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finecraft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 09:01 PM
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Abu Ghraib civilian interrogator's diary online
Edited on Sun May-02-04 09:01 PM by finecraft
From Billmon (http://billmon.org) - "Bernhard, a Whiskey Bar reader in Germany, has made a spectacular catch - or cache, I should say, since it comes from the bowels of the Google data base.

What he stumbled across is the diary of one Joe Ryan, a frequent caller and on-air personality at station KSTP, a conservative talk radio station in Minneapolis. More recently, Joe has been serving as a military interrogator at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, and KSTP has been posting his diary on their web site."

http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:XYYOCOWnu_8J:www.am1500.com/personalities/joeryan.htm+KSTP+%22Joe+Ryan%22&hl=en
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orthogonal Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 09:15 PM
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1. Here's a bit of that diary that gives me pause
From that diary link: "CW3 Dan Adkins said to the television, 'kill 1,000 for every hostage killed. No need to discriminate either.'"

Much as I wholeheartedly support our troops, I have to be honest and say that this idea of mass reprisals -- and without discrimination, which apparently means just rounding up insurgents or civilians -- for the deaths of American troops reminded me of this:
In some occupied areas in which the Nazis had to contend with well organized and active guerrilla units, they applied a simple rule: they would massacre one hundred nearby civilians for every German soldier killed; fifty for every one wounded. Often this was a minimum that might be doubled or tripled. They thus killed vast numbers of innocent peasants and townsfolk, possibly as many as 8,000 in Kraguyevats, 1,755 in Kraljevo, and overall 80,000 in Jajinci, to name just in a few places in Yugoslavia alone. Most executions were small in number, but day by day they added up. From an official German war diary: 16 December 1942, "In Belgrade, 8 arrests, 60 Mihailovich supporters shot;" 27 December, "In Belgrade, 11 arrests, 250 Mihailovich supporters shot as retaliation." A German placard from Belgrade announced that the Nazis shot fifty hostages in retaliation for the dynamiting of a bridge. On 25 May 1943 the Nazis shot 150 hostages in Kraljevo; in October they shot 150 hostages in Belgrade; fifty hostages in Belgrade in August 1943; 150 Serbs at Cacak in October; and so on. In Greece, as another example, the Nazis may have burned and destroyed as many as 1,600 villages each with populations of 500 to 1,000 people, no doubt massacring many of the inhabitants beforehand. Overall, the Nazis thus slaughtered hundreds of thousands in Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Greece, and France; and millions overall in Poland and the Soviet Union.


(from: http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NAZIS.CHAP1.HTM)
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 11:24 AM
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2. Back on Google News
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Nordic65 Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 11:56 AM
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3. Civilian interrogator at your service...
Wow, talk about spilling their beans...


#1 - Evidence from the horses mouth. No mention of any military involvement thou.

"I worked the guy from the Ar Ramadi area again tonight. I got home about 3:00am after writing reports and putting together the associations with the others in his group. It was great because my guy knows where the forged citizenship papers are made and by who and the real names and origins of the other detainees captured with him. It is hard for the other guys to lie when I already know all about their backgrounds, but they sure are trying."


#2 - Anyone associated with this prisoner can just log on the net and take the necessary precautions - very unprofessional and bordering on giving information to enemy. Of course he's a civilian and probably cannot be charged with treason.

"My smuggler friend just keeps on talking. I have nick-named him Han Solo since he is a smuggler extraordinaire. I have received information regarding the entire network from start to finish on how foreign fighters are coming into Iraq; who is paying for it; how they communicate; how they get their weapons once here; and how they move to their target locations. This will never make the papers, but it sure is exciting to know the information."


THIS IS BAD!
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