Have your thoughts re: 9/11 changed in the last week?

[Minstrel Boy]

9/11 has been the story this week. Has it changed your understanding of the events of the day?

Things like:

The CIA senior leadership claiming the agency "misunderstood" the Clinton directive to kill Osama bin Laden, despite Sandy Berger's testimony that the orders had been explicit.

Rice's refusal to appear before the commission and testify in public under oath.

Richard Clarke's damning testimony.

And most of all, I'm thinking of former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds stunning revelations yesterday regarding John Ashcroft's attempt to bribe her into changing pre-9/11 intercepts to cover-up explicit warnings, including names, dates and targets, and that planes were to be used as weapons, and the existence of a "spy ring" connected to the subjects of the intercepts which operated under the protection of FBI brass. (See this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=442067&mesg_id=442067 )

Has your opinion changed, and how?

[JaySherman]

1. Other. I used to think it might be complicity.

Now I'm beginning to wonder if it wasn't flat out negligence. These people seem like they were so pathologically obsessed with Iraq, it blinded them to trivial matters such as running and protecting the country.

[Beam Me Up]

5. Incompetence is "plan B" reality

Don't buy it. This 9/11 Commission exists is to CONVINCE citizens that the government, at worst, was simply "incompetent" and can be repaired with MORE LAWS (less freedom) and MOREMONEY (your taxes). It's a lie. Don't buy it.

True, most people in this maladministration didn't know about 9/11, but SOMEONE(S) within that administration DID know. Just keep in mind that the most important questions aren't even being asked--and they aren't being asked because if they were asked and answered honestly, the whole REASON why 9/11 had to happen (implementation of the neo-con agenda) would be revealed.

Who PROFITS from the War on Terrorism? WHO?

Have you ever noticed how ALIKE Halaburton and the bin Ladden family businesses are?

[JaySherman]

6. Incompetence is as bad as complicity in this case.

Far as I'm concerned. People with that kind of power have no excuse for gross negligence.

[Minstrel Boy]

7. Incompetence is the limited hangout

when the "No one could have imagined" canard collapses. It's always the fall-back position. Most people would rather believe their government doesn't know what it's doing, than that elements of their leadership are doing the wrong thing.

[JaySherman]

11. I'm not taking a fallback position.

Merely questioning and reassessing my previous theories based on new information coming out. It's called critical thought, not denial.

[Minstrel Boy]

12. I wasn't talking about you. I meant government officials and their

apologists. Their fallback from "nobody could anticipate this" is "somebody screwed up." They will never admit guilt.

[Octafish]

9. Cheney said Clarke was "Out of the Loop," meaning: MIHOP.

Clarke is a patriot, who puts his country ahead of his own interests.

Cheney is a traitor, who puts money ahead of his country.

Whom to believe is obvious and America knows it.

[Minstrel Boy]

10. Cheney's "loop"

Starting in, I think, March of 2001, the Dickster assumed for himself a new position created to respond to terror events on US soil. This, despite the White House and the CIA testimony that the "chatter" was pointing to an event on US interests overseas.

What was Cheney's "secret team" actually doing, as they prepared for an attack?

[HFishbine]

2. Other: Incompetence.

[billybob537]

3. Criminally negligent.

Too busy trying to carry out the Bush-41 vendetta against Iraq!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

4. now convinced it was MIHOP.....to many "I don't know's and can't recall's"

from the principles...and the clincher: the aug 6th DPB


they knew....bush and condi knew and purposely ignored and covered up

[Doctor_J]

8. I have been a LIHOP'er all along

I hope I am still alive when the depth of these peoples' depravity is exposed. As bad as it looks now, I believe we are still seeing only the tip of the iceberg.