Which of these would most likely trigger a nationwide riot?

[booksenkatz]

Am I just a tired, worn-out cynic?

[booksenkatz]

1. Hmmm

Maybe I should have said "impossible to get Cheetohs, Ding Dongs and beer at Piggly Wiggly." That would do it.

[maddezmom]

2. #1

without a doubt.

[booksenkatz]

8. I really don't know any more

I remember back during the coup, when the Supreme Court told Florida it could not perform a statewide recount, I was so certain that Americans would not stand for it! I expected rioting in the streets! And I was so wrong. I'd like to think that a postponement or cancellation of the elections would get America off its lazy butt; however, if Bush and company waved the flag and cited "national security" or an imminent threat of some kind, I have this feeling that America would buy it.
:scared:

[outinforce]

3. Do I Understand You Correctly?

Are you really saying that you are in favor of a nationwide riot?

Are you really suggesting that any or all of these four things you have included as part of your poll would be a "good thing", since any or all of them might lead -- as you yourself say , "at long last", to a nationwide riot?

I might call you something, but it would not be a tired, worn-out cynic. And I don't think I could post it without violating the rules of DU.

[DenverDem]

9. It will take a riot

to wrest control of the country from the icy grip of the corporate globalist power elite.

Voting for the lesser of two evils does not a revolution make.

[ET Awful]

11. Actually what he's saying is . . .

that he wants to know what it would take to give America as a whole a hard enough kick in the ass that they'd wake up and smell the democracy they're losing under Shrubco.

He didn't say he's in favor of riots, it was metaphorical.

[Fenris]

12. She's not saying that at all

She's asking which of these unfortunate events would cause the general public to rise up and rebel or riot. She's not in favor of a nationwide riot, as all of those options are undesirable. It is a question of how complacent the American people are.

[tom_paine]

13. You beat me to it, outinforce. patsified, you should be ashamed

Sorry, that's how I see it.

You could say a lot of things about a Nationwide Riot, "God Forbid" being my personal choice, but "at long last" is pretty fucked up, IMHO.

That is the LAST thing I and most people want. Not because we are afraid or too cautious or whatever, but because I would rather see the American Experiment survive peacefully. I don't believe it would survive a Civil War, this time around.

Let us change things the way the System intended. If (and this is a strong possibility) the Busheviks have rigged it so that such an occurrance is not possible, then we'll worry what to do about it then. Even then I'd be loathe to desire a National Riot and I wouldn't EVER use the words "at long last" about it unless the Busheviks had gone Full-Blown Soviet or Nazi.

Then you probably wouldn't hear me say it anyway because I wouldn't be going near a computer.

Bad choice of words, patsified.

[booksenkatz]

16. You are right about the choice of words

I removed "at long last" because it does imply that I want a riot, when in fact what I want is for America to wake the f**k up. I think I was attempting to be humorous because I have come to believe that your average American would riot over a Cheetoh before he'd riot about having his vote taken away. Therefore, I have begun to believe that the glorious experiment is not going to survive, sadly.

Hope that I've made my position clearer now.

[tom_paine]

33. Gotcha. We're cool.

[booksenkatz]

14. Good God, no, you do not understand me correctly!

With all the misery that has occurred in the past 3 1/2 years, it is beyond me as to why America continues to sit and endure it without so much as a peep. I'm just wondering how much more misery it would take for America to wake up, that's all. It seems like it has to hit home, to disrupt the actual physical comfort, in order to get people upset. I'm angry that Americans have become so selfish that the deaths of our service people mean ZERO, for example. Their children aren't the ones dying over there, so they think everything is peachy!

I'm sorry that you misunderstood what I was trying to say here. My question via this poll is simply, WHAT THE HELL DOES IT TAKE TO MAKE AMERICA WAKE UP?

[outinforce]

29. Thank You. Sorry. Thank You

Thank you for replying to me, patsified.

I am sorry I misunderstood your post, and I do apologize for what must have seemd to you a too harsh criticism of your motives. (I also apologize for the thoughts I had of you as I was reading the original version of your post.)

Thanks also for removing the words that caused my confusion.

[booksenkatz]

35. It's ok

We're all a bit edgy, especially today, and I think you and tompaine were absolutely right. I knew what I mean by those words, but I could certainly see how they could be misconstrued! It's important to me that I first communicate clearly, and THEN if we disagree, we can bring out the pistols!
:7

[AntiCoup2K4]

41. WHAT THE HELL DOES IT TAKE TO MAKE AMERICA WAKE UP?

I asked myself that very question after the 1994 election. And again after the 2000 NON-election. And again after Terry McAsshole deliberately took a dive in 2002. And again in the recent pathetic joke of a primary season.

And the question has yet to be answered. :grr:

[outinforce]

43. I Agreed, Pretty Much With You

until you got to the part about the "recent pathetic joke" of a primary season.

