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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 05:35 PM
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Is it really standard to always address a prez. as "Mr./Ms. President"?
I mean, I would think "sir" is plenty formal...

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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 05:36 PM
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1. "sir" is 1,000,000 times more formal than "stretch"
Edited on Mon Apr-05-04 05:36 PM by arcane1
did Bush wipe his glasses on that reporter, too? :shrug:
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 06:48 PM
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21. On a Letterman staffer
Edited on Mon Apr-05-04 06:48 PM by jackstraw45


What a rude punk.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 06:50 PM
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22. that should've cost him the election right f-ing there
damned librul media :grr:
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 05:36 PM
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2. Yes. That is standard OP.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 05:37 PM
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3. Has anyone else dared to say Sir?


I don't recall any President putting down the Press in this way.
Especially a Press that has kissed up to him night and day.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 05:40 PM
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4. yeah I'm sure it's happened but
Shrub is the only preznit to go apeshit over it...
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 05:42 PM
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5. Maybe because he knows he didn't earn it
Perhaps it's the same reason he needs "George W. Bush, President" embroidered on those shirts and jackets -- have you all seen those?
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 05:45 PM
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6. Are you serious? I haven't seen them.
Where can I find a photo of them?
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 05:56 PM
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11. Not sure where there's a photo
but it's his "ranchwear" costumes -- the denim shirts and windbreaker jackets and such. Anybody else have a pic?
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 03:56 AM
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29. How 'bout some gen-u-wine presidential boots?

Story: Texans let hair down for cowboy George

Tacky. The story doesn't mention if the bootmaker put an "L" and an "R" on them to help Bunnypants get dressed... :eyes:
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 05:54 PM
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9. Here is just one example of Bush being addressed as "sir"...
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030306-8.html

...

THE PRESIDENT: The price of doing nothing exceeds the price of taking action, if we have to. We'll do everything we can to minimize the loss of life. The price of the attacks on America, the cost of the attacks on America on September the 11th were enormous. They were significant. And I am not willing to take that chance again, John.

Terry Moran.

Q Thank you, sir. May I follow up on Jim Angle's question? In the past several weeks, your policy on Iraq has generated opposition from the governments of France, Russia, China, Germany, Turkey, the Arab League and many other countries, opened a rift at NATO and at the U.N., and drawn millions of ordinary citizens around the world into the streets in anti-war protests. May I ask, what went wrong that so many governments and people around the world now not only disagree with you very strongly, but see the U.S. under your leadership as an arrogant power?

...

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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 05:49 PM
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7. The title "sir" is perfectly appropriate for addressing a president...
Edited on Mon Apr-05-04 05:58 PM by The Night Owl
Bush and other presidents have been addressed as "sir" countless times. Never before has any president taken offense to being addressed as "sir". Now, all of a sudden, Bush takes offense to being addressed as "sir". Why?

Very weird.

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Snow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 05:52 PM
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8. Appalling degree of ignorance. Kings & queens get addressed as
'Sir' and 'ma'am'. The twerp doesn't even his royal etiquette down right.
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DivinBreuvage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 05:54 PM
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10. I'm emailing Bush to let him know....
I believe they used the term "Your Excellency" in Washington's time. Just wait till he finds that out.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 05:57 PM
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12. "Your Highness?"
As I posted on another thread, they probably called him that throughout his 40-year "youth" (when it seems he spent alot of time high).
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hiphopnation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 05:59 PM
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13. NO!!
And off with your head for suggesting so...

:D
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DivinBreuvage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 06:15 PM
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14. How about "The Greatest Warlord of All Time"?
Since the last one to bear that title was Adolf Hitler, it would be fitting to pass it on to Prescott's grandbaby.
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 06:18 PM
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15. Maybe, after what bushie said today
members of the press will say to bushie "who you talking too?" when he uses one of those stupid nicknames he gives everyone.

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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 06:20 PM
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16. What would happen if he addressed
you and you called him Chimpy, or Whistle Ass or Bottom-Feeding Scum Sucker or Assmaster or something like that?

Seriously, would the secret service haul you off or would you just be politely asked to leave?
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 06:31 PM
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18. that would be so funny
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DivinBreuvage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 06:30 PM
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17. Or, while he's making Iraq safe for democracy maybe he'll pick this one up
The Assyrian king Assurbanipal liked to make up poems about how great he was. I've adapted one for the bestest president ever:

"I am George Bush, King of the Universe, King of America, for whom God has decreed a destiny of heroism....

