Woodward on with Prince Badar LIVE 9:42 Bombshell!!! It's over.

[Renew Deal]

Bandar says it's all true except he was told that Bush did not make a decision.

EDIT:
Bandar said that the story about the war plan is true. (meaning he saw the secret maps?) Bandar felt the Bush regime did not make a decision, but he felt they were going to do it.

Woodward questioned him on it, but he couldn't nail it down.

[CatWoman]

1. war mongers and the wars that they monger

[tridim]

2. Bandar is well coached for sure

Parsing words. Woodward is contradicting his story.

Now he's blaming Clinton. Says he also wanted to price fix oil from SA. BS.

[blm]

35. Even brought up Carter's "malaise"......OMG

are we supposed to believe he thought that one up on his own?

[Renew Deal]

3. Bandar wasn't sure, but he thought they were going to do it.

But he believed it. Bandar thought it wasn't a bluff.

[jburton]

4. I couldn't believe Bandar actually said that

Basically he just folded under Woodward.

[unblock]

5. uh, bush did not make what decision?

"it's all true" please be more vague, i think i might know what you're talking about.

[Renew Deal]

8. Woodwards story is true but...

he didn't think the administation was convinced to go to war.

[Renew Deal]

6. Bandar hoped oil prices would stay low.

Also says Clinton, Carter asked to keep oil prices down.

We want any predient in office to be reelected, but it's not their choice.

[CatWoman]

7. Woodward ain't letting Bandar get away with his lies

[maddezmom]

10. amazing Bandar called in

"what's going on here?" says Woodward...and then goes on about tapes. He has the goods...not to say he's on our side, but I trust him on this one.

[Renew Deal]

11. Does Woodward have the tapes?

[maddezmom]

13. he seems to have tapes of the interviews

he just keeps bringing them up...he's sure of himself.

[Catshrink]

47. Last night on 60 Minutes Mike Wallace said they'd listened

to the tapes to verify their authenticity.....

[enough]

9. Wait -- more detail please!

He said "It's all true" -- what exactly is "all true"

What was the context?

[kera]

21. it was about

WMD when asked at first why we did not find them

have you mislead the country the chimp saide NO

have you been been mislead? chimp response NO

and a thierd question I dont recall NO

there after, the journalist insisted and pointed out that it got to be an explanation

then the chimp answered true true true for the three questions

[tridim]

12. Woodward: That goes into the hall of fame

of fishy explainations. !!!

[maddezmom]

15. "Congratulations Bandar"

:)

[greenman3610]

16. repeats or video

any repeats or video available online?

[Renew Deal]

14. Kick for edits.

[PCIntern]

17. Larry's losing his marbles completely...

He tried to cut Bobby W. off and say something to the effect that"Well that settles that" and Woodward persisted. imagine the nerve of a follow-up question. it's like when Larry asked Bush I, were you involved in the hostage release scandal with Reagan on 1/20/81 and bush said no, and King said. well, that settles that. No follow-up, no nothing.

Also, he said that Bush's line of "We'll all be dead" was a "great line".. WTF does that mean - that Larry won't have t pay alimony or his new Mormon wife won't have a chance to divorce him?

What an intellectual pipsqueak...

[keithyboy]

25. History was yesterday...and we are not dead.

History was April 2003 and we can judge that so far, it's been a disaster.

[0007]

50. Larry King is a Barkly Hunt, mate, first class

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

18. clinton did it too!

referring to asking SA to keep prices low. carter did it, too. there is the excuse for schrub.

[PCIntern]

19. If I'm caught in bed with another woman

I'll say to my wife, "Clinton did it too!"

[girl gone mad]

42. That seems to be the new..

neo-con slogan.

To be sure, however, I don't recall Clinton showing SA war plans and promising to oust Saddam in exchange for lower oil prices during election season. Clinton didn't do that.

[trumad]

23. Atrios

Very Slowly

You know, sometimes it just drives me crazy that the media is just incapable of explaining very simple concepts.

If Woodward's allegations about the Saudi Prince and oil prices are true, and given Scotty's non-denials today they clearly are, then the issue is not WOW BUSH STRUCK A DEAL TO LOWER OIL PRICES.

The deal is...

BUSH STRUCK A DEAL TO KEEP OIL PRICES HIGH UNTIL CLOSER TO THE ELECTION AT WHICH POINT THEY'LL FALL.

wee difference.
-Atrios 8:06 PM

[movonne]

20. 60 minutes said they had reviewed the tapes...so there are tapes.

[ewagner]

22. Woodward's last comments

(on the war) "...Bush was engaged, passionate and maybe wrong."

No Kidding!!!!!

