Clarke Voted for Gore

[cynicinthesouth]

apparently this came up on Meet the Press (just saw on Drudge). I had heard all week that he voted for Bush and was thrilled. This looks bad. My republican husband is smirking at this latest revelation. And polls show that most people doubt him. I think this Clarke thing is gonna backfire. I'm getting worried. I hope Condi screws up tonight.

[Kadie]

1. Yes, but

Clarke voted for McCain in the primary.

As I stated in an earlier post, he must not have had confidence in bush since he is a republican that supported McCain, then cast his vote for Gore.

[pinkpops]

8. most interesting...

[Oddman]

73. I smell

TROLL!

My head is stuffed too!

[Catherine Vincent]

17. That's what I think.

Clark probably didn't want to vote for Bush* because he knew he'd be working for a dumbass.

[Kadie]

24. A Link from Salon

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/03/24/clarke_moveon/index1.html

Is it true that you're a registered Republican, as someone told me yesterday?

Well, I vote in Virginia, and you can't register as a Republican or a Democrat in Virginia. The only way that anybody ever knows your party affiliation in Virginia is when you vote in a primary, because you have to ask for either a Republican or a Democratic ballot. And in the year 2000, I voted in the Republican presidential primary. That's the only record in the state of Virginia of my interest or allegiance.

Will you tell me whom you voted for in the Republican presidential primary in Virginia in 2000?

Yeah, I voted for John McCain.

[IronLionZion]

70. who Clark voted for is nobody's business

so he should have just told Tim Russert to get lost

[ibegurpard]

2. So what?

The only people who should be allowed to criticize this administration are the ones who voted for it?

[Trajan]

3. WHICH Polls ? ...

Please: Enlighten us ...

[cynicinthesouth]

9. It's on AOL news

about people doubting him. Why was our side saying all week "well he voted for Bush" ?? I thought that made a powerful argument that he USED to support Bush. How did we get that wrong?

[Catherine Vincent]

21. We were'nt saying he voted for Bush*, we were saying that Clarke was a

republican. And, he is. A republican that voted for Al Gore. Clark knew Bush* would be a lightweight.

[pinkpops]

4. I wouldn't worry about that

My initial reaction was the same, but he will get a few points for honesty. And as a non-political appointee (apparently - who woulda thunk?) it is no sign of disloyalty just for being of a different party. Fact is, the battle lines are drawn, in my company lunchroom, at least. Any pro-Bush can do no wrong for the Bushies. Anyone who crosses him is partisan or has ulterior motives. Looks like a squeaker.

[yardwork]

5. What difference does it make?

The people who want to believe that Clarke is working for the Dems will believe it no matter what. Rational people don't care about Clarke, they want to know the truth about the questions he's raising.

Also, since votes are secret, Clarke must have revealed this himself, so he obviously doesn't worry about it. He didn't have to reveal this.

The fact that Clarke saw that W was an idiot and voted against him is a major point in his favor, in my opinion. I'd have less respect for him if he had voted for Shrub.

[Mari333]

6. Im so sorry you are married to a republican

tell him this mother of a soldier in Iraq is losing her mind with worry from a war that never should have happened.
Tell him that all the other kids in the US are next according to Bush and Cheney

http://www.bushdraft.com

tell him military families are being screwed by the Bush admin.
totally screwed.

http://www.mfso.org

[ChompySnack]

7. Yeah, right

The guy worked for Reagan, Bush Sr. and says he voted for McCain.
A person's votes are their own business in this country.
He's innoculated.

[cynicinthesouth]

11. The fact that he voted for McCain

is even worse ! Proving he doesn't like the Bushes. Yes my republican husband drives me crazy. He thinks it's a godsend to have all these white men beating up on Condi Rice ...a black woman. Yikes I think he may be right. This isn't exactly a great PR move.

[yardwork]

20. Your husband is glad that white men are beating up on a black woman?

Are you ok in this relationship? I'm asking seriously. It sounds like your husband might have some abusive tendencies. If you ever have any doubts, get out. Make plans ahead of time to find a safe place to go. I'm saying this out of total sincerity for your health and well-being.

[cynicinthesouth]

26. You're Missing the Point

he thinks all these white men beating up on a black woman (not literally) makes democrats look really bad in the eyes of the general black public.