Are you saying that unless the voters of this country -- or, more specifically, the people who vote in Democratic Party primaries and participate in Democratic Party caucuses -- vote the same way you woud, that any elections are just "pathetic jokes".

I am old enough to have lived through the elections of both Democratic Presidents and Republican ones. I have often been disappointed by the outcomes of various elections.

But I think (or at least I hope) that I am mature enough to understand that the voters do not make mistakes. Never. They are sovereign. And they get -- or, rather, we get --- the government we elect and deserve.

[AntiCoup2K4]

46. I'm saying that the "powers that be" in this party's "leadership"

deliberately rigged the game from day one, planted lies in the media, sent their operatives to caucuses etc, with the intention of choosing a nominee who goes along with the sickening ass kissing, dictator appeasing agenda, choosing to attack Democratic candidates who represented much needed change. Change that these fucking cowards did not and do not want.

Does that mean the voters realize they have been had? No, but then some of the very same people also believe Saddam Hussein was responsible for 9-11. A lie repeated often enough becomes the truth, as far as most people are concerned.

I'm not one of those people. A lie is a lie, and I've had enough dealings with liars to know the difference. And it's sad to say that this party isn't lacking in them.

[outinforce]

48. So You're Saying Then

So what you are saying (and please don't let me put words into your mouth) is that the Democratic Party's procedures are a complete sham. That the Democratic Party is really just a tight little cabal of what you so eloquenjtly call "fucking cowards" -- but very bright and devious "fucking cowards", who are able to rig party caucuses and even primaries through their manipulation of the media.

And not just that, but I think I also hear you saying that this same little cabal of "fucking cowards" is actually reactionary. They not only oppose change -- they oppose much needed change, although who it is, other than yourself, of course, who has determined the "much need" for any change at all is left unsaid.

Given your view of our party's leadership, I would guess that you are working very hard to engage grass-roots Democrats to change both the leadership and the other things that need -- much need -- change. Is that the "coup" to which your screenname refers?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

22. I thought the question was pretty straight-forward myself...

...how long are we willing to put up with an illegal government that has cost us so much, both domestically and internationally? How long are we going to stand by and allow more American troops to be killed in an illegal war based on a pack of lies? How long are we going to stand by and watch our social programs like Social Security get dismantled? How long are we going to allow millions of jobs to disappear overseas while Junior claims the economy is improving? How long are we going to allow gas prices to rise?

Would you like to call me something, too?

[outinforce]

34. 4:36 p.m. ...4:47 p.m.

The question, at the time of your post (4:47 p.m - EDT) was pretty straight-forward.

The question that I was responding to in my post (#3) was not the same question you saw. patsified edited it a 4:36 p.m -- EDT).

Suffice to say that patsified apparently thought that there was some validity to what I had to say (and so did tom_paine) that he edited the question.

I have since apologized to patsified for misunderstanding his question, and I have thanked him for editing the question.

And, no, I don't want to call you any names.

I might suggest, however, that it is sometimes good to read through a thread before making a post. That way, a person can sometimes see things before they post something that has already been addressed.

edited after I checked patsified's profile and discovered that he is a male. (sorry that I assumed that you were a female -- not that there is anything wrong with being a female, just to be clear about that.)

[booksenkatz]

38. Really? My profile says I'm a male? Geebus!

I better notify Skinner and have him return my stolen womanhood!
Dammmmmm!

[outinforce]

42. I Did Think That Lisa

was a strange name for a male.

But, then, who am I, of all people, to call someone else strange??

[Media_Lies_Daily]

45. Excuse me? Now I'm supposed to wait until the thread is...

...sufficiently long enough before I respond to a particular post? When, in your opinion, might that be?

Oh, brother...what next?

[outinforce]

49. I Shared A Piece of Advice With You

It was based upon some of my own experience.

Accept it if you wish.

Reject it if you wish.

Shoot, even post a hostile response, it that floats your boat.

[mitchtv]

4. other - a tax on SUVs

ask Ahhnold , he knows

[DenverDem]

5. Get the truth out about MIHOP

that ends the Power Elite reign of terror.

[Fenris]

6. I dig your avatar

Here's one for you, of Ann being a little more "animated":

[booksenkatz]

18. Love it!!

Lord, how did I miss that episode? What was it about? I'm sure they must've had Ann as the guest voice. Bet it was hilarious! I don't get to watch too much TV these days.

[Fenris]

24. Ann became involved with Bill after Hank mooned her at a hotel

It was an accident. The guys were staying at a hotel and tried to get Hank to loosen up. They managed to persuade him to drop his pants on the glass elevator. Unfortunately, Ann Richards was giving a speech below and Hank's ass was in full view. Bill took the fall for Hank, and he and Ann became romantically involved. Quite funny. And yes, it was indeed Gov. Richards' voice on the episode.

