Janeane Garofolo Show Listening Thread #1

[Eric J in MN]

Sam Sedar is using the word "mercenary" a lot at the start of the show.

He says the mainstream media doesn't use the word, because the public would ask too many questions about what is going on in Iraq if they did.

[madfloridian]

1. He is saying the truth. Good for him.

They are defending Kos, and explaining his views further. Describing why the mercenaries are there, describing the horrible plight of the regular military.

I am very happy they are doing this.

[Eric J in MN]

2. Garofalo says there have been 11,700 American casualties, including

Garofalo says there have been 11,700 American casualties in Iraq, including the dead and wounded; counting all US soldiers who can no longer fight.

[Eric J in MN]

3. says many US soldiers have inhaled depleted uranium and may get cancer nt

nt

[Ediacara]

4. FYI Jeneane, Depleted Uranium...

...is used because it's 2 or 3 times as dense as lead. When added to shells, it increases their overall density (and thus mass), so the shells can shoot through tank armor better than conventional shells.

You're right about the health problems with DU, and the fact that it's a danger to soldiers and civilians for a long time after the war. The military could use another super-dense metal that's non-toxic, non-radioactive, such as Osmium or Iridium, and have the same results.

[Jim Sagle]

7. Why don't they? Is DU cheaper?

[ithacan]

8. it's much cheaper

in fact it's free because it's a byproduct of nuclear reactors, while titanium and other materials are very costly.

[Ediacara]

9. possibly

DU is a waste product from nuclear reactors, so it may be readily available for the military. Osmium and Iridium are EXTREMELY rare metals in the Earth's crust, so it might be very hard (and expensive) to get literally tons of Iridium and/or Osmium.

Despite what Discovery Channel documentaries might lead you to believe :-) the "Iridium layer" at the end of the Mesozoic is really a black clay with a slight spike in Iridium content, and is completely useless as an exploitable resource (not to mention the military would destroy fossils.....).

[buycitgo]

24. what're you, a COMMunist?

get with it, boy

shoes for industry!

[Jim Sagle]

30. Malloy uncovered plans to "dispose of" DU by feeding it into consumer

items, like forks and spoons and lawn chair tubing. :grr:

[Postman]

5. Janeane mentions Depleted Uranium...

DU is a waste product in the process of producing nuclear fuel and weapons. They found it has a superior penetrating ability against armor (tanks) and vehicles.

When it hits the target, radiological dust is aerosolized and contaminates the area and everyone who breathes it.

DU is a heavy metal and does not degrade very fast. I believe the US Army's own studies show that it is a carcinogen but have squelched the data in order to retain the battlefield advantage of DU ammo.

[maddezmom]

6. Tim Robbins on now

[Khephra]

10. And he's actually talking about Leo Straus

Shock of all shocks. You won't hear him mentioned on CNN.

[Eric J in MN]

11. "Consipiracy is the making of plans by the use of deception" -Tim Robbins

"Consipiracy is the making of plans by the use of deception" -Tim Robbins.

Robbins and Garofalo don't seem to think that the term "conspiracy" should cause citizens to shy away from exploring how powerful people work together.

[Eric J in MN]

12. Tim Robbins says much of the public supported him during the

Tim Robbins says much of the public supported him during the controversy after the president of the Baseball Hall of Fame uninvited him from speaking about the movie "Bull Durham" to punish Robbins for criticizing the war.

Sam Sedar talks about hyposcrisy that Baseball Hall of Fame president said he unininvited Tim Robbins to avoid "politicizing" the museum, but Ari Fleischer gave a speech there earlier unrelated to baseball.

[Eric J in MN]

13. Tim Robbins says that when he was invited to speak about the

Tim Robbins says that when he was invited to speak about the Iraq war on tv, he wanted to bring an expert with him, but they wouldn't let him.

Garofalo also says historians and defense experts who were against the war were rarely interviewed. The mainstream media just interviewd anti-war ACTORS to make the anti-war movement look silly.

[Eric J in MN]

14. Tim Robbins says he asked Ralph Nader not to run.

Tim Robbins says he asked Ralph Nader not to run in 2004.

Says he told Nader that Kucinich and Dean addressed Nader's issues.

[NightTrain]

15. Robbins also said that it's important *not* to demonize Nader.

Are you listening, DU?

[Catch22Dem]

18. Nope

NuckFader

[NightTrain]

20. I don't know why I bother.

It's like trying to reason with Bible-thumpers. :eyes:

[Catch22Dem]

22. Hey man, I love ya, but...

This is DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND which means I don't have to do jack for Nader. Nader is not helping the Democratic Party, of which I am a proud member, therefore why should I give him 5 seconds of my time? Bible-thumper? LOL.

[maddezmom]

16. Today Show black out Tim Robbins taling about Iraq?

[Catch22Dem]

17. Hilarious right before the commercial break

"Who are these goons??? Get that off my mouth!!!"

[Eric J in MN]

19. Tim Robbins talks about Matt Lauer ending interview early just because

Tim Robbins talks about Matt Lauer ending interview early just because Robbins said that most countries where the US has gone to war aren't currently democracies, and so creating a democracy in Iraq is an uncertain outcome of going to war there.

Apparently, as Robbins started listing undemocratic countries where the US went to war, Matt Lauer ended the interview early.

[Eric J in MN]

23. apparently a "Today" show producer stopped the interview and not Lauer nt

nt

[bpilgrim]

21. salute to the LEFTY's with a MIC

peace

[Eric J in MN]

25. Janeane Garofalo said that when she and Joan Jett appeared at

Janeane Garofalo said that when she and Joan Jett appeared at a Howard Dean rally at Drake University, Joan Jett was shoved by a mob chanting "Bush, Bush, Bush" and Jett punched one of them. Garofalo said the mob was organized by the head of the Iowa Republican Party.

[madfloridian]

27. There is a video of it in Trippi's possession, I think.

:hi:

[Ediacara]

26. Heart of the Beholder?

This movie project has run an ad twice during the show. Does anyone know anything about it? Their site doesn't tell me much.

[supernova]

28. Trying to raise funds

to make the movie, I think. Sounds :scared:

[Ilsa]

29. Regarding the Vulcans....

One point JG et al didn't make was that the Vulcans came to Austin to tutor Bush in early 2000 campaign right after that reporter quizzed him on foreign leaders and Shrub failed the test! It was terribly embarrassing, so the Vulcans showed up in Austin to give the Chimp a crash course in foreign policy.