[bagnana]

60. that is absolute B.S. and you know it.

only the right wingers (Ann Coulter) are making that stupid argument, and only the right wingers are buying it.

[Athletic Grrl]

62. Your "husband"

doesn't know many black people, does he?

[Kadie]

32. Doesn't have anything to do with not liking the bushies

Clarke is an intelligent man. He has devoted 30 years to public service. He knew what was going on behind the scenes. He wouldn't vote for someone or not vote for someone due to personal feelings. He would vote for the one he felt most qualified to handle this countries and the worlds issues.

That is the way I see it.

[Wickerman]

10. He's a registered Republican

or at least was in 2000. How is this bad? He knew Bush* was an idiot. He did everything that was asked of him, staying on to finish cyberspace plan before he bowed out. That the Republicans, and your husband, want to make this such a game of political football and never demonstrate concern to what caused 911 or even consider that we have opened a Pandora's box in the ME, simple indicates they have been Republican too long. They no longer recognize independence and integrity when they see it in front of them.

[cynicinthesouth]

14. A Registered Republican

who doesn't like Bush. That proves my point. It seems almost personal. I think this Clarke deal is gonna backfire. I have a bad feeling about it. And more books are coming out and the pile up is gonna continue. I think half the reason Arnold won in California is the huge backlash against all the negative media coverage against him right before election. I think people rebel against it.

I pray I'm wrong.

[trumad]

25. Uh huhhhhh ...yah sure.... uhhh OK

whatever you say...errrr...OKKKKK eeee DDDoookiiiieeeee...

Repuke Hubby.... How utterly disgusting to know that when you hop in bed at night you're sleeping next to a stinkin Repuke. Dontcha feel stained? Dontcha feel dirty....

Oh and BTW: The reason Arrrnold is sitting where he is in CA is because nasty ass repukes like your husband put his facist ass there.....

Do yourself a favor...Divorce the creep and clenase yourself....

[tkmorris]

28. LOL sure

If you pray you are wrong why do you try so hard to keep the Clarke doubts going? You really are going out of your way here. Try posting something positive if it worries you so.

[Wickerman]

49. Sorry

to see I wasted my time here. I actually thought there might be a conversation. My bad.

[w13rd0]

52. You seem pretty strident...

...pardon me if I can't help but to laugh. He didn't like Bush because he knew Bush was a creep. Lot of Republicans that liked McCain felt the same way. Some of them even worked on the campaigns of Democratic nominees. So he thought Bush was going to be weak, and focus on all the wrong areas, and he did. Just proves he has better judgement than your husband.

[remfan]

12. Well of course he voted for Gore

he wanted to work on terrorism and the best way to have done that would have been to work for Gore who would have continued the Clinton policies on terrorism & probably enhanced them. Gore wouldn't have rejected Hart-Ruddman, Gore wouldn't have had to literally start from scratch on this issue which as anyone can see meant something to Clarke.

The guy's been in gov't service for 30 years, he knew EXACTLY who the bushies were & what they were about long before they got there. He'd have been a fool to vote for bush.

[EdGy]

13. absolutely irrelevant

this is yet another desperate attempts by the Republicans to try to "smear" Clarke.

And yet another piece of evidence that he is right on the money. These people are corrupt liars who deserve to burn in hell.

[cynicinthesouth]

18. No I think it was OUR side

who came out saying he voted for Bush (thus proving he's not partisan). Where did we get out wrong info from?

[tkmorris]

31. Where are you dragging this info from?

How does "our side" even KNOW who he voted for if he didn't volunteer the info himself? You have a link to any of this?

[yardwork]

36. "Our side" as you call it does not have an official opinion.

We only know what Clarke himself has said. Anybody who said that Clarke voted for Bush was making a guess. How does that hurt Clarke?

It seems to me that you are here mostly to get some negative spin going on Clarke.

[KC21304]

41. I never heard or read anywhere Clarke voted for Bush.

I heard he worked for Reagan, Bush I, Clinton and Bush. He voted in Republican primary. I guess people assumed he voted for Bush, but then he was asked who he voted for and he said McCain. End of story.

[bagnana]

61. that, again is pure bull and (again) you know it.