"From my childhood, the Great God who dwells in Heaven and on Earth has granted me His favor. Like a real father He raised me, and instructed me in His exalted way....

"Like the onset of a terrible hurricane I overwhelmed Iraq in its entirety. I captured Saddam, their braggart king, who had plotted evil. In countless numbers I killed his people.... Iraq's cities I besieged, I captured, I destroyed, I devastated, I burned them with fire....

"I am George Bush, the great King, the mighty King, King of the Universe, King of America, King of the world's four regions, King of Kings, unrivaled Prince, who at the command of Jehovah holds sway over the planet, and has brought into submission at his feet all princes."
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 06:45 PM
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19. That's the standard.
http://www.cftech.com/BrainBank/OTHERREFERENCE/FORMSOFADDRESS/SpkWritFrmsAddr.html

But I think "sir" would be sufficiently respectful to not raise any eyebrows, much less merit the behavior displayes by his dickiness.
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 06:46 PM
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20. Isn't the whole point of the title
to seperate the man and the office?
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Sannum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 02:39 AM
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23. It sounds like
He is so insecure, that he constantly needs to be reminded that he is "President". Several Years ago, I had the chance to meet the Crown Prince of Norway. I called him "Your Royal Highness" first, and "Sir" for the rest of the evening. "Sir" is a proper way to address chimpy, but personally, I would be tempted to call him "Lieutenant AWOL" just to piss him off. I would love to see his face...
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 02:53 AM
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24. NOOO!! Read Clinton Q&A
http://www.usembassy-israel.org.il/publish/peace/archives/2000/october/me1011a.html

My god, a reporter even says "critics of the administration's policy".... and he LIVES!!! (Well I think he lives, I haven't heard of any reporters being on the Clinton Body Count)

"Q: Mr. President, did your peace plan for the Middle East ever contemplate sovereignty for the Palestinians in East Jerusalem?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, the last thing I think we need to be doing now is talking about -- I think you know what we talked about at Camp David and what we've talked about since has been fairly well publicized.

Q: No, it hasn't. I don't know what your plan is."


Q: Can I follow up on that for one second? A follow-up on that for one second?

Q: Some critics of the administration's policy blame some of the --

Q: -- spoke of fact-finding as an agreement to return to negotiations, do you need to see those before you agree to go to the Mideast or send a representative?

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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 02:58 AM
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25. Did any of them
ever get called "bully"?

What did his attitude have to do with the fact that he called out the AP reporter FIRST? It's almost like someone told him to do that. So natch he was p-o'd already for 'taking orders'. ? Or the AP guy was coached to say "Mr. Prez", and flubbed his line. Something ....
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 03:04 AM
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26. I believe it is considered proper decorum to say Mr. President.
Edited on Tue Apr-06-04 03:05 AM by MrSlayer
I remember when my Electricians Union class got to attend a private rally with Bill Clinton at City Hall in Philly. We were told beforehand to address him as Mr. President should we be fortunate enough to meet him.
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Columbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 03:18 AM
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27. It was precedent set by George Washington
He refused to be called "His Highness", "Your Excellency" or any other type of royal title. He settled for simply being called "Mr. President" and Presidents have been called that ever since.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 03:32 AM
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28. Washington, Jefferson Et Al wanted the opposite of formal...
While aristocrats in American terms of the time, our founding fathers were far from the lavish lushes of the European caste systems they were now free of. Thus, formal titles were shunned in the creation of a citizen government.

The Constitution almost reads like a job description...titles are given, but not anything being the basic requirements of the job. There isn't any codified name or protocol...only "rituals" set down by later generations as this nation became empirical in scope.

If you think about it, the only salutation I've ever heard associated with the President has been "Mister"...as in "Mister President" or "Mister Clinton"...that should be sufficient.

Bunnypants lives in a bubble that has only increased in his 3 years of near solitary confinement to Bizarro world. You don't hear of celebrities or special events being held at the White House, or Bunnypants going to the Kennedy Center...always a fundraiser in some hive (with antsy kids). He truely believes what his handlers tell him and dismisses those who aren't "one of his". Another reason to dump this chump and his henchmen.
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