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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 12:37 AM
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Is this Clarke shit amazing or what?
I dont think Ive ever seen such a takedown...at least since not the Clinton impeachment.

Clarke seems to be unflappable. The others are freaking.

But now we got that perjury deal floating out there.

Man, we are playing real hardball here.
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toddzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 12:41 AM
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1. This guy is rock-solid.
I'm not saying it isn't within the realm of possibility, i'm confident that he has that whole thing covered.
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minkyboodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 12:41 AM
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2. its quite a spectacle
The Repubs have been playing hardball from the start but this recent stuff is quite illuminating IMO. CLarke has got guts to stand up to this admin, I for one am thankful.
Scott
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 12:42 AM
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3. Ladies and gentlemen, let the GAMES BEGIN!!!
It's gettin' deep isn't it. The gloves are coming off and its a fight to the finish.

Bushco are such sick twists.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 12:42 AM
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4. I hope they are stupid enough to try nailing him
It would backfire and it would be blatent intimidation. It would be Bushes terrorism policy on trial. I can just imagine the trail of bigshots from government, etc, that would be paraded out to testify to Clarkes character. They would be arrayed against the usual line up of Bush worshiping right wing nutcases. Bush would look very bad and the truth would come out full force.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 12:43 AM
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5. Also
he is doing a solo act. It's the entire thug hate machine directed at one guy. And because he uses weapons like truth and integrity, he is winning.
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LividLiberal Donating Member (181 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 12:55 AM
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6. Now they are saying Clarke lied under oath
Republican lawmakers seek to discredit Clarke
Frist, Hastert want administration to declassify 2002 testimony

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4601195/


Repukes are going to go after him hard now. I think he will stand the scruity
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mbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 01:09 AM
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7. It's time for all of us to demand the impeachment of the evil ones at
the White House. I wish all the people who voted for Gore would call for the impeachment right now of these swine!
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 01:15 AM
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10. How many times
has this been said..has always been lipservice.
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demgrrrll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 01:12 AM
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8. This indicates that they have done some internal polling and know
that they are taking on water. Bail efforts seem frantic
and not well thought out. This effort in particular reminds
me of someone who is flailing away at a much superior opponent.

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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 01:25 AM
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11. Now shit goes down bigtime
...we are talking perjury charges, court case.

Does the GOP really want this?

In an election year?

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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 01:57 AM
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16. I think he will stand up to it also.
He is on MTP Sunday. That is one hell of a forum. He will have a chance to rip them hard and if he words it right, it could be quite damaging. Clarke is a fighter. He will gain credibility if he passes the Russert test. I am confident that he will. He seems to be a standup guy.
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 02:02 AM
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17. So far Ive been really impressed.
We are talking (unlike O'Reilly) about a no-shit no spin zone when it comes to Clarke...or at least it seems that way. He has plausible explanations whenever they try to zap him on waffles & spins.
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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 01:13 AM
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9. I think
there should be a pay-per-view boxing match between Condisleeza and Clarke. I'll take Clarke in the 5th! And Condi will just take the 5th. And I'll drink a 5th!



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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 01:26 AM
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12. I'm already drinking that 5th, dude.
at least a glass of port...LOL.

Poor Condi! She seems to be pointman in this thankless task,
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 01:27 AM
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13. welcome
:toast:
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 01:30 AM
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14. Welcome to the Democratic Underground,
Oddman.

That was really funny.
Celebrity Grudgematch.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 01:08 PM
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25. Hi Oddman!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 01:38 AM
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15. Conservatives pounce on Clarke like Dawn of the Dead Zombies.

As one Duer said.

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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 02:06 AM
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18. “Have you no shame? At long last, have you no shame?”
Edited on Sat Mar-27-04 02:07 AM by Mayberry Machiavelli
I'm starting to wonder if we are heading for a Welch-McCarthy type showdown. If so it would be the best thing to happen to this country in at least a generation.

Except instead of just one man, McCarthy (and his henchman Roy Cohn), it is the whole modern Republican Party that has no shame...
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 02:09 AM
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19. Clarke doesnt give a shit....
...he just lays it out....Just the facts. maam...as he sees them.

If he keeps up the way he has ...no dice for the Bushys.....hes got 'em cold.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 03:12 AM
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24. I keep replaying in my mind...
I keep replaying in my mind the moment that Clarke told the 9/11 commission that the reason he has been so strident in his criticism of the president is that the president has undermined the war on terror. I swear I could hear jaws hitting the ground after Clarke said that. No one saw that torpedo coming. Direct hit. You sank my battleship! It was history. At that moment, an old and bitter woman somewhere in Kennebunkport was losing her beautiful mind.
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remfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 01:52 PM
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30. The quote
"Let us not assassinate this lad further, Senator. You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"

One side effect of being overly familiar with REM's Exhuming McCarthy.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 02:18 AM
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20. Keeping my fingers crossed this is the end of the them all.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 02:40 AM
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21. BushCo better be careful

This strategy could easilyl backfire on them.

Clarke comes across as a damn fine political chess player with 30 years of The Game under his belt. He wouldn't have gone into this thing without knowing he could call "Checkmate" in the end and turn the whole thing around to REALLY put the screws to the WH bastards. BushCo would be playing right into the trap if they pull the perjury card. With all the lies they've been telling, "Perjury!" and all it implies is not something they want to stick in the minds of the 'Murikan public.

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Centre_Left Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 02:44 AM
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22. Clarke is Overrated
While Clarke's exposure of the Bush administration's fixation with Iraq is certainly welcome, I think it clouds the larger issue of how American foreign policy actually has provoked terrorism.

Clark's approach to the "war" on terror would have simply been to attack Afghanistan earlier, taken Bin Laden out earlier, and encourage the CIA to take a more active role in eliminating Al Qaeda.

In other words, his recommendation simply would have been a variation of what the Bush administration is already doing.

Democrats need to examine on how the US's misguided foreign policy, from its involvement in the Israel-Palestinian conflict to the propping up of Islamic dicators, has indirectly caused the war on terror. Forcing a change in America's interventionist foreign policy is at least as important as destroying Bush.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 03:08 AM
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23. Like the sig line.
No flames though.

You make good points, but critiquing US foreign policy isn't Clarke's mileu (sp?). Clarke is now seen as an above the fray straight-talker. That apology did it--it seemed sincere and the media and the 9/11 families ate it up.

My point is that if our ultimate goal is to bring down Bush, this man may be the point man to help us do it because he's seen as credible. That's why they're trying so hard to destroy him.

I'll take that. Damn me, I'll take it.

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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 01:09 PM
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26. Hi Centre_Left!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 01:32 PM
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29. That isn't a very moderate position
You are suggesting our previous and current foreign policies may be flawed. Not a moderate position at all. However I totally agree.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 01:23 PM
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27. Clarke seems so self assured and confident
I have to wonder, if he wasn't approached at some point by the CIA with a "we'll cover your back" promise.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-04 01:25 PM
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28. The Terrorism Papers
is this gens equivilant of the PENTAGON PAPERS, imo.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB48/

peace
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