Replace Randi Rhodes with Ed Shultz

[quinnox]

This guy is far more entertaining to me than Rhodes. Interestingly, his voice kinda sounds like Limbaugh and he reminds me of a smart leftist version of Limbaugh.

Rhodes is rude and she makes me want to tell her to shut up, it is all about her opinions and she sounds like an egomaniac.

[MSgt213]

1. Absolutely fucking not. I want both! Why can't I have both!

The repubs got all they want.

[rucky]

40. Here's both:

www.super62.com

Ed 12-3; Randi 3-7

[Jane Austin]

2. No! She's a kick!

I LOVE RR and Clever Husband has figured out how to tape her and off-load the program to my iPod for portability.

[ronnykmarshall]

3. HELL no!

[utopian]

4. We get both in Portland

Interestingly, Rhodes was dissing Shultz yesterday, while earlier in the day, Shultz refused to be baited into dissing Franken and air america. I like Randi, but I don't know if it's a good idea attacking allies with the enemy at the gate.

Anyway, I'm glad to have access to both.

[Lefty_the_Right]

5. Yeah right, Ed, the former Republican?

Maybe you should look up his history before you agree to ride his bandwagon.

I'm not saying that some cannot change their mind, but Randi has been consistant.

I think most people that criticize Randi have a dislike for strong women.

Don't freak out, just think about it for a couple of minutes.

[codegreen]

6. Ed's alright, but don't take Randi from us

call in some day and tell her about her ego and how she doesn't shut up.
it'll be entertaining.

[supernova]

7. Why can't there be both?

They both do the same style of schtick. There's room for both of them on the dial.

Why is it that if Ed indugles in it he's a "smart leftist version of Limbaugh." If Randi indulges in the exact same behavior she "sounds like an egomaniac."

I don't understand this. Really I don't. :crazy:

[quinnox]

8. I think Ed would pull higher ratings for Air America

Randi is a turn off, she will pull the network down.

she rubs people the wrong way, what can I say.

[Joe the Revelator]

10. Who does she rub the wrong way??....Repubs?

I'm a liberal and i think she's great. She hold feet to the fire and we need that. Schultz reminds me so much of limbaugh that i can't continue to listen to him.

[sangh0]

11. BS

She rubs YOU the wrong way. Stop pretending that everyone agrees with you

[supernova]

13. She rubs "people" or

she just rubs "you" the wrong way. It remains to be seen whether you are the majority of liberal listeners or not.

[indigo32]

16. IMO Randi has done well wherever she has been

she deserves this shot. She may rub some the wrong way, but many people like her, myself included.

[americanstranger]

43. Go and look at Randi's Arbitron ratings.

There's a reason she was hired and Schultz wasn't - she's a ratings winner.

Schultz has had nowhere near the success Randi has had on radio. Not even close.

-as

[wyldwolf]

58. Americanstranger, have you noticed that every time you or I or anyone...

...mentions Randi's stellar track record, ratings wise, her detractors fall silent?

Used to be, someone might say, "ratings shouldn't matter."

Silly statement then, sillier now. Air America isn't NPR. It's survival depends on ratings revenue.

So, people, give it up. Randi is in afternoon drive for a reason. She's successful.

[sangh0]

59. I"ve noticed

.

[americanstranger]

63. Yep.

People don't seem to realize that in radio, ratings are what really matter. And those same people don't realize that Randi was hired, specifically, because the has had kick-ass ratings for the past ten years. Ratings mean money. Money means building the network. Building the network means that in two or three years, people out in the flyover states who are listening over their computers now might be able to go out and get in their cars and hear the network.

There is a reason she is there, and they can't argue with that. So instead, they whine about how 'grating' or 'rude' or 'brash' she is.

NEWS FLASH! That's the reason she got the goddam drive-time show and wannabes like Ed Schultz didn't! And I know for a fact that Schultz was being considered for that slot and was passed on.

So why should AA get rid of the person they figured would succeed in that time slot and replace her with someone who they already decided wouldn't make it in that time slot?

-as

[wyldwolf]

68. I think much of it comes from the attitude that anything commercial...

..and profitable is somehow of lesser quality than that which is less successful.

But like I said, the opposite of Randi has been tried for liberal radio and has hasn't achieved much success.

What is funny is that SOME of these same people decry the fact that Mike Malloy isn't in the lineup but his is just as combative as Randi.

Ponderous! Fucking ponderous!

[Sandpiper]

14. It's because she's a woman

Like Newt said, when a man speaks his mind, he's assertive; when a woman speaks her mind, she's a ball busting bitch.

It's a big, fat double standard, and it bothers me to see people at DU indulging in it.

I guess Randi should just run along and bake some cookies until she learns to be more sweet and feminine on the air.

Forget that! Give 'em hell Randi!

[quinnox]

18. Randi "a ball busting bitch"

I didn't say that, but she does kind of remind me of types of people I have encountered in the past.

Yep, people can be bitches sometimes. It's reality.

