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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 09:46 AM
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Were mutilations of Blackwater security people a payback
Edited on Sun May-02-04 09:58 AM by 9215
for the tortures by the coalition forces?

There are a number of threads at DU on the US armed forces and private security forces torturing Iraqi prisoners. This may partially explain why the resistance to the US occupation is so fanatical with suicide bombings, etc.: the resistance knows what is in store for them under the Bush occupation and it will differ little from what Saddam purportedly did. There are now too many cases of torture being exposed to claim that this was simply a few isolated incidents. Bush has become the new Saddam.

IMO, if this goes unchecked concentration camps are not to far down the road.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=524183&mesg_id=524183

Here is a topci from back in October:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=192572#193487
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 09:48 AM
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1. ??
Uh, no. Concentration camps are not right down the road. Bush is a terrible failure of a leader but you're really reaching.

BTW, it's WERE not WHERE.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 09:49 AM
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3. So what is Gitmo? n/t
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 09:52 AM
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5. Guantanamo Bay, Cuba
It's where the consentration camp is.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 09:57 AM
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7. The official designation.....hee, hee
....is a prison.

Good point.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 10:01 AM
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8. Gitmo is a prison camp
Did you know we've released dozens from Gitmo this year? Did you know that there have been no deaths there?
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 10:06 AM
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9. Did you know we have no way
to verify that Gitmo is "just a prison?"

The military don't allow TV cameras in there and the prisoners are in legal limbo, according to the misadministration. I bet there's more going on there than * or Rumsferatu are willing to admit.

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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 10:10 AM
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10. Did you also know that none of these "prisoners" has
had a trial?


Oh I forgot, this is a Constitution free zone.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 10:12 AM
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11. Even if Gitmos is a "prison"
in the proper sense of that term, that still doesn't let the admin off the hook. Our own prisons are not abuse-free zones, either.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 10:24 AM
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And you know this because ........????
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 09:54 AM
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6. Bush is "a terrible failure as a leader"?
From what we are witnessing he is a "little bit worse than that".


Thanks for the spelling tip. ;)
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 09:49 AM
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2. Connecting the dots.
It sure didn't help prevent them.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 09:52 AM
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4. Or the Next ones.
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 10:24 AM
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12. I agree with the payback angle
There are over 20,000 mercenaries in Iraq. In fact, they are the second largest force there, between the US numbers and British numbers. They are unaccountable and do not have to follow the normal "rules of war". I imagine that many of them are like a bunch of drunken cowboys roaring through Iraqi towns, terrorizing the populace. They poke a stick into a hornet's nest then run behind the regular troops when they Iraqis fight back. I have little doubt that the mercenaries who were mutilated were well known to their attackers as lawless thugs. The rogue motherfuckers make many times the money that our troops do, have better equipment, armored Humvees, body armor, etc. All of the stuff that our troops do not have since * has short changed them. On the other hand, the "contractors", all of whom are * cronies, are working on no-bid, no-oversight, cost-plus contracts. They simply charge the US taxpayers for all of their expenses and overhead, plus a healthy profit. It is no wonder that almost no "reconstruction" has actually been done. The greedy pigs have skimmed off almost all of the money. I wonder how many of our troops have died in revenge attacks actually stirred up by the mercenaries - the Iraqis are unable to tell one occupier from another.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-04 10:55 AM
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13. How much further to concentration camps? 20,000 Iraqi "prisoners"
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