doesn't do the Hollywood Popcorn Summer Blockbuster movies. His films are often rated R and often deal with serious dramatic issues. Hardly fodder for teenagers hitting the local Cineplex over the summer and at Christmas.

Mystic river grossed $89 million which is pretty damn successful. Also I noted on Internet Movie Database Penn has five films coming out over the next year. But yeah, his career has been "destroyed".
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Christ was Socialist Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 11:10 AM
Response to Reply #173
175. That movie was an ensamble
Edited on Wed May-05-04 11:10 AM by Christ was Socialist
his name should be able to carry independant films, sort of like winona. Thats not an excuse. Holly berry does independant films also. That like saying bernie mac was the cause for the success of oceans 11
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 11:31 AM
Response to Reply #175
176. You're just plain wrong
Penn was nominated for Best Actor and won. His performance is the one that stood out above all others. Unless you're doing a one-man film in the Spalding Gray vein, all films are technically ensembles.

As I said before, Penn doesn't do the Popcorn flicks therefore the box office gross (as if that's important anyway) for his films are always going to be lower than say, 'The Rock', Russell Crowe or Brad Pitt's films. Penn picks his scripts carefully. He's not going to go out and do Lethal Weapon 9 for the money.

As I said, he has five films coming out over the next year which is, by industry standards, quite a bit of work. I guess I fail to see your logic on how an actor who has won one Oscar and been nominated for another and has five films set for release has had his career destroyed. In fact Penn's prestige as an actor continues to grow, and deservedly so. He is an incredible talent.

Incidentally, it's Halle Berry not Holly Berry.



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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 01:43 PM
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186. Thanks for saying that
You nailed it.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 04:48 PM
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140. Add Chloe Sevigny
I remember she said something very icky about Pres. Clinton, coming from her was amusing.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:42 AM
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157. Yes, after seeing both "Kids" and "Party Monster"
I hardly think she's in any position to judge Bill Clinton's morality. Party Monster (with Macauley Culkin and Seth Green) was pretty good, yet slightly disturbing. Kids on the other hand was just plain disturbing. I refer to it as Kiddie Porn Lite.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 07:04 AM
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167. Here's a few more
Brian Dennehy, Andy Garcia, Angie Harmon, and, sadly, Robert Duvall. I applaud those of you who can overlook a person's political views and enjoy their work.. I wish I could. Their politics get in the way of my being able to patronize their movies or TV shows.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:19 AM
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171. Angie Harmon grew up in Highland Park...
(Dallas' Beverly Hills)

No shocker there.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 10:58 AM
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172. I Agree - Unable to Watch Movies Now
with these list of actors - I did watch Shattered Glass however, due to the importance of the movie, I tried to over look that Chloe Sevigny was in it.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 11:10 AM
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174. I'd like some evidence Duvall is a Repug
People keep saying that and thus far have shown no links to back it up. The only thing I can think of is that he visited the troops I belive a year or so ago. But so did Al Franken.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 01:21 PM
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182. NYT magazine
from a few months ago. Long interview and lots of pix from his horse farm. (also featuring his very young girlfriend). Very right-wing. Plus, I caught his bio on A&E. But I don't believe he really turns out as a fundraiser or activist for other conservatives.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 01:37 PM
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183. One of the best actors around
If he was no good, his political leanings would color my view of him, I guess, but in his case I'll still enjoy his work.

Guess he took his Major Kilgore role, from Apocalypse Now, a little too much to heart.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 01:45 PM
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187. I also make an exception
for Duvall. It's so easy to boycott Tom Seleck, James Woods, and Drew Carey.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:59 AM
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200. Do youl have a link to the article or maybe a DU thread discussing it?
It won't color my view on Duvall one way or the other. I've been a lifelong fan. Just curious as to what he actually said.
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durutti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 10:29 PM
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143. Gene Simmons.
n/t
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defconrock Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 10:31 PM
Response to Reply #143
144. great!
now I can't watch half of my favorite movies anymore!
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:18 AM
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169. I'm sure he felt some impact of his own from his voting record...
when a Border's bookstore recently banned him from an in-store appearance because of his rowdy fans.

