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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 08:59 PM
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Tell me again: Why did FBIHQ block the FISA for Moussaoui???
5) The fact is that key FBIHQ personnel whose job it was to assist and coordinate with field division agents on terrorism investigations and the obtaining and use of FISA searches (and who theoretically were privy to many more sources of intelligence information than field division agents), continued to, almost inexplicably,5 throw up roadblocks and undermine Minneapolis' by-now desperate efforts to obtain a FISA search warrant, long after the French intelligence service provided its information and probable cause became clear. HQ personnel brought up almost ridiculous questions in their apparent efforts to undermine the probable cause.6 In all of their conversations and correspondence, HQ personnel never disclosed to the Minneapolis agents that the Phoenix Division had, only approximately three weeks earlier, warned of Al Qaeda operatives in flight schools seeking flight training for terrorist purposes!

http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020603/memo.html

:shrug:

And why did the Dept. head who blocked the FISA get an award by Bush????

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1378478
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 09:02 PM
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1. Wasn't it highly unusual for a FISA to be denied?
Edited on Sat Apr-10-04 09:04 PM by Stephanie
(To the lurkers:

FORGIVE US, but we were poring over this information TWO YEARS ago. Some of the details have escaped us in the time we've been waiting for some answers to the questions.)

I think I recall that there had not been any FISA's denied under Clinton.

(a FISA is a warrant that is issued to the FBI in secret cases by a secret court that meets in DC).
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 09:14 PM
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2. Skip Fox is the expert in this area...
If, as the data appears to show (see on number of FISA warrants year by year), there was a large decrease in FISA warrants applied for and requested after Ashcroft came to Justice (only 900+ for 2001 compared to 1000+ for 2000, and it is safe to say that most of those 900+ were post 9/11 . . . remember the roundups &c.???), then are we to believe that the reduced number is the result of a single SSA at FBIHQ? Were other Supervisory Special Agents also impeding the requests for FISA warrants? Is there a pattern? Will other field agents come forward with complaints paralleing Rowley's?

Found these links by Google..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=1922&forum=DCForumID60

and

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=6437&forum=DCForumID38
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 09:44 PM
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3. Kick for the story that started it all...
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