No one here said he voted for Bush, nor did he. He voted for a republican in the primaries, he worked for two republican presidents. Again, nice try. What is next -- oh yes, I think you forgot "he was out of the loop".

[Robin Hood]

15. proves that If Gore had won, 9/11 would not have happened.

If it is right, It shows that Clarke had more confidence in Gore than Bush, and this further drives home the point that if Gore had been rightfully elected, 9/11 would have never happened. It would have been stopped just like the millennium attacks were stopped.

Perhaps this is why Gore conceded to the inept Kennebunkport Texan. he understood the urgency this country was facing in the fight against Al Qaeda and conceded for the safety of his country. It is sad that he conceded for that reason only to have this band of irresponsible thugs drop the ball as bad as they did.

I truly believe now that 9/11 would not have happened if Gore had been in office. The economy would not have been flushed down the toilet, and the patriot act would be nothing but a fascist wet dream never realized.

[Robbien]

16. The only people this matters to are Republicans

I notice a trend that Disrupters like to go to Drudge Sludge and pick up propaganda and then come to DU and say "Believe me I am a liberal but did you see this bad news. Oh it looks so bad for us liberals!"

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[trumad]

27. Quit acting like you're talking through your stinkin repuke husband.

What..you think were stupid here.... Next you're gonna say that your stinkin ass hubby favors the tax cuts and he er....may be right!

[Robbien]

33. Drudge is Sludge. DUers never post that propaganda in LBN

unless it is backed up by mainstream media.

In my opinion this thread is an attempt to try to zap the energy of DUers by taking the attention away from important matters.

And lady, your husband's opinions are his problem, not ours.

[Robin Hood]

34. Drudge has proven that his site is a right wing echo chamber.

There is no collection of information on that site that can be trusted. He proved that by the recent lie he was spreading about Kerry and some woman.

[Cat Atomic]

45. "Your republican husband"? lmao

This sounds like something off of talk radio. Seriously.

If your... husband... has some bullshit Republican lies he'd like to share, let him share them and be banned. Like any other dittohead.

This ditto-by-proxy crap is a bit lame.

[tkmorris]

47. Ditto-by-proxy

I like that. Nice ring and you can dance to it. :)

[goclark]

19. So What If He Voted For Gore

It doesn't bother me that he is registered Republican and voted for Gore.

I always thought he was a smart man.

It wasn't illegal was it?

[nwstrn]

23. How does voting for Gore change the facts?

Not a single Bush* official has refuted anything in Clarke's book. They are trying to destroy him personally, because they can't deny what he is saying.

Does your husband understand that Clarke presented a plan to attack Al Qaeda in January, 2001 and the plan wasn't adopted until September 4th? That Bush demoted the counter-terrorism "czar" from a cabinet level position, and required Clarke to work through deputies? That the Bush* administration did nothing regarding the attack on the USS Cole or showed any interest in Al Qaeda until 9/11? And the response is--Clarke voted for Gore?

Maybe your husband should read Clarke's book.

[cynicinthesouth]

29. Hey there are Countless democrat women

out there married to republican men and vice versa. Look at Mary Matalin and James Carville !

[trumad]

35. Yah...but you won't see Carville come in and act like Mary may be right!

Please...give it up!

[Kadie]

39. Good Answer.

:toast:

[blm]

30. He voted for McCain in the primary.

But WHY in the world would a terrorism expert vote for Bush in 2000?

If terrorism was your number one concern, NO WAY would you have voted for Bush in 2000. NO WAY. He wasn't smart enough to grasp all that needed attention.

You would have to have been INSANE to vote for Bush if terrorism was your priority.

[Kadie]

37. Yep

Like I said above, Clarke new what was going on behind the scenes. His first choice was McCain, his second was Gore. That shows the faith he had in bush to handle these issues.

[nwstrn]

40. Exactly, Clarke's vote doesn't show bias,

it confirms his sound judgment on how best to fight terror.

[Cat Atomic]

38. Pardon me, but so what?

I don't care if he voted for the Bee Gees. His statements are apparently accurate.

I think this claim is bullshit anyway. The guy is a registered Republican.

[yardwork]

43. I would care if he voted for the Bee-Gees.

[trumad]

44. He said he voted for Gore in 2000

on MTP this morning...BFD... He was registered Repuke in 2000 and apparently voted for McCain in the primary.

