Nixon was framed

[pstokely]

do/did you know anyone who believes that?

[Maple]

1. I don't think anybody

would have cared about Watergate, if it hadn't been for the pull-out in Viet Nam.

Indirect punishment one might say.

[charlie]

2. Lot's do

There was a bestseller called "Silent Coup" that hung it all on Dean and Haig, with Nixon as hapless dupe.

BTW, what have you done with Sephirstein?

[mitchum]

6. beat me to it, Charlie...

there's a copy of "Silent Coup" lying on the floor right now. It is both fascinating and intriguing. It cleary makes the case for Bob Woodward being an intelligence weasel. Saint Bob's recent "inexplicable" cheerleading for bushco/PNAC becomes very understandable after reading the book.

[charlie]

10. 30 years later

we're still poking the entrails trying to untangle riddles wrapped in agendas. I'm so sick of matters of national import being buried "for our own good" until it's long past time that anything can be done about it. It's one of the reasons why I'm all for tossing shit at the chimp until something sticks -- his guys are up to no good and they're likely to get away with it. Being able to say "I told you so" a decade from now won't be enough to deter the thugs in power any more than Watergate, October Surprise, or Iran Contra has slowed the current jihad Republicans.

[mitchum]

12. That is the absolute truth

[Wonder]

15. ahhh I wondered about that

I recently saw him ... I can not even remember what news show... and it crossed me mind... while watching... that he seemed way to approving of the bush admin... and this whole mess... I ended up tuning him out... because he was in line with the official line of bullshit... he had a rationale to justify most of it... I remember thinking that odd...

well that's another book goes on the reading list.

[AngryYoungMan]

3. There's a book called "Silent Coup"...

...from a few years ago, by Len Colodny, that advances this idea. Basically it contends that George H. W. Bush was Deep Throat. Yale connection to Woodward etc. Ironically, Nixon's anti-Eastern establishment paranoia was warranted (according to this theory).

[Exultant Democracy]

9. I could see that.

When Nixon got ran out of town with his clan, Papa Bush, Unka Cheney and Darth Rummy where the crew that took over the RWers.

[Wonder]

17. interesting

so it was a set up to get Nixon... what about those 18 minutes... Nixon must of known... he was in with mccarthy... he was familiar with the Oil boys... going back to BofP...

by anti-eastern you mean the harvard crowd?

I am definitely getting this book...

[JackSwift]

4. No, it's more an issue of he wouldn't walk away from the table

as a winner. The guy had McGovern beat, and then he goes and orders another break in.

[knight_of_the_star]

20. Good point

And he couldn't get another term, so what is the point in the break-in? It obviously blew up in his face, and by all accounts Nixon was a smart guy, no matter how you feel about him, and he wouldn't have done something THAT stupid. I'm getting the feeling there is something more to this than there was revealed during the whole Watergate Scandal.

[wtmusic]

5. He had egg all over his face

just like some other Republican dimwit in politics these days...honesty is a serious problem for these guys. It always hangs em by their own petards.

[corarose]

7. Tricky Dick was framed like Jr won the 2000 election

They have Tricky Dick on tape planning the whole shebang.

[Maple]

8. But nobody

would have cared about it, without some hype and instigation.

It was, in the grand scheme of things, relatively minor stuff.

[Pallas180]

14. No guys, you're johnny-come-lightly's- it was Nixon alright, you

don;t remember the break-in at the psychiatrist's
office for the records of (what was his name?)the
whistle blower with security clearance?

that was way before Watergate break-in..

and you don't remember the enemies list?

that WH was very weird and run by "nazi"-types
|Haldeman, Erlichman, with the crew cuts....congress
didn't like it, just like Senator Hollings let Bush
Karl Rove and somebody names Sanford at the WH have
it today.(by the way, didn;t he call jr. "that boy"
heh heh heh

"The worst WH in 50 years of my service"

buh bye bushitas.

hope Hollings sticks around for the impeachment.

[mitchum]

18. Daniel Ellsberg

[Wonder]

22. pentagon papers...

is listening

[Wonder]

21. this is interesing too...what you say...

the nazi-types...

what book would you throw on the table which encapsulates this what you are saying?