[robbedvoter]

44. Sounds like a political ad. No wonder Woody is the #1 recommended book

http://www.georgewbush.com/KerryMediaCenter/
look at the company he is in.
Think how these comments will play outside DU.

[BeatleBoot]

24. I think Larry King just tried to "set-up" Bob Woodward

He had to clarify that Prince Bandar called CNN - CNN did not call Bandar.

And Bandar (a Bush buddy) tries to parse his words from the interview.

Bob Woodward says he has tapes of what people said...

Larry King smirking the whole time...

Karl Rove is definitely working overtime...

I'm not a big fan of Larry King.

All of this is my opinion and how I interpreted it all...

[kentuck]

27. They are playing offense by having Bandar call in....

Why would he call in if not requested to do so? He is a close friend of the Bush family and was once an excort for Dorothy, Dubya's sister.

[BeatleBoot]

31. That's how I took it

I think Woodward was very credible saying he has the tapes...

And based on the Watergate scandal, he wouldn't be going off making claims without verifying them through at least two or three sources...

He's too much of a pro.

But again, I may be wrong.

[indie_voter]

29. It didn't seem that way to me

Larry can be dim and lazy but I don't think he was messing with Woodward.

I think he was trying to go to commercial break and wanted to speed it up. He let Woodward slam Bandar ("Congratulations Bandar" Woodward said saying Bandar's dodges belonged in the hall of fame and he had seen it all from Nixon onwards) when returned from commercials.

Woodward seemed really pissed at Bandar (and somewhat with the admin I thought, he pointed out Powell's parsing, plan vs decision to go to war). He put them all on notice, he has tapes.

[DoYouEverWonder]

26. So was Bandar's wife still the subject of an FBI investigation?

When Bu$h & Co were showing of state secrets to her husband?

[0007]

51. What was that one about, I was unaware of an FBI Invstigation

on Bandar's wife.

[Old and In the Way]

52. She funneled money to a couple of the terrorists involved in 9/11, IIRC.

That story sure sank quick, eh? Fucking unbelievable....I think I've left the parallel universe, gone past the Outer Limits, and am now in the Twilight Zone.

[0007]

53. Thanks for the information.

I'll check it out.

There are so many phoney plants here on this board, it is indeed hard to know what's real. Yeah, I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone also.

I just got turned on to a film called "Bulworth" it is a political film, a comedy and worth seeing. I only tell you because I think I'm old and in the way also. I'm 70 and very cantankerous, LOL!! Anyway your local video store may have it. It is great, and I'm more than sure you'll enjoy it. Hell, you probably already seen it.

[TacticalPeek]

56. She didn't know they were terrorists.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

[ljm2002]

55. She sent $$ to some of the hijackers

According to an article at http://tomflocco.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=53 , "Alhazmi's associates received continued payments of $3,500. per month from Princess Haifa Al-Faisal, wife of Saudi Crown Prince Bandar bin Sultan who is Ambassador to the United States, according to sources familiar with the financial evidence. (Newsweek, 11-22-2002)"

Below are some more results from this search string typed into Google:

princess bandar 9/11

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The Princess and Her "Charities"
From the December 9, 2002 issue: The real Saudi scandal.
by Stephen Schwartz
12/09/2002, Volume 008, Issue 13

THERE IS NO MYSTERY, and there is no need for complicated theorizing, about the scandal that has struck the family of Prince Bandar bin Sultan bin Abd al-Aziz, the ambassador of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in Washington. U.S. authorities are investigating a financial link between Prince Bandar's wife, Princess Haifa, and two of the September 11 hijackers, Khalid al-Midhar and Nawaf Alhazmi. Money the princess gave, ostensibly for an operation needed by a Saudi woman in San Diego, was passed through two cutouts, Omar al-Bayoumi and Osama Basnan--the latter reported to be an overt, public, and loud sympathizer of Osama bin Laden--to the soon-to-be hijackers. Now, the royal family's apologists in the U.S. government and media are engaging in contortions to help the Saudis explain away the money trail.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/001/972rtfeu.asp

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FBI probes possible Saudi, 9/11 money ties
Saturday, November 23, 2002 Posted: 7:37 PM EST (0037 GMT)

Al-Jubeir: "The FBI investigated this matter six months ago the embassy cooperated with them fully."

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The FBI is investigating whether the Saudi Arabian government funneled money to associates of two of the September 11 hijackers, a senior White House official told CNN Saturday.

Findings from an inquiry by the House-Senate Joint Intelligence Committee suggest evidence indicates money from the Saudi Arabian government could have made its way to the two hijackers through two Saudi students when they were in California.

There is some evidence that the students received a payment through the wife of the Saudi ambassador to the United States, according to the inquiry.

But sources said there is no conclusive evidence the Saudi government intentionally funded terror activities against the United States. Fifteen of the 19 September 11 hijackers were Saudis. The Saudi government has condemned their actions.

