CSPAN -- 9:30 ET Tues -- Wolfowitz, Grossman, & Myers on Iraq/Afghanistan

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Military Operations in Afghanistan and Iraq
Armed Services
Washington, District of Columbia (United States)
ID: 181430 - 04/20/2004 - 3:00 - No Sale



Wolfowitz, Paul, Deputy Secretary, Department of Defense
Grossman, Marc, Undersecretary, Department of State, Political Affairs
Myers, Richard, Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff

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1. Starting now

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2. I still think Warner reminds me of Bela Lugosi

No offense to Bela, of course.

[Skidmore]

3. Nah, Warner is that tall guy

with the killer spheres in the Phantasm movies.

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4. Good old Angus Scrimm

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

5. john warner - once voted by his senate colleagues

to be the dumbest senator. this was several years ago and it was in the WaPoo style section in the early edition and rermoved in the final edition.

[Cocoa]

38. that must have been before Zell Miller was there

Zell makes Warner look like Stephen Hawkings.

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6. Shock!

Warner actually wants to hear about the growing drug problem in Afghanistan.

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7. Wolfowitz's opening statements now....

Man, that guy just turns my stomach.

[Skidmore]

8. He so melodramatic ...

Wolfie and Perle are so sure that they and their half-baked ideology is all that stands between the world and salvation. How do people become so sure of themselves that they claim the decision of life or death over others as a right?

[JHB]

13. Why are some people convinced they are psychic?

They've spent their careers feeding Manichean, apocalyptic scary stories to receptive people in the right places, in areas where it's usually impossible to immediately prove them wrong.

[Norquist Nemesis]

18. Ironic they're bleeding heart liberals

when it comes to the case of Iraq. I'm sick of hearing "for 35 years blah blah blah" "brutal regime" blah blah "rape rooms" blah "mass graves".

Uh... Mr. Protege of the Prince of Darkness: WHERE ARE THE WMD???

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

9. it's hard to tell if wolfowitz is talking about

saddam or bush.

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10. He can't confirm it

But after several events where we finally took back towns, guess what?

We were greeted as liberators.

Yeah, I believe you, Wolfie. You're the one who said we'd be greeted with flowers before we went in.

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11. Levin is really going after Wolfie

Lots of "I don't remembers."

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12. Did I hear Wolfie right?

Did he REALLY say (and I'm paraphrasing here), "If they'd stop thinking of themselves as being 'occupied', the transition would be a lot smoother..."?????

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14. Yep

That's almost exactly what he said.

Kennedy up now. Time for the popcorn!

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15. Wolfie is actually trying to chide Kennedy

You can tell that Kennedy is getting short-fused.

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16. I was afraid of that

It sounds too much like the old "advice" given to rape victims. Damn shame those ungrateful furriners won't think what we want them to think... :grr:

[JHB]

17. I can't count how many times I've heard Wolfy described as brilliant...

...usually in reference to some paper he wrote.

Now we know the key to it: when he writes papers, he gets to control what the opposition says. Doesn't real life suck the way people won't follow your nice, neat script, Wolfy?

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19. Oh, fun

Lieberman.

[Skidmore]

20. Kinda like getting a root canal without an anasthetic... nt

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24. He just basically smeared anyone who called for withdraw is

"irresponsible", I think it was.

There's a growing consensus, according to Lieberman, that the entire country is uniting behind the Iraq War.

[Skidmore]

25. Joe musta found a good batch of

ditch weed somewhere. Sometimes I wonder where he gets his information.

[Mari333]

22. he isnt speaking for me! what an asshole!!! hes so full of shit!!

bring the troops home now you asshole

[BlueEyedSon]

21. Lieberman is an idiot

"I am heartened (about conditions in Iraq)"

"We are all moving in the same direction (no need to scrutinize the decisions that got us here)"

Too bad Kerry will kill the anti-Iraq-war movement....

[Mari333]

23. Its Dems like this moron that ruin the party

fucking loser.

[Norquist Nemesis]

Exactly! He was never on my list to vote for

as the next President. Just listening to him re-confirms the reasons why. :puke:

Now, Wolfie's groveling and thanking him. Maybe he'll give him a standing ovation to! Bastards!!!

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26. Lieberman spent more time praising Bush and the war

than moving on to questions.

:grr:

[BlueEyedSon]

28. Can we kick him and Zell Miller out of the party?

PLEASE???

[BlueEyedSon]

27. Can you say QUAGMIRE????

Our "allies" in the "coalition" are leaving the sinking ship.

The trend is that the situation is getting MORE deadly to US troops/mercs/contractors.

There is no one to hand the gov't over to.

There is no Exit strategy.

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29. I have an exit strategy!

Take Perle, Wolfy, Cheney, Condy, Feith, every current and former "Fellow" of the AEI, and any other neocons we can yank from under their rocks, issue them BDU's, full kit, rifle and ammo, let them handle the situation personally, and everyone else EXIT.

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30. Have to understand where Lieberman is coming from

He and many of the other neocons have dreams of freeing Israel from terrorism, and somehow they view Iraq as the key to bringing that about. I'm not exactly sure how they get from point A to point B on this, but that's the theory. They all talk about how Iraq will be "transformational" and how the seed of democracy they plant there will spread and sprout with others. And they're keeping the illusion alive.

It's also interesting to see how they've adopted so many of the tactics the Israelis have used in their occupied territories. I know many people warned that Iraq would turn into our own huge West Bank, but I don't think many people realized how true that would be.

[BlueEyedSon]

32. The they need to say THAT. This is about Israel's security

not the US.

Is is not Treason to hold another country's interests over one's own?

[BlueEyedSon]

31. Reed is kicking ass on Wolf right now

[Mari333]

33. Warner is a prick, and cut him off

now we have to listen to wolfowitz spin?????? fuck this !! Im sick of no justice, I am sick and disgusted with NO justice being done to these assholes

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34. Liz Taylor must have been on heavy duty drugs to stomach

that prick.

[democrank]

35. Another shining example of

a total waste of time and energy. This is the Armed Services Committee ,but let`s just use the questioning time to refute what Kerry said over the weekend? And by the way, disagreeing with Wolfowitz is the same thing as not supporting our troops. I am so fed up.

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36. Don't forget the old excuse of the Bush Administration

not turning over papers that have been asked for by months by the Democrats. I don't know how much time has been wasted on that one today.

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37. Warner's big thing today is changing the terminology

He's pushing that politicians start using the term "limited sovereignty" instead of of "sovereignty" for the Iraq situation.