Question about the Log Cabin Republicans...

[Claire Beth]

Has anyone heard who they are supporting in the election?

[TrogL]

1. So far the news is about whom they're having trouble supporting

Which is just about every Republican on the block

[Bertha Venation]

2. at their convention last week

they debated this question, and the last I heard, they hadn't decided anything but that they probably could not endorse Bush. I doubt they will endorse anyone.

[jtb33]

3. What are "Log Cabin Republicans"?

?

[ronnykmarshall]

4. A group of self hating

white gay men.

[Claire Beth]

11. a group of gays who support republicans n/t

[pinto]

5. they have "postponed" an endorsement until around the conventions...

while putting out a criticism (!) of Bush. I suspect they are looking for a response from the RNC or the Bush campaign.

[lastknowngood]

6. why does anyone care about these masochists anyway

n/t

[dr.strangelove]

7. I am always interested in what the LCR post.

How can anyone not be. This is a group of men who pledge support to a group who openly hates them and wants them evicted from the country, planet and probably life in general. I love to read their PR releases try to rationalize support for candidates whose first agenda is to make their very existence illegal.

[nonconformist]

8. It's so ironic isn't it?

It's the equivalent of a black chapter of the KKK.

Amazing.

[Claire Beth]

9. I care about a LOT of people....

but it was just a question.

[TeeYiYi]

13. Because they represent . . .

. . . 25% of the gay vote or one million votes. Over one million gays voted for Bush/Cheney in 2000 which obviously made a huge difference in the final tally.

TYY

[Dookus]

14. Why on earth would you believe their numbers?

they represent almost NO ONE! They had fewer than 400 people at their NATIONAL convention, and that was THREE TIMES more than usual.

Their membership nationwide is probably less than 10,000 - however, they won't even divulge the number because it's embarassingly low.

No... the LCR do NOT represent a million voters. They throw that statistic around, but I've never seen any corroboration for it.

[TeeYiYi]

17. Maybe my post was confusing . . .

I didn't mean that one million Log Cabin Republicans voted for Bush. I don't have any idea what the LCR membership claims to be. What I meant to say was that 25% of the gay American vote is Republican. I don't think that number is a difficult one to wrap your mind around when you consider that 25% is less than the typical party line division which hovers around 50/50 in America. It just defies logic to suggest that all gays are democrats. They're not. So, however many gays and lesbians you think there are in America . . . 25% of that figure are swing voters and at risk of voting for Bush again. Right now the LCRs are turning against the Bush vote in 2004. Regardless of how embarrassingly low their membership is, their opinions will affect what 25% of all gays and lesbians in America decide to do with their vote.

http://www.stonewallaustin.org/library/2000/news/2000-1201-news-ElectionBlameGame.htm

TYY

[Iceburg]

15. Fiction Alert!

That 25 % represents "self-declared" gays on exit polls
according to http://www.logcabincolumbus.org/VOTE%20ANALYSIS.htm

snip
According to Voter News Service, 4% of all voters in 2000 identified themselves as gay. Since 1996 this number has fluctuated between 4 and 5%. It is likely that the number is larger, as some gays would decline to identify themselves to pollsters. Four percent of the total vote this year translates into slightly more than 4 million voters.

But wait it gets more interesting...

Voter News Service Dismantled

Monday, January 13th 2003
NEW YORK -- Citing reporting failures in the last two elections, the six major news organizations that underwrite the Voter News Service announced on Monday they are disbanding the consortium they created to count votes and conduct surveys on Election Day.

Given the expense of collecting polling data from precincts across the country, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, Fox News Channel and The Associated Press said they were considering other options for sharing vote counts and exit surveys. But they left no doubt that it will no longer be VNS.

The announcement follows two spectacular failures in 2002 and 2000. Faulty information from VNS twice led television network executives to incorrectly declare a winner in the presidential race in Florida. Given the number of spoiled ballots in the Florida count, VNS officials defended their 2000 estimates as accurate blaming shoddy vote tallies that invalidated thousands of ballots.
more ...
http://www.datalounge.com/datalounge/news/record.html?record=20464
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I've been gay, proud and very politically active for 34 of my 50 years and I've yet to meet a gay that has been asked to self-declare at a poll. That aside, I would not be surprised to find that 10% of the voting (not voter-eligible) population is gay and very liberal.

[BillZBubb]

10. Why waste time of those losers?

Any gay who supports the Republican party in any way has serious self loathing issues.

They are beyond hope and help.

[theHandpuppet]

12. Their page for the 2004 elections....

http://www.logcabin.org/logcabin/elections_2004.html

It should be interesting to see what these numbskulls have to say after the GOP Convention.

[cheezus]

16. some fundies are dems, some gays are republicans

although I think the log cabin republicans are more of the low taxes, low social services, small government, states-rights kind of republicans.

[mitchum]

18. Cruising for $$$ is all they're about