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/11/23/saudi.fbi.911/

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Details Emerging re 9-11 Saudi Money Trail
Dave Eberhart, NewsMax
Monday, Nov. 25, 2002

Some federal investigators suspect that Omar al-Bayoumi, the Saudi man who -- along with Osama Bassnan, another Saudi -- befriended and aided fellow Saudis and 9-11 hijackers, Khalid al-Midhar and Nawaq Alhazmi in San Diego, could have had connections to al Qaeda and were at least partially funded by monies that can be traced to Saudi Arabian sources, reports Newsweek magazine.
About two months after al-Bayoumi began his relationship with Alhazmi and Midhar, Newsweek reports that al-Bayoumi’s wife began receiving cashier’s checks, purchased from Washington, D.C.’ s Riggs Bank by Princess Haifa bint Faisal, the daughter of the late King Faisal and wife of Prince Bandar, the Saudi envoy.

The checks from the well-known Washington figure and friend of the Bush family were reportedly sent to Majeda Ibrahin Dweikat, a woman who then signed over many of them to al-Bayoumi’s wife, who in turn, gave portions of the funds to her husband.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/11/24/153053.shtml

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[spanone]

28. They also said that Bandar called in. THEY DID NOT CALL HIM

This guy is shilling for his buddy.

[Gothic Sponge]

30. Bob Woodward looks nothing like Robert Redford

Obviously, Woodward is trying to distance himself from the Sundance film festival. ;)

[berner59]

32. Redford has said...

in the past that he was dissappointed in Woodward going soft after Watergate...that he sold out...

[DoYouEverWonder]

33. Bandar and Bush

in happier days:

[enough]

37. Gorgeous picture.

I have no idea what is happening in this thread, or what happened on the segment that started it all, but this picture is a volume in itself.

Thanks.

[Catherine Vincent]

34. I wish I had your optimism.

I don't think it's over. Not over for Bush*.

[Renew Deal]

49. I meant the show is over.

I wish I was clearer.

[Imajika]

36. It is so interesting...

...how we on this forum, and many other people on different forums, pay so much attention to this sort of story. Often hang on every word one of these characters says, and then discuss and debate the meaning amongst ourselves and elsewhere.

Meanwhile, at least 75% of the American public simply couldn't care less. Woodwards accounts of the gas deal with the Saudi's or when Bush decided to go to war could well be 100% accurate and yet still it will probably have almost zero effect on the American public. Very often Bush can blatantly lie about some issue or other, and the response from the American public seems to be "well all politicians lie sometimes" or "Bush's heart is in the right place" or "Clinton lied much more".

I really am quite astounded sometimes at the utter lack of interest in politics so many Americans demonstrate. I've travelled a lot and seen similar sentiment elsewhere - but being the most powerful, influential, richest nation in the world...well, I guess I just hope for better from my fellow citizens.

Imajika

[rocktop15]

38. Sad, but true.

You speak the truth.

[Bluebear]

39. Imajika, I am with you

When people pay little or no attention to any of this and say "Well, Bush is trying at least" I just get so discouraged. Hey, if you are half-informed and vote for the man, go for it! That's what America is all about. But when I hear "I am not paying attention to the campaign, I don't like when they get negative" I just wish they would just stay home and not vote no matter what their party.

[Selwynn]

41. That is absolutely sad, and absolutely true. :(

[guitar man]

43. Truer words never spoken

I was telling my wife last night that I feel like I'm "shouting in a vacuum" most of the time. Most people just don't want to hear any "bad news" these days. *Bu$h is ripe for impeachment,but with the Repugs controlling both houses of Congress,it ain't gonna happen.

That would wake a lot of people up. "What,the president's being impeached?! What the hell is all that about?"

Sad

[kentuck]

45. True but...

The present leaders understand this about the voting public and manipulate it like a magician pulling a rabbit out of a hat. They lie on purpose and with a purpose. They are very much into mind control. And that is why it is so important that someone continue to fight the battle...

[bvar22]

40. Larry King Live Replays @

11PM Central Time according to my DirecTV Guide.
I'm gonna watch so I can understand this highly fragmented thread. Sounds like something happened.

[osaMABUSh]

46. Right at the end Woodward repeats Bush's "We'll all be dead"

Woodward replays Bush when asked how would history see the Iraq war Bush says it doesn't matter because we'll all be dead.

Then Larry King says: "Great line"

WTF? Great line? He said it in an admiringly way.

It was a pathetic, immature, or frightening line it wasn't a GREAT line.

[Renew Deal]

48. I heard that.

WTF does he mean by great line?

[yelladawg]

54. Add treason

AWOL and now Treason