DZ Knows Why The PDB Title Used The Word "Determined":

[David Zephyr]

"I believe the title was 'Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States,' " Condi Rice answered to the 9/11 Commission today.

The use of the word "determined" in the title of the PDB struck me as odd the second I heard it this morning.

So, why would the title say that Bin Laden was "determined" to attack inside the U.S.?

Who in the U.S. intelligence community had concluded that Bin Laden was so "determined"?

How had those that reported to the President ascertained that Bin Laden was "determined" to attack?

Here's the answer:

Just two to three weeks prior to the issue of the PDB on August 6, 2001, the chief local C.I.A. agent in Dubai had met with Osama Bin Laden in the American Hospital there while he was being treated. This was sometime shortly after July 4th.

The White House's end-run to deal directly with the Taliban in Afghanistan had backfired and upset the man who really was running that terrorist state: Osama and his al Qaeda organization.

The last ditch effort to appease Bin Laden was made there in Dubai by the C.I.A. itself. It failed.

The C.I.A. then reported back to Washington that Bin Laden was "determined" to attack with inside the United States. Determined. Couldn't be persuaded not to attack. Determined.

The Summer of Terror was in already in high gear. Ashcroft, on July 16th began flying only non-commercial planes, the White House began preparing plans for a full military invasion of Afghanistan by July 15.

And on August 4th, George W. Bush, coward that he is, flew the coop down to Texas announcing a new milestone event for any President, never-mind a newly elected one: a month long vacation far, far away from Washington, D.C.

And on August 6th, the President was given the final message in his PDB: "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States".

On September 11th, Bin Laden showed his determination and paid back Bush and Cheney for their double dealing with the Taliban behind his back delivering his revenge in the greatest act of terror in American history.

Bush Knew.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,584444,00.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/national/main303601.shtml
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4262511,00.html
http://www.infowars.com/saved%20pages/Prior_Knowledge/us_planned_attack.htm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4696656/

[Must_B_Free]

1. Reagan Knew too

[boobooday]

2. That word jumped out at me too

What is ambiguous about it? Not a damn thing.

I believe you are right.

http://www.wgoeshome.com

[David Zephyr]

3. Jumped Out.

Nothing ambiguous at all.

Bush Knew.

[sadiesworld]

4. Why would they try to persuade him not to attack (indicating that

they actually gave a rat's ass) and then sit back and do nothing?

[leftofthedial]

5. Or was it typical bureaucrat passive voice

The intelligence gathers have determined that Bin Laden will attack inside the US?

As in, Bush determined to smear administration critics (that is, "determined by a certain DU poster).

[w13rd0]

6. Parse the symantecs...

...bin Laden determined to attack inside US...

bin Laden determined to (as in committed to and taking action to) attack inside US

OR

bin Laden determined (as in we have concluded that) to attack inside US

The first one speaks of the motivations of bin Laden. That Ossama wanted to attack the US is a shock to no one.

the second possible meaning is a bit more interesting, implying that research had concluded that bin Laden was going to attack domestic US targets, with the rest of the memo outlining 70 ongoing investigations and a determination (there's that word again) that al Queada was pursuing the hijacking of airplanes and that al Queada had (historically) considered use of hijacked airplanes as missles against tall buildings and monuments (NY and Wash, DC leap immediately to mind)...


Sorry, but it seems quite obvious that they KNEW an attack was going to occur, but they felt that without an attack, they would not have the political capital to improve security AND get missle defense AND get tax cuts. And if an attack were prevented, they'd have done nothing more spectacular than what Clinton/Gore had achieved in 1999...and that didn't win them another term. They NEEDED that attack for so very many reasons...and they hit the trifecta...

[Old and In the Way]

7. Good point!

Should would like to see the rest of the PDB to determine the context...

[drfemoe]

8. The Original "Bring It On" .. summer 2001

(links in OP)
Tuesday, 18 September, 2001, 11:27 GMT 12:27 UK
US 'planned attack on Taleban'
The wider objective was to oust the Taleban
By the BBC's George Arney
A former Pakistani diplomat has told the BBC that the US was planning military action against Osama Bin Laden and the Taleban even before last week's attacks.

Niaz Naik, a former Pakistani Foreign Secretary, was told by senior American officials in mid-July that military action against Afghanistan would go ahead by the middle of October.
http://www.infowars.com/saved%20pages/Prior_Knowledge/us_planned_attack.htm

Asked if he was surprised that the American participants were denying the details they mentioned in Berlin, Mr Naik said last night: "I'm a little surprised but maybe they feel they shouldn't have told us anything in advance now we have had these tragic events".
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4262511,00.html

So, they weren't focused on 'Al Queda' because they were going after OBL and/or Taliban? Nothing makes sense. Other than, B* knew. There seems to be so much more to this than even the most fervent *conspiracy* theorists have proposed. Think Iran-Contra. Who could have speculated on the twisted *national security* endeavor THAT was?

The more we learn, the more we don't know. If we were so lucky, it wouldn't be the first time a few gov officials spent some time in prison. That is the least likely outcome of the current crime spree, in my sad opinion.