[Sandpiper]

23. And sometimes it's reality

That people are made uncomfortable by a woman who's not afraid to speak her mind.

Every time I've seen replacing Randi suggested on DU, her suggested replacement has been a man.

[maggrwaggr]

32. I find your attitude insulting

as a man who has no problem with women busting anyone's balls, as long as they deserve it, for you to suggest that I find Randi's voice grating, and annoying and find her loose with the facts BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE WOMEN and think they should be BAKING COOKIES is a goddamn insult to me.

Take your prejudices elsewhere.

[sangh0]

33. "for you to suggest that I find Randi's voice grating"???

Who said anything about YOU?

[maggrwaggr]

34. "it bothers me to see people at DU indulging in it. "

Obviously Sandpiper was saying that if I find Randi's voice grating that I think she should be baking cookies and that I think women shouldn't be ball busting radio hosts.

I may not have been the original poster, but I am a person who thinks Randi Rhodes is grating and annoying and I can barely stand listening to her.

[supernova]

37. You maggrwaggr don't like Randi, fine

but that doesn't mean she doesn't belong in the lineup. That doesn't me she hasn't earned her slot in the big time, as others have pointed out.

[sangh0]

48. "Obviously Sandpiper was saying..."

Obviously?

I think not. Sandpiper said "And sometimes it's reality"

SOMETIMES!! Not ALWAYS

[supernova]

24. And what would you have Randi do

exactly? Be some nice nice liberal Stepford Wife?

[sangh0]

28. quinnox, do you have problem with womens voices?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1353649#1353936

[apnu]

42. she is a "ball busting bitch" and I love that about her!

women should be allowed to be assertive... ball busting or not.

Keep it up Randi! Bust away!

[maggrwaggr]

30. You are so 1000% wrong on that

I love women and I love women's voices and I'd much rather listen to a woman talk, or sing, or whatEVER.

But Randi Rhodes voice is EXTREMELY grating. It's very difficult to listen to her, even when I like what she's saying.

If I had to sit next to her in a restaurant, I'd have to move away. I couldn't take it.

She's obnoxious. Has nothing to do with her gender. Get over your OWN bias.

[sangh0]

31. Maybe not you, but I wonder about others

In addition to complaining about Randi, quinnox also seems to have a problem with Franken's female co-host, who is also "grating"

[Missy Vixen]

67. Okay. Let me get this straight.

>Like Newt said, when a man speaks his mind, he's assertive; when a woman speaks her mind, she's a ball busting bitch.
It's a big, fat double standard, and it bothers me to see people at DU indulging in it.<

We're talking about banning a certain five-letter word beginning with "B" and ending with "itch", but I have read every generality and slam about strong, intelligent women on this thread.

Am I at DU, or did I stumble into some kind of alternate universe?

Julie

[Lefty_the_Right]

9. What the heck, we need more waffles, right?

The Schultz Shuffle

If you had been watching Ed Schultz's dance card over the last decade, you would have noticed quite a shift. Once adoringly in the arms of Republicans, the talk-show host now waltzes with the Democrats, making him the most notable team switcher since Anne Heche. Here, some of his sharpest moves.

Move 1: Homelessness

Turn to the right: "Yeah, it's cold out, but you'd think these people could figure out how to get out of it. How about getting a job?" - 1993

Now turn to the left:"A lot of these homeless folks are Vietnam veterans. . . . We've turned our back on these people after they gave to the country. What's wrong with this picture?" - 2001

Move 2: Farm Subsidies

Slide to the right:"The American farmer's hat is bent from being stuck in the mailbox waiting for the government check." - 1994

Now slide to the left: "This country can't survive without the American farmer. . . . We aren't just subsidizing the farmer, we are making it possible for every American to purchase food." - 2000

Move 3: Universal Health Care

Dip to the right: "Why should I have to take care of somebody down the street because I am successful and they have failed?" - 1995

Now dip to the left: "The health-care industry and the lack of coverage for millions of Americans has to be on the table. We need a universal package." - 2001


http://www.bigeddieradio.com/news.view.html?newsItemId=103

[quinnox]

12. He saw the light, people are free to change their minds for gods sakes

He sees things differently than how he used to.

[librechik]

15. excuse me, "she makes me want to tell her to shut up."?

Hey, you don't have to marry her. Just allow other people to listen to her. There's this thing called an off button....

[Jane Austin]

29. HaHa!

I was thinking about that yesterday.

I love to listen to her, but I don't think I would want to be married to her - - even if I weren't a woman.

I don't require perfection in my friends either, using the same standard. I wouldn't want to be married to them, but I sure like, enjoy or respect them.