[booksenkatz]

26. OMG!

I'm sitting here laughing out loud just reading about it! I'll have to start recording the show, maybe they'll rerun it. Thanks!

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

7. Canceled elections would DEFINITELY cause a riot

But you're talking about overtly destroying the Constitution, which many people from ALL walks of life would fight against. The 9/11 Commission report has a good chance though, if it outs some pretty heinous stuff (which I doubt, since Bush has the opportunity to preview it before its released.)

[ConcernedCanuk]

10. What, no "other" ?

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How about shutting down the internet -

Just for National Security though - -

Don't want the citizens suffering from propoganda of "evil-doers" ya know?

. . :shrug: . .

[LynzM]

17. Wow.

Yeah, that would be... I can't even imagine it, really. Someone needs a DU calling tree, just in case ;) I hope I never have to look back on those words as a 'should have done it' issue. But there are so many of my friends who I communicate with solely by internet. Yipes.

[booksenkatz]

20. Now, THAT, my Canadian friend

is a real possibility (the shutting down of the Internet). I am not sure about an uproar, however. I think many people who use the Internet would just mosey back to their TV sets. Hmmmm, let me think about that one.

[ConcernedCanuk]

28. Shut ur 'puter down for a week, get back to me - ok ?

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Sad part of it is - I know too many teen-agers that most of their friends are on-line, not "Real" so too speak,

THEY would be devastated.

[booksenkatz]

31. Well, but I'm not like Average Joe

I don't use the Internet for entertainment or to hunt down pictures of nekkid boobies; it is my primary source of news and information. People like me would be badly inconvenienced; am not sure I could say the same of Ole Joe.

[PfcHammer]

15. scramble the prime time tv schedule n/t

[WI_DEM]

19. I voted for the gas prices at $5/ gallon

Hate to say it but I don't think even the election being cancelled will cause as much of an uproar as $5/ gallon gas prices with lots of people (not me). I think Bush would use cancelling the election as some kind of anti-terrorism act and that a surprising number of sheeple would go along with it.

[Used and Abused]

21. if football season was cancelled nt

[LeahMira]

23. None of the above...

[booksenkatz]

25. Wow, you're even more cynical than I am!

If ole Joe Amurka won't get up and complain about the loss of his comfort food, then good golly, he must be catatonic!

Laughing and crying here. (Wish DU had a smiley for that.)

[Hemprus]

27. I think

that it would take alot to spark the sheep into a riot. Maybe all of the above.

[kath]

30. Cancelling TV broadcasts -- especially sports, Survivor, American Idol,

etc.

I don't think cancelling the election would do it. It would take something like eliminating television.

Sad but true.

[sniffa]

32. stoLen eLection

[guitar man]

36. the blood will be on the RW's hands!

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable"- John F. Kennedy

That day,sadly,could be quickly approaching. The RW,with it's co-opting of all the media outlets,hate mongering,the patriot act etc. etc. are attempting to make peaceful revolution impossible,and have damn near succeeded from what I can tell.

I don't want to see the streets run red with the blood of patriots and tyrants.God help us all if we can't get this thing turned around.

[mcar]

37. I'd march if the elections were cancelled

but don't take away my cheetos.

[camero]

39. If people can't buy food

I think they'll mostly just ho-hum if elections are cancelled. Most don't vote anyway. But make em hungry enough to be starving to death and people will do lots of things they wouldn't normally do.

I guess we've learned nothing from the French Revolution.

[MrSlayer]

40. We aren't going to see a nationwide riot for any reason.

Only one quarter of the population even cares about any of this. Half don't care at all and another quarter are on the Bush's side no matter what. Most people are content to sit home and watch "Gay Marriages to Midget Survivors of Animal Attacks" and the world be damned. Americans generally are apathetic about politics and political games, it would take something stupid like depriving them of the aforementioned TV shows to get them that riled up.

[ikojo]

44. The elections are important to us on DU because we are

political junkies. I am not sure most people realize this is a presidential election year. Look the baseball season has started. People are now focused on how their team is doing. I would even venture to say MOST people don't even know the name of the presumptive Democratic nominee.

It was a difficult choice for me between the cheetos and the gas prices. But considering people love their cars I chose the $5.00 gas prices.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

47. None of the above, if

either the Super Bowl or American Idol is on. :-(

[kath]

50. kick

[JimT]

51. People would riot nationwide

if the draft was started up again.

[Ysabel]

52. food and another vote for food...

another duer sitting next to me - although offline at the moment - agrees that food would do it too...

i just remembered this - my ex sister in law once tried to stab me with a big old butcher knife - we were wrestling over a can of god-awful diarrhea inducing government beans...

[IronLionZion]

53. When we riot, they'll just say the usual

crazy liberals are out of control and hate America.

Then they will say we need to put these traitors down and bring in martial law to major cities.