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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 12:22 PM
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Hypothesis on Rice Testimony: WH made deal to save Bush/Cheney from oath
I bet that the 9/11 commission threated to subpoena all three: Rice, Bush and Cheney to testify UNDER OATH and the White House cut a deal to save Bush and Cheney from the oath.

My guess.
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dryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 12:23 PM
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1. Especially Cheney
If Rice testifies and has to give evidence, I think Cheney is afraid he and his energy task force will be next.
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 07:09 PM
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22. Maybe more specially Rove and Wolfy.
Condi's testimony can point to one of them, and there will be nothing the commission-joke can do about it.
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mikey_1962 Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 12:24 PM
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2. Clinton refused to let Dick Clarke testify in 1999 about Y2K citing
Executive Priv; same as Bush
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Lindsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 12:27 PM
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3. I don't know what to think...
I'm feeling so fearful right now. I'm thinking that the repubs on the commission have agreed to ask the questions in a way that will make * come out looking good and the dems (for reasons I swear to God I don't understand) will be silent.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 12:27 PM
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4. So?
I simply adore that Republicans are citing Bill Clinton as their standard of conduct.
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mikey_1962 Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 12:52 PM
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8. I am a Demcrat Pal; But I do like the knee jerk ad hominem
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:34 PM
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21. so what are you saying? That Republicans AREN'T using that example?
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 12:28 PM
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5. Martha's Lawyers didn't let her testify in 2003 about stock purchase
Dick Clarke was NOT NSA and 1999 was NOT 2001.

GOP talking points again trying to deflect from the issues.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 12:56 PM
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9. But....
Testifying before Congress and testifying before a hand-picked commission by Bush (as the 9/11 commission is), is not the same thing.
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 01:52 PM
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19. Y2K was a little less severe than 911's 3,000 deaths.

It's not then same. It's not even close.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 07:28 PM
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24. and unless clinton and gore agreed to be sworn, bush wouldn't
be expected to ..nor cheney.
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 12:31 PM
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6. I agree. But I don't think the 9-11 Commission had the stomach for that..
... so they were not really sacrificing anything in their minds.

It's been like pulling teeth for them to get this far.
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BabsSong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 12:31 PM
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7. I caught something else when the media read this announcement
They had also gone from Bush meeting with just to two co-chairs to meeting with the whole panel BUT together with Cheney!!--NO BUSH ALONE---now doesn't that just speak volumes??? ... our noble, brave leader; ie., the lying dumb bastard they have to desperately keep on a chain. How dumb can this public be??
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 07:14 PM
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23. Its because they're lovers
They don't want to get married, but cheney loves bush's astrology chart, especially his-anus. Those boys have been fucking each other for a long time .... of course in an open realtionship where they can each fuck pigs between gettogethers.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 01:06 PM
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10. It really doesn't matter
Because Bush & Cheney never intended on testifying under oath to the Commission anyway. I'm just happy they're going to be answering questions from the full commission.

Let's also not forget, this doesn't prevent them from being subpoenaed to testify before a grand jury. :D
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 01:09 PM
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11. "The Oath"
That would make a great Reality TV show.

I'd watch it.
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 01:12 PM
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12. This will backfire - BIGTIME!! Once the public is done with CONdi -
They'll want Bush and Cheney - and the roar will grow steadily! As far as the public is concerned - after seeing CONtheSleezer testify on the networks they are going to wonder why they aren't seeing their brave, oh so brave president testifying publicly - as well as the real president - his puppetmaster Prick Cheney!
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 01:23 PM
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14. Clinton and Gore should have offered to....
testify publically under oath. Thus, further calling attention to the fact that Chimp and Cheney refuse to do so.
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 01:33 PM
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16. You're right!
:evilfrown:
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 01:37 PM
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17. Hey Blasphemer...Clinton and Gore have both volunteered to go under oath!
they are going to testify in public under oath...where have you been feeding at the repuke talking points trough?
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:02 PM
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20. I thought....
Edited on Tue Mar-30-04 02:06 PM by Blasphemer
They were going under oath privately, not publically? People will hear the "privately" part and assume it's the same as with * and Cheney. Publically, there would be no doubt as to the difference.

"Former President Bill Clinton and former Vice President Al Gore agreed last month to private meetings without restrictions."

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040330/ap_on_go_pr_wh/sept_11_commission_45
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 01:22 PM
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13. Yeah but to the American people Bush and Cheney will both
appear to be hiding something. And they are.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 01:30 PM
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15. yuppers 2nd condition for Condi's testimony under oath & in public........
"That NO other White House officials be called to testify under oath."
that IS the condition bush wanted and by holding out to the bitter end do you think the 911 Commission will agree to it??? I hope NOT!
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worldgonekrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 01:37 PM
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18. If the Commission did agree to it, would it be binding?
I mean what if they said "sure" and then after bombshells are dropped in Condi's testimony they come back and said "well we didn't know about THIS when we said okay before." Would that work? I don't really expect you to know...just a thought.
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