How does that feel, Gene? Coming back to bite you on the butt is it?

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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 01:56 PM
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189. No! Not Gene! n/t
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 11:13 PM
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150. tippi Hedron
disappointed me greatly when she showed up at a local PSP puke fundraiser
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 09:18 AM
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170. Does her daughter follow in her footsteps?
Melanie Griffith? Anyone know?
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Donkeyboy75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 12:06 AM
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152. I don't support blacklisting of any sort.
Just because they're against us doesn't mean they should be silenced. They should be ridiculed.
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Christ was Socialist Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 06:20 AM
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164. Most People in Porn Are republicans also
This is why i say it is a mental illness. Why the fuck does the left get blamed, when more whores, athiests, drunks, criminals are rethugs then leftists. Don King for crying out loud is a repub


http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?s=77aeee2e66f17c6e45c1f4e3ac2611ea&threadid=109014
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 02:03 AM
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201. Atheists have nothing in common with whores, drunks and criminals...
Edited on Thu May-06-04 02:06 AM by Spider Jerusalem
and only a brain-damaged scum-sucking fuckwit would suggest that they did.
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Claire Beth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 11:55 AM
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180. I try to avoid watching any movies ...
or shows with whom that list is associated.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-04 02:38 PM
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194. Add Wayne Newton and Drew Carey
The Special Forces Association brings entertainers to various military hospitals to cheer up the wounded paratroopers who are there. They invariably get Bo Derek, Drew Carey and Jennifer Love Hewitt.

Also, when they have their conventions they invariably get Wayne Newton to perform at the closing-night banquet. He has a list of Republican entertainers who he can call on to "support the troops." (Support getting them killed is more like it.)

As for country stars, almost all of them are Republicans. It's as required as having grown up poor or appearing on stage in a cowboy hat and boots.
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Christ was Socialist Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:25 AM
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197. PoP Singer JoJo performed at the rnc ocnvention<nT>
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popovfan Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:47 AM
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198. Britney Spears and Beyonce Knowles
Beyonce and her old band Destiny's Child played at the inauguration ceremonies, and she's made it well known that she's a Republican.

Britney.....we looked her up as a joke on the Louisiana state voter file one night at my old internship, and she popped up as a Republican. Plus I do think she publicly defended Bush on the war a while back, CNN I believe.
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Christ was Socialist Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 01:50 AM
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199. I remember that interview
with the gum chewing, that dumb bawd slattern trollop. As for beyonce she grew up a psolied little rich girl. Scumbaggery runs deep, and black republicans deserve the exact treatment they get.
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Finch Donating Member (487 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:16 AM
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210. Your Crazy right?
...what is the problem with Republicans...you can disagree with a persons politics but it does not mean you have to hate the person... all reasonable political beliefs are worthy of respect and this kind of intolerance is what will tear this nation apart... I do not care what an actor or musicians political beliefs are so long as they are good at what they do... Yeah some people will try and use their positions in entertainment for political ends but that is a very small minority... get a grip man, their entitled to their belifes... if you want a one party state then fine! I do not I am quite happy for people to support the republican party, i can understand the appeal, however i respectfully disagree with their political positions, it does not make them a bad person, Look at Earl Warren the biggest single force in pushing Civil Rights forwards he was a Republican...

This kind of rhetoric that you are sprouting off on... is harmful and piosious... In this nation you are free to vote for who you wish and espouse the political positions you wish, i like this system, you clearly do not then please by all means go to Cuba if that is what you want to perhaps Saudi Arabia...
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Christ was Socialist Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:18 AM
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211. so i take it you support the war? if not go to cuba or perhaps sweeden<nt>
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Finch Donating Member (487 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:27 AM
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213. No i did not support the war...
...well i didn't support the war because the basis for it was fraudulent and i thought so at the time... however I'm glad Saddam is gone... that said my position on the war has very little to do with my attack on your rank intolerance of the freedom for other people to take political views that might differ from yours... there is nothing wrong with a person being a republican i disagree but i understand... but i don't believe everyone SHOULD be a democrat or a liberal and forced to believe that...

