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Tom_Foolery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 12:50 PM
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Do you STILL feel let down by Gore's decision not to run?
Edited on Mon May-03-04 01:08 PM by Tom_Foolery
I can understand his not wanting to put his family through the process again and his statement that the 2004 campaign would focus on the 2000 fiasco; but hell, the guy is the REAL president!! Don't you think he'd want to kick Bush's ass REALLY GOOD this time? What a great campaign it would've been. Oh well...sigh.

Edit: added a word to text.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 12:52 PM
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1. No, it wouldn't. He was right in not running. He can and is helping
the Democratic cause in other very important ways.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 12:52 PM
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2. I'm over it....
and if you think were fighting battles on Kerry's behalf regarding the Media Ho bullshit, it would have been double if Al Ran.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 12:54 PM
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3. yes
The Gore who was critiquing Bush in the fall of '02 on the war and economy and environment was a stark contrast to the Gore of '00 and if he had kept it up he would have been a formidable general election candidate against Bush.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 12:56 PM
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4. Gore made the right decision
I hate to say it but Gore is a dull candidate and even more wooden than Kerry can be at times.

Gore blew the election in 2000, he should have won it cleanly so there wouldn't even have been a dispute in Florida.
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Tom_Foolery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 01:15 PM
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11. I agree...
that Gore blew the 2000 election by not going after Bush more aggressively and running away from Clinton. I imagine that he's having some regrets about his decision not to run this time. I am 100% behind Kerry. He hasn't hit his stride yet. He is a fine candidate.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 12:56 PM
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5. No.
Gore let me down by not fighting the 2000 selection. For him to run again would have been extremely painful.

Kerry is as fine a man as could run, and he will hack the shrubs back so that we will once again have a glimpse of Democracy. Then it's up to us to keep the field clean.
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dae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 12:58 PM
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6. No I don't. I may have been disappointed once upon a time, but it was
a long long time ago. I'm ready to go after the GOP now. I just want Kerry to pick his VP candidate so the team is together.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 12:59 PM
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7. Yes.
n/t
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rabid_nerd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 01:00 PM
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8. Yes...
VERY Let Down.
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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 01:02 PM
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9. No.
I love Al Gore, but this was his personal choice. And it was made a long time ago.

Fortunately, we had many great choices in his stead in the primaries, and an excellent nominee now.

:-)

--Peter
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 01:08 PM
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10. No, bush would decimate him.......
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 01:18 PM
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12. While I would like to see Al assume the office he won in 2000,
I don't begrudge him the right to do as he likes now. It
is up to us to take back the country, it's not up to Al to
do it for us.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 01:21 PM
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13. I Wish Gore Had Run
but I'm over it. I think Al would have been a better president than any of the candidates running. And I do NOT think he is a boring candidate -- quite the opposite. I also think he would have won this time. But it was his decision.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 01:26 PM
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14. Hell Yes!
Gore told me in 2000 that if I would vote for him that he would NEVER stop fighting for me! Gore Lied! Why I have no clue!
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 01:31 PM
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15. nope
between his lame campaign and then rolling over after he had won he's toast in my book. He betrayed all who voted for him."For the good of the country"? THIS is for the good of the country?
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 08:28 PM
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16. A loser label is not something that you want to start out with
I still can't get over that he didn't put up more of a fight in Florida.
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 08:34 PM
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17. Not at all...
Now they're giving Kerry "the Gore treatment". Gore knew what they would do to him... again! Kerry should've learned a lesson. The great "unbiased" American media chews up Democratic presidential candidates and spits them out!
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 08:40 PM
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18. No I felt relieved for him and us
That ship has sailed.

It would be a little too creepy and tiring to have to go through it all again. I like Al Gore tremendously though.
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 08:43 PM
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19. You are assuming I felt let down in the first place
I'm STILL glad he decided not to run.
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mbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 09:05 PM
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21. I am ashamed of all the Democrats that are still bashing him to this day.
This will make it very hard for me to vote for Kerry. I've been a Democrat all my life, but I am devastated that the party cast him out for a more elite candidate. I may eventually decide to become an Independent or Green because of this. I feel neither party really cares who the people want.
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 09:55 PM
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22. What's the next stage past "let down" -- that's where I am
and part of the reason he is not running is because the Democratic party (the DLC) publicly asked him not to run. It was not his turn. Part of the vague excuses given was that there were others whose turn it was to step up to the plate. Two of the names mentioned were Kerry and Dean. We all know what happened to Dean. We know it was not an accident because we read in The Washington Post it was going to happen. The party elite would stop him.

