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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 03:05 PM
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All the peices fall in place.
The NY Post asked "What *was* Condi's job?"

And that is the question that ties the whole Cheney/Bush adminstration together.

Points to consider --

* -- Condi was an expert on Soviet studies, and knowledgable regarding the oil and gas producing Former Soviet States.

* -- Enron needed a lot of natural gas for it's power plant in India.

* -- OPEC in the person of Saudi Arabia was becoming unstable, and a secure source of oil would be needed that was not under OPEC control.

* -- China is poised to become the largest oil consuming nation in a decade.

* -- as India profited from the broken American IT industry, it would consume more energy and petroleum.


Think of the Bush Junior administration as consisting of seperate groups.

1. The Oil and Energy Industry
Sphere of influence -- Middle Eastern and Central Asian policy.
Deregulation and market rape.

2. The PNAC empire builder's assault on the Islamic world.
S. O. I. -- Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iran.

3. The Christian Right
SOI-- Domestic 'security' and the culture war.


This administration was not concentrating on terrorism for domestic security, because its domestic security goals were not to protect us from terrorists, but gays, breasts, and other instruments of the devil like Democrats.

Condi was chief Natl Security Advisor because they could not name her to her true post -- Head of Oil and Gas industry international services. Cheney was the lynchpin of the first two groups, and Ashcroft held together the latter.

The answer was that no one was responsible for keeping an eye on al Qaida. In fact, more small attacks by al Qaida would be a good thing, as they could then do incremental things against OPEC.

They did not count on ObL to mount such a horrorific attack, because they were stupid. They still are stupid, and now we need to pry the truth out of them forcibly.
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 03:08 PM
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1. Nice analysis but I would add another group in there
The military/industrial complex certainly had alot at stake with all of these issues. There are tons of admin appointees not to mention cheney and perle who came from that camp.

There could almost be a sub-group of the PNAC for the likes of perle and wolfowitz as likud west.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 03:18 PM
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3. Likud west?
Once again, the peanut wags the elephant? Oh, those clever Jews. They seize control without money, population, or mineral resources. Just with their smarts. Right?
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 03:28 PM
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4. No really. I am NOT anti-Israel nor anti-semetic
Edited on Sat Apr-10-04 03:28 PM by steviet_2003
But I am anti-rightwinger and these supporters of the extreme RW sharon DO have an agenda that includes likud principles and interests.

Long-time Washington cold warrior Richard N. Perle is a man of many hats: Pentagon policy adviser (resigned February 2004), former Likud policy adviser, media manager, international investor, op-ed writer, talk show guest, think tank expert and ardent supporter of the war in Iraq. Known in Washington circles as "The Prince of Darkness," Perle is associated with the American Enterprise Institute and the Project for the New American Century, both of which have been prominent behind-the-scenes architects of the Bush administration's foreign policy, in particular its push for war with Iraq. He is closely allied with Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Dundes Wolfowitz, another Iraq hawk. Perle is also a vocal supporter of Israel and a critic of Saudi Arabia. Perle is on the Advisory Board of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA), and is a former chairman of the Defense Policy Board, a Defense Department advisory group composed primarily of former government officials, retired military officers, and academics.

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Richard_N._Perle
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ex_jew Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 04:03 PM
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7. Well, however it happens, half the top neo-cons are in fact Jewish
Without their "help", we wouldn't be in Iraq. It's really very clear-cut, whether or not you can get your head around it.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 12:48 AM
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8. Yes, I agree
But they lost influence in whatever internal flap split
off Bush/Carlise from the administration.

They should have gotten a bit of the take, but somehow
the traditional military contractors fell afoul of
some element of the administration. Maybe it was a
Rummy-Bush41 split, I dont know. But who ever it was, it sure got the Carlise Group's panties in a twist, and they held it against GWHB.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 03:16 PM
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2. nice, see also this GD thread and link to Slate article, re: Condi...
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ochazuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 03:31 PM
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5. I like the tell-it-like-it-is job titles
So, con-di is "Head of Oil and Gas industry international services."

What about the others?
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 03:38 PM
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6. Kissinger, aside from being one of the Pentagon Advisory Board
Edited on Sat Apr-10-04 03:54 PM by cosmicdot
members, was appointed c. 10/2001, as an Advisor to the China National Offshore Oil Co.

some resources:

http://www.btinternet.com/~nlpwessex/Documents/kissingerunocal.htm
http://elitewatch.911review.org/Kissinger_Associates.html

posturing in the Caspian Sea - former Soviet states arena
by some of the ring leaders ... Cheney is likely still part of the group, although he 'resigned' after being appointed VP
http://www.usacc.org/contents.php?cid=2

your synopsis of events sounds like it could have rolled off the press at rightwing think tanks, i.e., the Council on Foreign Relations or the American Enterprise Institute or Council for National Policy

interesting, I had to go to the waybackmachine to retrieve these CFR webpages which up 'til recently had been available
http://web.archive.org/web/20000412155313/http://www.treemedia.com/cfrlibrary/library/energy/greatgamemaps.html
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