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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 07:24 AM
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Brit torturers -- photos and stories
A HOODED Iraqi captive is beaten by British soldiers before being thrown from a moving truck and left to die.

The prisoner, aged 18-20, begged for mercy as he was battered with rifle butts and batons in the head and groin, was kicked, stamped and urinated on, and had a gun barrel forced into his mouth.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/printable_version.cfm?method=printable_version_mirror&objectid=14199634&siteid=50143
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 07:27 AM
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1. Lord, the Brits too?!
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 08:39 AM
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6. Of course the Brits...
they have no special decency about them.

Any military is capable of unspeakable crimes. I've read accounts about how young soldiers in the Salvadorean death squads were at first repulsed, but then became used to the killing, some even ended up enjoying it. Rarely in war have missions been clear enough to maintain a basic moral compass, and such stories are legion. Atrocities are icing on the cake of war.

The military is just one of many closed societies where there is "us" and "them." "Them" are dehumanized, and anything can happen.

I expect, with rather heavy heart, news of the "rape rooms" reopening.

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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 07:29 AM
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2. barbarism is the new chic
the enemy must be debased and humiliated utterly. we must revel in the brutality, we are the champions of the world. nazis must not be sentimental going about the business of world domination. and they must dress sharply and attend operas when not shoving rifle barrels into the mouths of p.o.w.'s
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 07:40 AM
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3. What have we become?
"...Both men fear the situation is worsening , with UK troops now seen as the enemy, rather than liberators.

One said: "I can't believe it has taken the Iraqis so long to fight back. If it had been me or my family, I'd have retaliated straightaway.

"They've just got f****d around so much. You can't go in now, and say 'Right, let's forget about what has happened and start again'...."

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sushi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 08:19 AM
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4. Shocking!
I thought the coalition represented civilized societies, and are introducing civilized western ways to Iraqis.
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 09:28 AM
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9. I hope your remarks needed that <sarcasm>
item there, or you are in the wrong place.

Please explain.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 08:25 AM
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5. Your tax dollars winning hearts and minds!
These people work for you and me?
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 09:17 AM
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7. here's some photos (CAUTION: graphic)


BUTT IN GROIN: A rifle is cruelly jabbed in the young man's groin as his eight-hour nightmare goes on



URINATED ON: A British soldier urinates on an Iraqi prisoner in a vile display of abuse. The captive was beaten and hurled from a moving truck. Army chiefs are investigating.


The prisoner, aged 18-20, begged for mercy as he was battered with rifle butts and batons in the head and groin, was kicked, stamped and urinated on, and had a gun barrel forced into his mouth.

After an EIGHT-HOUR ordeal, he was left barely conscious and close to death. Bleeding and vomiting and with a broken jaw and missing teeth, he was driven from a Basra camp and hurled off the truck. No one knows if he lived or died.

But, it is claimed, officers turned a blind eye. One of the soldiers said: "Basically this guy was dying as he couldn't take any more. An officer came down. It was 'Get rid of him - I haven't seen him'. The paperwork gets ripped. So they threw him out, still with a bag on his head."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/printable_version.cfm?method=printable_version_mirror&objectid=14199634&siteid=50143
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Devils Advocate NZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-04 09:25 AM
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8. It seems that EVERY accusation has turned out to be true!
Remember a long time ago, there was an accusation that some Iraqis had been killed by being thrown off a bridge? Check this out:

"We had one who fought back. I thought 'Don't do that', it's the worst thing you can do. He got such a kicking. You could hear your mate's boots hitting this lad's spine.

"One of the lads broke his wrist on a prisoner's head. Another nearly broke his foot, kicking him. We're not helping ourselves out here. We're never going to get the Iraqis on our side. We're fighting a losing war."

Soldier B claimed after the alleged September beating troops were told to destroy incriminating evidence.

He said: "We got a warning, saying the Military Police had found a video of people throwing prisoners off a bridge. It wasn't 'Don't do it' or 'Stop it'. It was 'Get rid of it.' "


So that is yet another claim made by the Iraqis that has turned out to be true. As far as I am concerned most of the US media, and the entire US government - many Dems included - are war criminals.
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