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Dems Will Win (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:06 PM Original message |
Fallujah predicted to be the biggest urban battle since Hue, TET OFFENSIVE |
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Edgewater_Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
1. No No -- Dear God, No |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
2. this won't create thousands of new terrorists |
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porkrind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
3. OMG! The whole world will hate us if we do this! |
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maggrwaggr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 11:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
46. too late! they hate us now! |
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alittlelark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
4. Are they really that evil............. |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
5. America's Nanking? |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. That is a horrible comparison! |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. same thing the imperial japanese said |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:32 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Say one thing you expect our troops to do in Fallujah |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:37 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. MURDER INOCENT CIVILIANS INDISCRIMATELY. hows that? |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:42 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. I do not think that our troops will go out there thinking |
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Redleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:48 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. I agree but what do I know, having only served in combat arms for |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. oh, so it depends on what your thinking before you kill'em |
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Redleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:55 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Sure it matter what your intentions are. |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:56 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. stealing their natural oil resources doesn't seem to help our case |
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Redleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 11:00 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. I agree but I am talking about the intentions of the soldiers, not of Bush |
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Arianrhod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 12:08 AM Response to Reply #32 |
48. "We don't simply judge right and wrong by the consequences of our action." |
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Redleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 11:50 AM Response to Reply #48 |
68. The consequences are only part of how we judge ethicality. |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 11:00 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. That's totally rediculous. |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 11:08 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. we are STEALING THEIR RESOURCES... hello |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 11:17 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Could you point me at those sources? |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 08:47 AM Response to Reply #42 |
60. here you go... |
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Athame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 11:48 AM Response to Reply #28 |
67. and so it goes... |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 02:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
74. Here's the problem |
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Malva Zebrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 03:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
86. bbut didn't shock and awe do exactly that? |
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doni_georgia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:51 PM Response to Reply #14 |
29. But we've already been killing unarmed women and children |
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ConcernedCanuk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 11:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
40. "If the US kills 10,000 civilians then we'll talk" - *ahem* - they did |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 02:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
72. Here's a problem though |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 03:46 PM Response to Reply #72 |
83. The Vietcong problem |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 04:31 PM Response to Reply #83 |
90. The revolutionary swims in the sea of the people |
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Saeba (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 01:30 AM Response to Reply #9 |
55. Very pertinent comparison, sadly… |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 08:37 AM Response to Reply #55 |
59. thank you for sharing |
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Algorem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 03:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
81. Pentagon has strictly ruled out beheading contests. |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 03:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
87. You may be right, but that is small comfort |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. OMG, I just finished watching Dr. Strangelove an hour ago. |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:29 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. at least in the movie they had a sane president |
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Redleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. That's a bit of an overstatement, isn't it? |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:30 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. don't know |
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KerryThatWeight (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. The rape scenario won't happen on behalf of American troops |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:39 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. shoot, our own women are getting raped |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:45 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Deleted message |
slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:47 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. there are incidents of rape WITHIN the US Army... |
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Redleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Just as there are in the civilian population. |
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troublemaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. Is this a joke? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:53 PM Response to Reply #15 |
30. Okinawa. Peacetime. |
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doni_georgia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
35. War has the real capacity to turn normal people into animals |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 11:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
45. Deleted message |
KerryThatWeight (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 12:14 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. It depends on your altitude |
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bobbieinok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 11:25 AM Response to Reply #15 |
65. there's documentation some US soldiers raped in VN - see Tiger Force |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 11:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
43. Spare us the hyperbole. |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 08:51 AM Response to Reply #43 |
61. facts on the ground |
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dbt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
6. I live in a Rogue Nation |
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KerryThatWeight (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
13. Pray they let the innocents out first |
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Mike Niendorff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
26. slight problem: |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 04:18 PM Response to Reply #13 |
88. They won't. |
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name not needed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
16. God Help Us All... |
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caledesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 11:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
44. As Jim Morrison sang in the song Five to One |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 02:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
77. They weren't even soldiers |
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doni_georgia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
18. If they do this it will be a holy war for real |
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Dems Will Win (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. After we wipe out Fallujah, Najef will become an armed camp |
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doni_georgia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:54 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Yep Najef is a Shia holy city - I don't even want to think about this. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 12:29 AM Response to Reply #25 |
52. Even Bush isn't stupid enough to attack Najaf |
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doni_georgia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 11:18 AM Response to Reply #52 |
64. How do explain this news story from today??? |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 02:29 PM Response to Reply #64 |
78. Oh shit |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 02:40 PM Response to Reply #64 |
80. It looks like an incursion into the suburbs |
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mountainvue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 11:01 PM Response to Reply #18 |
38. Or he thinks if he loses he's going out with guns a |
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Dems Will Win (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 11:05 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. What Bush said in NYT |
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uhhuh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 01:43 AM Response to Reply #39 |
56. You see, a free society will be a peaceful society. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 08:53 AM Response to Reply #39 |
62. Bush* is a thug and a killer |
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mountainvue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-24-04 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
33. Sickening. |
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Mike Niendorff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
47. A question I can't seem to shake: |
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thebigidea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 12:22 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. what's especially interesting... |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 12:38 AM Response to Reply #47 |
53. It seems like every decision Bremer and BushCo have made |
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Arianrhod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 12:38 AM Response to Reply #47 |
54. I agree in principle with your assessment |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 11:55 AM Response to Reply #47 |
70. I think we have a winner |
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bigbillhaywood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
51. Ah yes, the unmistakable fiery rhetoric of a Trotskyist website |
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Character Assassin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 01:43 AM Response to Original message |
57. What a steaming pile |
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thebigidea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 11:52 AM Response to Reply #57 |
69. I take it you believe the "Coalition Provisional Authority" 100%, eh? |
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Character Assassin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 02:04 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Bankrupt of logic |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 02:20 PM Response to Reply #69 |
75. When listening to propaganda... |
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bigbillhaywood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 03:48 PM Response to Reply #75 |
84. It's all propaganda, I like it better when it's not dressed up as |
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Arbustosux (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 02:00 AM Response to Original message |
58. FOR THE LAST TIME. Iraq is NOT Viet Nam!!! |
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Dems Will Win (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 10:57 AM Response to Reply #58 |
63. It is not Vietnam |
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ulTRAX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 03:46 PM Response to Reply #58 |
82. you're correct |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 03:51 PM Response to Reply #58 |
85. The lies are the same |
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Arbustosux (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 04:30 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. and thats coming |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
66. Guernica - the UN will have to paint another wall |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
73. The name Al-Fallujah |
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WVhill (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
76. I doubt it. |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 02:36 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. sounds like the conventional wisom |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 04:35 PM Response to Reply #76 |
91. Here's something to think about |
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WVhill (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-25-04 08:11 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. Here's something else. |
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