Pennsylvania, Please 'splain!

[UTUSN]

1- Repuke primary tomorrow - weird SPECTER (what a name), single-bulleteer -----------vs a total wingnutter

2- If wingnutter TOOMY wins, our great Dem RENDELL has to spend all his time helping the Dem, meaning RENDELL is out of the game for Dem VP.

3- PA has a bejeezus senator in place, weirdnut SANTOTUS.

4- Shrub's string-pullers are backing SPECTER??????

But far be it from me to criticize - my damned state has TWO wingnut senators.

[liberalhistorian]

1. I hear ya, I'm in Ohio

and we have TWO wingnut senators, a wingnut governor, and a totally wacked-out caveman-level wingnut legislature. Sometimes I don't know how I make it through the day in this state!

[NightTrain]

14. You need to move to Connecticut, sweetie!

We do have a repuke governor, but it's looking like he's on his way out due to a possible impeachment over years of corrupt practices and behavior. Plus, the legislature is Dem-controlled, while at least one of our two senators, Chris Dodd, is a pretty good guy. Hell, even Lieberman is OK on some issues (like the environment)!

Finally, my representative to Congress, John Larson, has a lot of good points, as well (such as the mailing I get three to four times a year, inviting me to attend his Hartford-area town hall meetings).

[MikeG]

2. We have two liberal cities, Pittsburgh and Philadelphia.

Everywhere else is freeperland. We have had one Democratic senator, Harris Wofford, in decades. The NRA and the abortion issue rule this state. Even in Pittsburgh, the overwhelmingly large senior vote skews Republican even though nominally Democratic. Remember Casey, a Democrat, was governor, and was pro-life.

This is also the home base for the evil Richard Mellon Scaife.

[napi21]

4. In Pa you can only vote in the Primary where you are

registered I know, but can you post updates here tomorrow on early results of the voting? I lived a long time in Pgh, and I want Spector to loose. Not that I have a big problem with him, but since Bush wants him in so bad, Toomy must be a problem.

I'm sure here in Ga. I'm not going to hear much about vothing in PA.

[MikeG]

6. I used to call Rick Santorum Senator Weinerhead.

If you look at his head long enough you'll notice the resemblance.

[October]

15. Wasn't it Carville who said of PA...

Philly on the eastern side, Pittsburgh on the west, and "Alabama" in between...(Carville)

Praphrasing of course.

In our defense, we PA'ers usually vote Democratic in national elections.

Still, it is high time we had a decent senator. Vote Hoeffel!

[tigereye]

3. our state is nuts (well some aspects of it)

* is afraid that Toomey will lose to said Dem, thereby causing him to lost control of the Senate. ALso * is determined to get PA votes and make our blue state a red one. Gross. Personally I think Rendell should have waited and run against Santorum -- no one has heard of Hoeffel, the Dem, except insiders. At least Specter is somewhat moderate and pro-choice, if somewhat bizarre, and not a total fascist like Santorum.

[Morning Dew]

9. They LOVE Toomey

in Freeperville - they think Arlen Specter is just too left wing.

They're even pissy about Shrub supporting Specter.

[tigereye]

11. well they can just piss off

we need some sane politicians in our state!

[Lugnut]

5. Don't blame me.

I didn't vote for either Arlen or Rickypuke. I'm just as stuck with them as you are with yours. I'll be casting my vote for Joe Hoeffel tomorrow. :)

I wish this bleepin state Dem party could find somebody who can defeat Rickypuke. He makes my skin crawl.

[tigereye]

12. yes yes and yes

I sent money to Rick's last oponent.. my brother used to work for the Dem, but there was no support to be had from the state. I had to hold my breath and write the check since that Dem was not particularly liberal. Sigh, I wish that the PA Dem party would get their stuff together, too!

[k in IA]

7. I heard that part about Rendell not being in the running for VP

if Toomy wins the primary on CNN (I think) today.

Why???

I don't get that at all. Why does that effect Rendell as a potential VP? Wouldn't having a homestate guy as VP candidate perhaps increase the Dem voting in the state and then maybe help the Dem candidate for Senate. Why do they think Rendell would have to spend the rest of the election year running around campaigning for whoever it is that will be the Dem candidate?

[UTUSN]

8. Hopefully, the Media Whores Are Always Wrong n/t

[markses]

10. Bush must back Spector for several reasons

1. The pretentions of the conservative wing notwithstanding, PA will probably go Kerry this year. The only hope Bush has for putting PA into the GOP column is a large "safety" vote from the suburbs of Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, and from a good number of union folks farther out. Spector is well-liked by the PA unions, especially in the Pittsburgh area, such that many union folks in PA don't even feel like they have to hold their nose to vote for him. He lends them an ear, in any case. many of these smae types of folks won't mind doing a GOP ticket vote if Spector is there and they are hohum about Bush. These same folks will be incensed if Toomey is running on a ticket with Bush, as will a host of urbanites and suburbanites who despise Toomey's socially conservative positions.

2. Democrats may take the Senate seat if up against Toomey. The GOpers are fond of saying that Toomey has consistently won large margins in his home district, "traditionally Dem," as they see it (in 2002 he trounced his dDem opponent by 25,000 votes of less than 175,000 total cast). This is half-true - it is in fact one of the most difficult to read districts in the country (it voted for Gore in 2000 at the same time that it elected Toomey to a second term). Toomey also has never run against an incumbent in that district, the previous 3-term Democrat Paul McHale (who won by only 400 votes in his 1994 re-election bid) having given up his seat. The conservative GOPers want to generalize Toomey's success in the 15th to all of PA, but this is a very strange operation indeed, given the strange make-up of his district (Allentown, etc.) - the tension between developing white-collar and traditional blue collar populations. The conservative s delusion that Toomey's 15th District success can be applied to the whole state is clearly viewed as a delusion by the Bush campaign.

Since they assume that the conservatives will vote for Bush anyway, the decision to back Spector is geared toward the moderates and sometime GOP voters (gun folks who are also union folks, really).

[UTUSN]

13. Thanks - Sounds Like TOOMEY Is Flash-'o-the-Pan n/t