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Romey Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 12:17 PM
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What if Clark ran for POTUS as a Repug? Think of the possibilities!!
Clark opened the door to this possibility this weekend. If this happened, it might be the most brillian political strategy ever designed. Somehow, I sense Carville is behind this move.

Would chimp have a chance to regain his party's nomination against someone like Clark?

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whoYaCallinAlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 12:20 PM
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1. You have no idea just how much repukes LOVE Bush.
He's done everything they wanted him to do and more. Unfortunteley, I work in an accounting firm that is rich in repukes.
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mithnanthy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 01:02 PM
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2. Could be a type of "insurance"...
...that we would be represented, either way the election goes. I think Clark could "out shine" shrub and de-throne him. If Clark ran against shrub and won the nomination, he could win or if he lost, the elected Dem Pres. could place him in the new administration. either way, we would be better off.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 01:18 PM
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6. I don't know
We are seeing some discontent. The Education bill, campaign finance reform, recent Surpreme Court decisions--some more ideological conservatives are asking why elect a person who is just going to enact legislation you oppose.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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whoYaCallinAlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 03:51 PM
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12. No, you are so right. But every poll I see where they break it down
between democratic and republicans show that 80+ percent of repukes think he is doing a "swell" job. Things like support for the war get high 80's. I would love it if the polls were wrong. That is very strong support at the base level.
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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 01:06 PM
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3. would rather have him as a Dem but...
frankly, Anybody But Bush is my slogan no matter who wins in '04

I want a Democrat but I can live a lot better with a sane Replicant than with the specter of four more years of King George and his thuggish administration. Clark certainly does not strike me as a neo-con/PNAC type on even his worst day
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 01:09 PM
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4. Where did you hear that
Clark has left the door open to run as a Repug? He hasn't declared himself as a Democrat publicly but it is my understanding he is a registered Democrat in Arkansas.

From everything I've read about Clark, I can see no way the Republican Party would imbrace him as a candidate.

MzPip
:dem:
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Romey Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 01:33 PM
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7. Clark was on one of the Sunday shows and brought it up
Josh Marshall writes about it today http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

Why can't Clark be a repug like Zell Miller is a Democrat? Except for the RW loonies, many old-fashioned repukes would vote for someone like Clark because he's more moderate.

Remember Clark is out of Little Rock and he would probably get the backing of Jackson Stephens money. This is a doable strategy and Clark would bring Democrats into his cabinet. A crossover Dem is the only way I can see for the Dems to win LONG-TERM. They are set on running Hillary in 2008, but they will not be able to if things keep on in the same direction.

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Composed Thinker Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 05:25 PM
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19. Who says Hillary will run in 2008?
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jesus Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 03:48 PM
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11. In Arkansas...
We don't register party affiliation.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 01:14 PM
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5. Clark
From what I have seen and heard about Clark I don't think he would sell his soul to the Repubs.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 01:37 PM
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8. Small plane crash. Problem over.
Bushco doesn't care for possibilities.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 05:27 PM
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20. I tend to agree, aquart
Perhaps a character assassination, though.

After Kennedy Jr., Carnahan, and Wellstone, the Busheviks might be laying low.

On the other hand, Clark running as Repug just might be enough for them to dust off their Spook Phone Book and call the Colombians again.

On the other other hand, if the Busheviks whack their DIRECT COMPETITOR like that, people are going to notice, especially after Wellstone.

Do they dare?

They're Busheviks, arrogant Royalty, so perhaps they will.

Or perhaps Uncle Karl would put the nix on it. Don't want to tip your hand when you're sooo close to Imperial Rule Forever.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 01:51 PM
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9. I think you misread Clark's comments .....
Clark, in all of his comments, promotes a STRONGLY progressive political philosophy that more resembles FDR than Clinton ....

One might ask what would happen of Bush ran as a Democrat: ..... that makes as much sense ....

NO republican is going to vote for a BIG government, social legislating, Keynesian promoting, FDR/Truman quoting progressive like Clark .. no matter WHAT letter is next to his name .....
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jcgadfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 03:14 PM
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10. The only way Clark would win as a Republican
is to out-Bush Bush during the campaign. I don't see that happening. Gen. Clark has ethics.
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Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 04:11 PM
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13. Something's up with Powell leaving, too.
I'm getting the feeling that 2004 is going to be a VERY strange year. Anything is possible!
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 04:59 PM
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14. He has the same chance of winning in either party
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 05:03 PM
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15. Naw
The freepers call him a communist; they hate him. Can't see it happening.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 05:21 PM
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16. As in "no chance"
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 05:22 PM
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17. haha, I really doubt it would happen, but wouldn't this be great?:
Clark, runs as a Republican, declaring himself a "concerned citizen" -- he energizes independents, liberal, centrist, and old-style internationalist Republicans to vote for him, garnering something like 20-30 percent in the primaries and getting good media coverage w/ it. He doesn't threaten Bush's nomination, but angrily says how Bush is veering way to the right and betraying the roots of the Republican Party.

Then, he drops out a few weeks before the Republican convention and shortly before the Democratic convention. The Democratic nominee -- I'm rooting for Kerry, personally -- picks him as his running mate, and Clark declares himself a Democrat. We bring in some liberal Republicans, old-style Republicans, and independents and basically unite w/ all the independents and old-style Repubs that don't like Bush and the reactionary right.

It'd be great.

But it won't happen.

Fun to dream though.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 06:38 PM
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25. He's pro-choice. He would never win as a repuke on a national ticket..
Only if he ran as a local candidate in the Northeast, could he win as a repuke.
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Composed Thinker Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 05:24 PM
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18. Where was this possibility opened up this weekend?
I thought he shared many of the Democratic values.
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ignatiusr Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 05:41 PM
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21. No
The possibility wasn't opened up. Trajan's assessment was spot on. Speculating about Clark running as a Republican is as bizaare as speculating about Bush running as a Democrat. He's as, or more, liberal than Dean.
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Composed Thinker Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 05:42 PM
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22. I just read that link from the OP
It makes perfect sense.
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 05:49 PM
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23. I wouldn't vote for any republican and that includes Clark
He isn't in the running anyway, so until he is, I'm not wasting my time on him.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 06:36 PM
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24. Bwa ha ha ha! Josh Marshall is a "Clark Bar..
Josh Marshall is a "Clark Bar.. Josh Marshall is a "Clark Bar..

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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