[NYC]

23. Book about Watergate:

All The President's Men by Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein. Excellent book. Movie was almost identical to the book.

[Wonder]

27. Thanks

saw the movie... long time ago. Perhaps i'll get the book for reference and rent the movie again. Thanks for answering

[Maple]

25. Nobody denies

what went on...which unfortunately wasn't any worse than what usually goes on.

Which is why it would never have become a big deal without help and hype.

Dubya's WH makes Nixon look like an angel.

[sam sarrha]

11. thats just disinformation to create a out for the Shrub when its his turn

to resign... actually Nixon resighed to prevent an audit from the IRS to find where the money trail went/came from.

[salmonhorse]

13. He should have been framed in an FBI Most Wanted poster...

If anyone deserved to be impeached it was: Richard M. Nixon ~

George Will layed out some tripe just the other day about the 'pay back' politics of Wash DC having culminated in the sham we see today in all three branches of government. He, of course, and conviently so, only saw fit to go as far back as: 'the Bork' nomination to the supreme court as an example of Democratic tomfoolery. But it was the RNC/right-wing, cons, neo-cons et al getting their hands caught in the cookie in their support of Nixon from which they have never and likely never will recover...mentally! Neither party is blameless on many accounts; but the Repulican party has been nullifying-by-circumventing the intent of We The People with a Republican vengence ever since, up to and including, generations from now =

[Pallas180]

16. what a dweeb! n/t

:puke:

[salmonhorse]

19. Only if you say so, hoss ~

:silly:

[Melsky]

24. Nixon WAS framed

I visited the Nixon museum, and there were quite a few framed pictures of him.

But his dirty fingerprints are all over watergate!

[salmonhorse]

26. Good one ~

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[proud patriot]

28. Yeah ...

one dude ...A friend of a friend

On topic sort of

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=125795&mesg_id=125795

[cosmicdot]

29. I believe Nixon felt he had to control history

and not let history define him ... part of his paranoia about the media trying to get him ... his delusion of greatness in that he wanted to have the greatest election victory in history ... this greatest thing would show up in his speeches as his eyes blinked rapidly ... he wanted to sweep all 50 states and electoral votes ... and to do so meant it couldn't be done naturally ... so ... imo ... he was so obsessed, that he would do whatever it took to discredit possible Democratic contenders ... help choose his opponent ... authorize break-ins and laundering money ... there was a lot of money going around to get Nixon votes ... I had a cousin run as the Democrat for a House seat in '72 ... and, the word was the money was POURING in to help buy Nixon coattails ... the District went Republican, I think, for the first time in history ... Nixon surrounded himself with a lot of snakes ... Erlichman, Haldeman, Mitchell ... some of all the President's men are involved with shrubbie today ... and, of course, a young Karl Rove got his dirty trick training from these Watergaters ... and Lucianne Goldberg had infiltrated the McGovern camp ... the beat goes on ...

... of course, Nixon beat it out of Dallas on November 22, 1963 ... maybe he caught wind of what was coming down and thought they were trying to implicate him ... so his plane left at JFK's landed ... and Poppy to this day can't recall where he was or what he was doing ...

Nixon sold his soul to the money interests ...

[w4rma]

30. Former Aide Contends Nixon Ordered Burglary

30 Years Later, a Watergate Allegation
Former Aide Contends Nixon Ordered Burglary

Thirty years after the Senate select committee hearings on Watergate riveted the nation and doomed the Nixon presidency, a key figure in the scandal says he has a fresh and explosive revelation: Richard M. Nixon personally ordered the burglary of Democratic headquarters at the Watergate complex.

Jeb Stuart Magruder -- then a "callow" campaign aide, now a retired Presbyterian minister in Ohio -- says in a new documentary for PBS that he heard Nixon's voice on a telephone as the president instructed then-Attorney General John N. Mitchell to go ahead with the break-in.

" 'John . . . you need to do that,' " Magruder said he heard Nixon say at the end of a phone call in which Mitchell discussed the matter with his boss.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A51085-2003Jul26.html