It might be better for us if * wins in November

[Doctor_J]

if JFK wins, he'll inherit an economy on life support, a quagmire in the ME, an irreparable budget, a world on the brink of 8-10 major wars.

He'll have to tackle these problems while fighting a hostile congress, scotus, and media. We'll have to listen to four years of lies, rumors and propaganda about everything from his sex life to his hair to his wife's sexual orientation. Any of Smirk's disasters that doesn't get fixed will be blamed on Kerry.

If, OTOH, * gets elected, all but the most deluded Limbeciles will be able to discern that having the GOP in complete control was pretty much of a disaster. Once we hit bottom, we can begin to climb back up, laying a better foundation as we go.

[Sparkly]

1. No no no

Two words: Supreme Court.

[Supormom]

9. You hit the nail on the head!

I hope the March for Women's Lives woke people up last week-end. We will NOT give up our rights!

[onehandle]

16. Right. Decades of right wing damage. nt

[wuushew]

2. How Naderian

damage control needs to start now.

[nolabels]

17. A vote for nader is a vote for bush

:argh:

[movonne]

3. There will be nothing left.

[coloradodem2005]

4. We might never recover from that.

If Bush gets re-elected, count on a draft, count on the economy getting worse, count on the end of democracy as we have known it and the beginning of the new democracy. The lie. Bush has got to go!!!!!!!!

[TruthIsAll]

5. Very weak logic. Almost treasonous as a matter of fact.

TIA

[never_get_over_it]

6. We won't survive

four more years of this idiot....

[strategery blunder]

7. If shrubbie wins, there will no longer be a United States (nt)

[rwheeler31]

8. sorry the hit bottom

thing kills poor people and hurts any real chance for the middle to rise. Think America not party.

[spooked]

10. Can you imagine how we would look in the eyes of the WORLD

if we "re-elected" Bush?

[MidwestMomma]

27. The workd will never forgive us if we re-elect Bush

This is our chance to show the world that the Bush message is not ours. Everyone must keep this in mind if they feel themselves wavering in their support of Kerry. (I'm including myself.) Thanks for the reminder.

[nefarious]

11. You thought we will bottom out soon, but I have my doubts

Just shudder to think what BushCo Part II has for an unfathomable bottom in foreign policy, the middle and lower classes, the environment, ultra right wingos, inalienable rights... their hit list has no end, and before long we'll be all be living in an 18th century feudal society.

[Nite Owl]

12. No way

A second term with no reelection to worry about? It's just what they want to implement the worse and pack the courts. He didn't win last time if he gets the votes this time the world will turn against us not just him. Americans sort of have a pass for now.

[DivinBreuvage]

13. I go back and forth on this

Short term, yes, Kerry is definitely better. Long term I sometimes feel that it might be better to leave the Republicans in there so THEY can be the ones holding the bag when all the granola finally hits the fan. I am seriously concerned that if Kerry is in there when everything really goes South, it will DESTROY the chances for any Democrat to ever get elected again outside of state or local offices or a few gerrymandered congressional districts.

On the whole, I don't buy the "There will be nothing left" argument. Modern history doesn't support it. On the other hand, I don't doubt that some of those who excercise a great deal of power now WOULD destroy the planet for religious purposes if the conditions were right and they were given the upper hand.

Sorry to be a pessimist, and I am NOT making the "Bush and Kerry are basically the same" argument. I believe a Kerry administration would be quite different and much BETTER than a Bush administration, as long as Kerry is allowed to govern and not hamstrung by fabricated scandals and impeachment proceedings. But in the LONG term I think Kerry is only going to SLOW America's arrival at the same point that Bush is rushing us toward. It's nothing against Kerry, I just think that the situation needs a stronger and more radical hand at the helm than Kerry or even Kucinich would be able to provide. But I don't think middle America is ready for that hand to be applied yet, either.

[meg]

14. NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

JFK will do a better job of getting us back on track. Little W will complete the distruction of this country:

polluted water, air, soil
no military ability
police state - remember Padilla?
complete and total corruption - government for business cronies

[Minstrel Boy]

15. "Once we hit bottom"

Do you realize how far the US may fall, and how hard it may hit? And how many more tens of thousands in God knows how many lands will be put to death for a virulent ideology? And Bush, if he continues, will one day stumble across the tripwire of nuclear powers, which won't forever indulge America's imperial encirclement.