Shit...Clarke knew that bush was a fraud in 2000. Period!

[Cat Atomic]

46. Hmm. I missed that on MTP.

But my response remains, "so what?".

[Jim Warren]

42. 'many fish bite when you got good bait......'

Especially when you're trolling.



apologies to Taj

[Robbien]

48. It is not so much good bait, maybe just good timing for a disruption

But, bored now.

[yardwork]

50. It was fun for a while.

Troll-feeding can be relaxing on a Sunday afternoon.

Maybe I'll mosey on over to Freerepublic and tell them what my husband has been saying lately....

[seventhson]

53. Hey Jimwar!

I interviewed Taj twice for my radio program. Interesting and way underappreciated artist.

watta fine performer! One of my all time favorite experiences.

Thanks for bringing back memories.


PS - I wish Clarke had NOT said he voted for Gore (though I am glad he did vote for Gore) clearly it reinforces the idea that this is a partisan attack.

But it is just spin.

I think the proper response to that is: it just goes to show how SMART he is.

I agree tht 9-11 would not have happened if Gore had assumed his lawful seat.

It was a coup d'etat and the fascists are in power.

Now, I'm a goin' fishin'...

[Jim Warren]

54. I just love a good fishing song

Yeah, and Taj and I are from the same neighborhood.

[seventhson]

56. donde/ou?

Mass, NY or Hawaii?

[Jim Warren]

58. middle years/UMass.............nt

[w4rma]

51. He's a smart guy. I voted for Gore, too. (nt)

[seventhson]

55. cynic - this does not look bad at all. It looks good

Idiots will spin it to try to make it look bad, but it is NOT worth too much fuss.

His vote for Gore was SMART. Only an idiot would think this means a damn thing other than that Clarke is WAAAYYY smarter than Bush and all Bush's asshole republican supporters.

[Junkdrawer]

57. OH MY GOD, THAT PROVES HE'S A LIAR. ONLY LIARS DON'T...

SUPPORT FEARLESS LEADER. /Sarcasm off

[Gloria]

59. I'm still cringing, esp. since when asked who he planned to vote for in

2004 he said "it was his business." Why isn't who he voted for in 2000 his business??

I got the feeling today watching the two interviews that he has been rattled by the GOP threats. He seemed a little edgy and he was blinking more. Maybe it's allergies, but his face looked different. It's just my gut feeling. He didn't sound as cool and calm.

The thought actually crossed my mind that he was almost sabotaging his crediblity by mentioning Gore. It gives ammunition to the wingnuts that he's biased. He was asked if he was easier on Clinton-Gore. He just added more fuel to that fire.

A little part of me is wondering if his is a plant....he didn't spell out his reasons for voting for Gore. We can say it's because he knew there would be good continuity, but most dimwit Americans won't make that connection. Why didn't he do the logical thing and explain why?? It's just left hanging out there...ANd, on MTP, he didn't include any mention of voting for McCain...in fact, I didn't know that until I read it in this thread. So GORE is hanging out there itself and the McCain info will most likely be buried forever.

I fear Clarke lost some of his aura today...

I hope this is just paranoia induced by the the stupid media and dimwit American electorate....LOL

[GregW]

63. Incoming!

[snippy]

64. Both you and your husband are wrong.

[Oilwellian]

65. What a lame thread

I know several republicans who plan to vote for Kerry this year. Clarke is an example that some people from either side, can cross party lines and vote for the best candidate. What does your partisan, flying monkey husband think about that? :D

[Junkdrawer]

67. The original poster is now tombstoned....

Boy, that was hard to spot. :eyes:

[shanti]

66. bye bye

enjoy your tombstone.

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

68. He could have lied and said he voted for Bush. Too honest, I think.

He could have said that, and no one would have known.

But he did the honest thing and said he voted for Gore. Maybe here might have been a time for him to lie.

[IronLionZion]

69. 10 out of 10 intelligent voters voted for Gore in 2000

I bet John McCain voted for Gore too.

[leesa]

71. It's irrelevant. We are talking treason here.

[Skittles]

72. Clarke knows an idiot when he sees one

Bush is an incompetent moron and no doubt Clarke knew what we were in for if Bush was president.