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PfcHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 04:27 PM
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Might a nuculer weapon be used by this bunch of
maniacal, crusading zealots. The
hawk personalities here - rigid, controlling,
not open to outside ideas seem like
they could easily panic, make bad
choices, and tip.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 04:31 PM
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1. No way, no how
unless they have totally taken leave of their senses.
Russia & China would retaliate.
This world over.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 04:31 PM
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2. they would never nuke an oil field, or anywhere near it.
anything else is game though..
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 04:34 PM
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3. Only in this country
so they can lay the blame at the feet of either Osama bin Laden, Bill Clinton, or both.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 04:34 PM
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4. Welcome!
I think they would have no trouble using the nuclear bunker-busters they keep talking up. A larger bomb, though, well we would have to experience another 9/11 or worse before they would roll one of those bad boys out.
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JoePizz Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 04:36 PM
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5. Against the US, probably so
Isn't it a strange co-incidence that Al Queda is purported to now have a suitcase nuke- anyone want to bet what the November surprise is going to be?

I wouldn't put it past Shrub & Co to do anything that they think might help their cause. They feel that they are working in America's best interest, so anything they do to stay in power is thereby justified. If that means nuking LA and blaming terrorists (or allowing terrorists to do it themselves), then so be it.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 04:36 PM
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6. No way...
Rove would never let that happen...
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 04:36 PM
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7. only little ones
kinder, gentler nukes.
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JoePizz Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 04:38 PM
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8. What do they do, say "Pardon me" before they blow up? N/T
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JimT Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 04:41 PM
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9. Nothing would surprise me...
...I'm very worried over the coming months. I just don't see these egomaniacs giving up the White House easily.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 04:43 PM
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10. How do we know they haven't?
I mean the media isn't exactly the modicum of truth. And if the Syphilis Experiments of the 50s say anything it's that gov't and media will go to great lengths to hide these actions.

And the battle being fought a world away we wouldn't exactly see the effects of these weapons for awhile in higher cancer rates. I am speaking of small nukes. I believe they are crazy enough to use the big ones also. Why do you think they push for SDI so much? We'll have nukes in space soon I think.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 04:44 PM
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11. "To Convey...the Desire for Peace Across the Centuries."


The horror of the A-bombing was city-wide. Injured victims fled blindly through flame and smoke seeking a safe refuge. Nearly all were naked and in terrible pain, their clothes and skin burned to shreds. Many fell exhausted as they fled, breathing their last on a road or in a river.
The city was a sea of flame. The people fleeing out of it were burned too badly to be recognized even as men or women.
Drawing / Terumasa Hirata
Around 8:45 a.m., August 6, 1945
Approx. 2,200m from the hypocenter
Ushita-machi (now, Ushita-minami 1-chome)



Corpses Floating in the River

Hiroshima is built on the Otagawa River delta, and the seven rivers running through it were vital to its growth. They provided a convenient network for the transportation of cargo and served as children's playgrounds as well. After the bombing, burned victims went to the rivers for water. Some jumped in or swam across to escape the fire, but many died in the water, floating down with the current or hung up on the pilings. The Otagawa River was completely full of corpses.
Thousands of bloated corpses drift on the water surface.
Drawing / Shunsaburo Tanabe
August 7, 1945
Motoyasugawa River





In 1945, schools at the junior high level and above had nearly abandoned schooling. Instead, students were mobilized to work in military factories or demolish buildings for fire lanes. Of the approximately 8,400 students mobilized, 6,300 were killed. The first- and second-year junior high students and girls who were out in the open demolishing buildings in the city center were hardest hit.
Mothers moved among the wounded mobilized students who had been laid out. When one found her child, she would burst into tears and embrace her or him.
Drawing / Anonymous
August 7, 1945
Approx. 1,700m from the hypocenter
Outside Yokogawa Station, Yokogawa-cho 3-chome



With everything destroyed by fire, bridges were precious landmarks for orientation. Many of the fleeing victims rested on or below bridges, often breathing their last there. Seven bridges collapsed or were burned due to the A-bomb, but another 20 were washed away in the typhoon and flooding that struck the city that September and October. These subsequent losses, too, were largely attributable to A-bomb damage.

A cart driver and his horse died together on the approach to the bridge.
Drawing / Masahiko Nakata
Approx. 1,250m from the hypocenter
Yokogawa-shin Bridge

http://www.pcf.city.hiroshima.jp/virtual/VirtualMuseum_e/exhibit_e/exh0303_e/exh03034.html
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 05:04 PM
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12. I would put NOTHING past the Bush Criminal Empire.
Most everyone agrees that Hitler set the standard for evil, but few seem to recall who it was who funded the bastard and made his evil possible.

Logically, even if Al Qaeda were acting independently of BCE orders, it would make sense for their next attack to be on the West Coast with the rhetoric of "Nowhere is the Great Satan safe from Allah's wrath!" or words to that effect.

If Junior and the boys are indeed pulling Osama's strings, the motive becomes far more obvious. The west coast is made up of three states that Junior did not win in 2000 and is unlikely to win in 2004. However the Democratic population of all three states is centralized in the cities, where as the rural populations are Freep country. It also just so happens that many of these major cities are located right on the water. Seattle. San Francisco. Portland. San Diego. LA is close enough. More possibilities for attack, and it's common knowledge that this Fraudministration hasn't done jack shit to secure sea ports.

Also add the curious way Jeb referred to San Francisco a few months ago. Freudian slip Jebbie??
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 05:17 PM
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13. "Might"? I think the better question is "When".
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 05:23 PM
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14. that is why I don't want to wait till January to have him out of office
I'm worried he's gonna nuke somebody.

Said this a couple of months ago.

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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 05:29 PM
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15. Bill Moyers talked about..........
this recently and yeah, it's still on their minds. At least some of them.:scared:
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 05:40 PM
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16. If they do....
then the international community will be severely pressed to
intervene on behalf of the Iraqi people. The US would, by default,
become a "rogue nation" that is a threat to EVERY nation on this
world.

Let's hope that saner and more rational heads prevail....
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