If Bush is elected, reach for the calender and circle doomsday.

[RC]

18. JFK was assassinated on November 22, 1963

Do you mean John Kerry?

[cureautismnow]

19. If Shrub Steals Another One, Kiss Mankind Goodbye?

Another 4 years sans the threat of being fired in a future November could lead to one dreadful culmination --> :nuke:

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

20. NO.

The machinery of this government is moving us WAY TOO RAPIDLY towards fascism, censorship, loss of freedoms. That machinery (Bush/Cheney/Rove/Rummy/Wolfowitz etc.) needs to be derailed and smashed ASAP. I agree that we may be hamstrung by economy/Iraq problems inherited by Kerry and he could be a one termer etc. but we MUST stop this machinery and SMASH it NOW.

[Wapsie B]

21. Kerry will surely be given

the same treatment that Carter and Clinton got, even more so. The entire repug modis operandi will be to neutralize Kerry and set up someone like Jethro for '08.

[supernova]

22. Curb your toungue, Knave!

:P Reference to an old Smothers Brothers joke.

There's never a good time to dismantle the wickedness. And there's never a time like the present. You are erroneously assuming that * still has a bottom to hit.

I don't.

[No2W2004]

23. Getting shrub out isn't enough

PNAC must be smashed and the neocons must be put on trial in front of the whole world to answer for their crimes.

Otherwise, they'll be back just like the filthy cockroaches they are.

[LoZoccolo]

24. He's just gotta make it clear...

...that his job is first to fix all this stuff. But when you think about it, Clinton was able to turn things around enough to get re-elected...but then again, he started with a Democratic congress. We'll see, I guess.

[William Seger]

25. Why do you think "climbing back up" would be easier 4 years from now?

If * get four more years, what kind of bloody hell mess will the next president inherit? No offense, but your argument makes absolutely no sense.

[LibertyorDeath]

26. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[T Bone]

28. It will be bad no matter who wins

Bush has benefitted from and inflicted even more grave structural damage to our political and economic system and to our foreign relations. It will be a very bad situation for Kerry to walk into, but better than the alternative. That is, Bush being re-installed for another four years that he won't finish. Mark my words. It will be worse if Bush 'wins', and he won't finish the next four years.

Think Nixon or worse, at best.

[BattyDem]

29. If JFK wins ...

at least he'll spend the next four years trying to undo the damage. If Bush* wins, he'll spend the next four years making the damage undo-able.

[HEyHEY]

30. Those problems will need to be dealt with by a democrat sooner or later

Sooner, better than later

[Sparkle]

31. We'll just have to put up with the right wing attacks.

Hell, we did it for 8 years with Clinton. The republicans don't realize how they have prepared us liberals and Democrats to take their bullshit.

[Change has come]

32. It's about the Judges.

Can you imagine the damage if * is able to nominate TWO right-wing judges to the Supreme Court??

[BattyDem]

33. If that happens ...

I say that the next Democrat to win the White House should launch an investigation into the 2000 election, specifically Florida. We all know it was crooked ... it shouldn't be too difficult to prove with a "real" investigation. Once it is proven, or at the very least, once there is enough strong circumstantial evidence to get the country riled-up about it, we demand that all judges appointed by Bush* be removed from the bench because he lost the election and had no legal right to appoint any of them in the first place.

I know it's a long shot, but it's nice to dream. :hippie:

[maggrwaggr]

34. that is THE most disgusting headline on DU i have ever seen

You should be ashamed of yourself for even thinking such a thing.

I'm not kidding.

I am disgusted anyone would think that.

Bush could get us into World War III between now and January. How many people are gonna die because he's in office until January?

I have many choice words for you, and they're remaining untyped.

[Borgnine]

35. Sorry...

...but we haven't even begun to fathom what these thugs can do. They've been the most vile, corrupt, right-wing extremist administration this country has ever seen, and they've still been playing it safe for re-(s)election.

If they don't have that over their heads anymore, the shit is going to fly, and we're going to die.

[VolcanoJen]

36. One Guess on who really has the WMD.

Give up?? BUSH.

If Bush gets re-selected, I'm not particularly looking forward to roasting weenies by the yellow-orange nuclear glow.

I'll take the rumors and innuendo of a Kerry presidency, thank you very much. I really just want to live...