Kerry is the candidate because the Democratic party greased his wheels. So it's difficult watching Kerry, after listening to so many DU'ers complain Gore ran a terrible campaign, to get excited about Kerry. From so many perspectives, Kerry simply can't compete with Gore. If you tend to disagree with that last statement, let me remind you of Al Gore's remarks condemning a war with Iraq BEFORE the war commenced.

However, there is one small irony. As things stand today, Gore is in a class by himself. Had he chosen to run, and won (which he surely would have), could he have "restored the honor and dignity to the Oval House"? I think not. After Bush*s having occupied the Oval House for four years and recogning the damage he has done, I am not sure that the title of The President of the United States of American will ever garner the respect both domestically and around the world it once did. Clinton might have tarnished the Oval House with semen stains, but the the permanent damage Bush* has done can never be removed with a little paint and cleaning solvents. It is irrevocably harmed. So in that respect, the job is not now good enough for Gore. He can do so much more without the burden of shouldering that title.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 09:57 PM
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23. No
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 10:11 PM
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24. I think you should post his exact statements
I do not believe he decided against running. It was decided for him, by the same traitors who acceded the Selection of GWB. Gore wanted to run, the string pullers did not want him. And the word DEMOCRACY still gets bandied about!
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MadashellLynn Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 10:24 PM
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25. wish he would have run but now
I hope he gets put in the cabinet as secretary to the interior. How great would that be?
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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 10:31 PM
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26. Gore wasn't just a BAD candidate . . .
He was a god awful bad, terrible bad, worse than Dukakis bad, unimaginably bad, Tipper kissingly bad, excruciatingly bad, everything handed to him on a silver platter and throwing it in the sewer bad, stiff board up the butt bad, how could you possibly blow it so big time bad, gut wrenching bad, puke my guts out bad candidate!!!!!

This coming from a lifelong democrat!!!

GO KERRY!!!

Blood is on the hands of our Lady MacBush.

Out damn bush! Out, I say!!

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Tina H Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 10:34 PM
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27. Is there any real difference between Gore and Kerry?
Edited on Mon May-03-04 10:35 PM by Tina H
I mean politically, not as a matter of personal circumstance.
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 10:59 PM
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28. just a little thing called WAR
that is political, right?
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Tina H Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 11:05 PM
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29. are you trying to point out that . . .
Kerry voted for the Iraq War and Gore didn't?

that would make a real difference to me if Gore came out and said that he never would have voted the way Kerry did on the Iraq War. Has Gore done that?
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 11:09 PM
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30. uh, yeah, he has
Gore was the absolute opposite of Kerry on this issue and in his actions. If you cant spot the direct connection between Gore's dismissal in 2000 and 2002, and Kerry's ascension, let me just suggest that there may be one. In retrospect, Gore's endorsement of Dean should tell everyone something about his feelings toward Kerry's candidacy. And Gore was a fine candidate who would have smoked GW again no problem. Let us see how it goes this time, without him...
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Tina H Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 11:15 PM
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32. so is Gore going to vote Kerry or anti-war? N/t
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 11:18 PM
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33. does anyone get that choice this time?
No, the game is rigged. Where have all the voters gone? Long time passing, where have all the voters gone... long time ago.......
(stop me somebody!) where have all the- BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! (back and to the left, back and to the left)
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Tina H Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 11:33 PM
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35. there are anti-war candidates in the race
I repeat my question: Is Gore going to vote anti-war or Democratic Party?

I apologize if you answered this question in your previous post and I somehow missed it.
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 11:36 PM
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36. I think you might have to ask him
But I do believe he is already working for Kerry in some limited fashion. Interesting that you make the point the Democratic Party is not anti-war, as obvious as that is to me.
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Tina H Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 11:38 PM
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38. If Kerry says that he will pull out of Iraq . . .
he makes it much more likely that I will vote for him (or for Gore if Gore were the candidate and made similar hypothetical assurances).
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 11:41 PM
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39. Kerry hasnt though has he?
I dont expect he ever will, and I think that will be his achilles heel. At least they put some sort of principals ahead of pragmatism...
If Edwards is on the ticket, no fuckin way will I pull that lever.
Kerry had best do some fancy talkin by November if he wants the votes of people committed to peace and justice.
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 11:11 PM
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31. Gore 2012!!! (nt)
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 11:27 PM
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34. No. You only get one shot, and Gore blew his.
I voted for Al, and respected him and invested my hopes in him. And he got a half million more votes than the pretender currently in the White House. But Al broke his promised and STOPPED FIGHTING. That did it for me.

You only get one shot.

Bake
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-03-04 11:37 PM
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37. Like Kerry couldnt have backed the CBC?
Gore was hamstrung by Lieberman's crowd who are quite content with Kerry. Gore was a perfect gentleman surrounded by the foulest scoundrels.
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