I am a Democrat because i believe in society and the role of community and that we do owe a dept to more than just ourselves... Republicans generally are more concerned with the individual and many liberals seem to have very contradictory views these days... but that is "by the by"... a person has a basic freedom to believe what they will and i respect Republican views even though i might disagree with some of them, just as i respect socialist, libertarian, Liberal and conservative view points with out necessarily agreeing with them...

I am afraid this is simply intolerance and closed mindedness... "lets not see a film because he's a conservative" sounds kinda like "he a Red lets not watch that film" its McCarthyism pure and simple and a gross form of intolerance... I have Friends and family who are republicans and some who are liberals and i am a moderate Dem and i respect all their views... this kinda fundamentalism on your part is really beyond the pale...
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 02:09 AM
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202. Add Gerald McRaney
He's one of them
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-04 11:33 PM
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206. Thanks for this list
You can be sure I won't go to any of their movies or watch any of their shows. Call it childish if you want.
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Finch Donating Member (487 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:43 AM
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215. Yes its Childish....

...they are entitled to their views as are we... I don’t think that they (most of them) have ever flaunted their beliefs in their movies and tried to impose them... and if all you want are liberal actors imposing liberal beliefs then you are a hypocrite... most actors left and right do not allow their politics to interfere with their "craft" if an actor is a good actor then you should go to see their movies because they can present a powerful or entertaining performance... look at people on the left like Patrick Stewart, John Cusack or Michael Douglas they don’t let their politics get in the way nor do the likes of Bruce Willis, Freddie Prinze Jr., Jennifer Love Hewitt
or Sarah Michelle Geller... so please be a little bit more tolerant this is like... god knows what this is like!... its so... stupid and petty... I'm sorry but that's what it boils down to...
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Finch Donating Member (487 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 04:45 AM
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207. I don't think their all hateful....
...your slur on Arnie is just that...he's about the most liberal republican in the country and added to this he has surprised me and so far done an amazingly good job of getting California "back on track"...

You seem to mix radicals like Heston and Reagan and to a lesser extent Gibson with those who may just lean to the right...

Why is someone hateful if they just happen to be Republicans... this kind of intolerance (on both sides) is not a good thing at all imho... perhaps you should be a little more tolerant of others views... yeah people like Heston are a bit cracked but i wont deny them the right to have those views but the likes of Schwarzenegger are very liberal republicans and have so far proven to be exemplary public servants... while some on your list would seem to never to have been overtly political...

Diversity of opinion is a great thing and most of these people are not hateful at all...Heston would be the big exception in my books... why are you so opposed to diversity and toleration of others views?
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Christ was Socialist Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:24 AM
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212. Well that time has passed. That attitude you have costs dems seats
remember dukakis. Reminds me of Winston Churchills (ugh can't stand him) quote about neville chamberlin. Sometimes you actually have to battle. Ideals are nice, see where it gets you. Remember the nazi's were a few guys in a beer hall at a point. The Bolsheviks were a group of radicals. In fact if i remember 50 million or so diverse opinions will bring about world war 3, hope you can sleep at night knowing you will tolerate that. As for me i actually believe in my positions. Yea i've heard the good republican speech before. Also the good green-neo-nazi benevolence, don't buy it for a second. Point is who you associate with, bush is the head of the party, the party supports bush.
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Finch Donating Member (487 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-04 05:34 AM
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214. If your drawing comparisons between this...
...and appeasement your nuts!

Both Conservatives and Socialists in Europe stood up to Nazism... I passionately believe in my position and the path through which my beliefs are best furthered... this does not mean i wish to crush all discussion and debate... such a course is undemocratic and leads to tryany... and surprisingly i do not believe in tryany... Yes there are extremes which are evil and should be fought but most Republicans are not evil...

Of course I have problems with the GOP leadership thats why I'm a Dem... I also more broadly have problems with the style of political debate in this country it has become so divisive and destructive that compromise and open debate are scorned by both extreems... all i can say is grow up (and this applies to both the left and right) and realize we are united by so much...
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