[xultar]

17. Soooo, instead of doing things our own way you wanna copy Limbaugh

and the RW Well all I have to say is...
:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:

[sangh0]

21. News Flash! - Limbaugh is a conservative

Funny how the "there's no difference" crowd never gets that there is a difference between liberals and conservatives

[Touchdown]

53. Also funny that Nader fans have a big problem with Randi's

"Grating and shrill voice" and they also say "There's no difference" all the time, just like their guru. Hmmm, interesting.:eyes:

[Sandpiper]

61. The Naderites hate Randy

Because she hurt their feelings when she dressed down their Messiah on her show.

Oh well.

[sangh0]

62. Randi dissed Nader, and now "there's no difference"

between her and Limbaugh

[Sandpiper]

64. So true

sigh...

[quinnox]

22. No, I just want a better host for Air America

Randi needs to go.

[bagimin]

56. The Number One Host needs to go??

Makes sense.

[supernova]

19. I guarantee quinnox

would not tell me to my face "to shut up." ;-)

[Bombtrack]

20. Shultz sounds "kinda" like Limbaugh? The guy is like a carbon copy

with the voice the cadence, the generous use of the word "folks", slapping the table etc etc etc.

It's really disturbing.

[supernova]

25. I know

I listened some to him before my sound system went out, but I digress.

The Rush imitation made me think: Is this all we got? Just some cheap imitation of Rush? Surely we can do better than that.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

26. I like Ed Schultz, but he unlike Randi Rhodes is a recent convert....

to the Liberal(Good Side) of things.

Randi has been with us for 15 years!!!! She deserves her prime spot on Air America!

[Lefty_the_Right]

27. According to the poll yesterday

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1350047

[Zinfandel]

35. Fuck all these threatened men...Rhodes is a powerful liberal voice

that is heard and enjoyed...with a snap out of the doldrums voice and attitude, to millions...and that's the bottom line, she gets the liberal point across to millions. (I know she bothers your oh so expanded vision of a woman and perhaps hurts your little ears, so, so...much, itchy-cooo, now lie down and try and get some sleep.) ...Anyway, Randi turns me on when she giggles!!!

[supernova]

36. I really laughed Friday

at the "Shake Your Boobies" song. LOL! I thought it was cute. :D

[Skittles]

38. OMG, it's PITIFUL, isn't it?

I LIKE HER.

[apnu]

44. preach on! (eom)

[supernova]

39. Interesting that quinnox

has left this thread. :shrug:

[sangh0]

50. Even more interesting

is that in another thread, quinnox is complaining about Franken's FEMALE co-host. Her voice is also "grating"

[Zinfandel]

51. So I hit right on the money with my post above...Hmmmm

[sangh0]

52. But strangely enough

Franken's nasal tones are soothing

[supernova]

54. Yes, go figure

Franken is definitely nasally, but I don't find him whiny.

Franken's co-host, forgot her name, is there to keep them on schedule and make sure station IDs get done and commercials air when they are supposed to, so I don't have a problem with her.

[americanstranger]

41. Schultz is a Republican.

He became a 'radio liberal' when he saw there was money in it.

And from what I know of Schultz, he's a pretty big egomaniac, himself.

Screw him.

-as

[Zinfandel]

45. Well that kinda makes sense, because it fits this whole thread.

[xultar]

46. Well Said! n/t

[Suziq]

47. Hey quinnox -

She's on now (3:00pm EDT)! Time to turn off your radio or internet stream. Your loss . . . .

I :loveya:, Randi!

[phrenzy]

49. I find her annoying as hell

And I know plenty of female liberal voices that I found did a better job at making me nod along and actually giving out INFORMATION without sounding annoying and self important.

Sean Nicks who used to be on KGO was GREAT - She used humor and could corner the most hardcore freeper with ease.

Now that I think about it RR reminds me of a female Michael Savage - and I can't stand that guy but I know a lot of freeps like him.. so..

But, If people like her I have no problem with her being on AA - I just may not listen or maybe I'll eventually get in to her over time. Don't know, but as of now - she just hurts my ears and I don't really see her as a powerful voice.

[samsingh]

55. Randi is a liberal - i fully support her

why can't we have both.

you're right that Ed sounds like the limbaugh.

[democracyindanger]

57. I like both

I like Schultz because he's great radio. But apparently, to some in this thread, you have to be born liberal to be liberal--which is a pretty moronic view to take, but to each his own.

I like Rhodes, too. But she does talk over callers a lot, which can be annoying. And apparently, to some in this thread, that makes me a 'threatened man.'

Sometimes I wonder if we were better off without AAR. :shrug:

[maddezmom]

60. why replace Randi, why not just add Shultz?

:shrug:

[Imalittleteapot]

65. No. No. No. Add Shultz to the line-up (along with

Mike Malloy) and keep Randi. I love her.

[WillyT]

66. Funny How Moderate Men Are So Offended By 'Uppity' Women !!!

Same way they don't like having a woman for a boss, I guess...

:shrug:

Replace Rhandi???

:wtf:

[wyldwolf]

69. uh... it's not the moderates here who have problems with Randi...

..it's the more left of those here who do.

[Bread and Circus]

70. I love Randi, what are you talking about?

She's awesome.