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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 07:19 PM
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The usually invisible "media curtain" was revealed today
I was just shocked. I was watching MSNBC for Clarke's testimony. It was damning and inspirational. It smelled as true as anything I've heard out of the government in years.

So what does MSNBC do? They cut to some "analyst" who starts desperately ripping into Clarke. They let him go and go, even cutting into Armitage's time.

Then people like Wolfie start ragging on him. And everybody else starts piling on. The media lets Condi get on the air and rag on him, even though she can't be interviewed by the commission she can be interviewed by Brokaw?

It all became soooooo obvious, like smoke in a room revealing a normally invisible beam of light.

I just hope the American people are paying attention.

It was really weird. Like "okay, here's the truth. WHOOPS! We didn't mean to let you see that. Listen to us, here's the "truth" we WANT you to hear. "

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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 07:23 PM
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1. good thread by somebody here on CNN hatchet job
they went into detail about what King/Wolfie passed out as "news,"
including amazingly libelous gargbage!

they actually used the phrase "he/she HEARD something!"

could not believe it

will see if I can find it

that was definitely the low point

tempted to never watch that crap again

here comes PBS......bet they give him a low run, too
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 07:25 PM
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2. check THIS
has "things in his past which are questionable," "unstable" "contentious"..."argumentaive," "questionable," "trying to make a few dollars off his book," "loses his temper," "personal life has some odd questions"....yadda, yadda, yadda.

They took turns. At one point King would pump Clarke up saying that people who worked with him praised him, and Wolfie would then do the "unstable" routine, then King would "tear Clarke down" mantioning "sources who say....(my above quotes), then Wolfie would say "respected by his peers, many years of service, glowing reports about his handling of..."

King would pump Clarke up, then Wolf would tear him down, then King would tear Clarke down and Wolfie would pump him up....but in the end the picture of Clarke which I as an average US viewer would have was..."This Clarke person sounds really weird, why should we believe him?" (which of course was the point of the whole exchange)

It was amazing! They went on for about 20 minutes like this. I was shocked because I've tended to like much of John King's reporting.

But, it's all Media Control by the Whores and part of "PsyOps" anyway.

Clarke will go down as "damaged goods." Wait and see...

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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 07:28 PM
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4. these, as well
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 02:39 AM
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8. Reminds me of how they talked about Dean
the week before the Iowa caucus.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 07:28 PM
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5. PBS did the same hatchet job as the others....I saw it
Margaret whatever her name is....She never even mentioned Iraq once, I don't believe....
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 02:41 AM
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10. Here's Blitzer's own words...
" BLITZER: Well, John, I get the sense not only what Dr. Rice just said to you and other reporters at the White House, but what administration officials have been saying since the weekend, basically that Richard Clarke from their vantage point was a disgruntled former government official, angry because he didn't get a certain promotion. He's got a hot new book out now that he wants to promote. He wants to make a few bucks, and that his own personal life, they're also suggesting that there are some weird aspects in his life as well, that they don't know what made this guy come forward and make these accusations against the president."

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0403/24/wbr.00.html

What's this hinting at "wierd aspects" of his personal life?

What the hell is that?
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 07:26 PM
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3. I agree with you.....besides that they are changing the focus of Clarke's
testimony to emphasize that he didn't think Bush and Condi took terrorism seriously enough....Clarke's main condemnation, in my opinion is that Bush attacked Iraq which was not involved in 9/11, thereby weakening the attack on Al Qaida (sp?).....None of these media talking heads are mentioning his point about Iraq, at all......It's disgusting.....
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Sliverofhope Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 10:36 PM
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6. Clarke talks sense, like he isn't reading
from the agreed upon script. It's a shock.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 02:31 AM
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7. another thing that became painfully obvious today --
how stupid most of the stories are that they give major coverage to.

I mean let's look at the big stories of today:

9/11 commission, the world as we know it, our government, the future, all things extremely important.

Kobe Bryant's cock.

Whether "under God" should be in the Pledge of fucking allegiance.

Can it get any more obvious than that?
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 02:40 AM
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9. I may refuse to say Pledge of Allegience on principle after today
Yeah, the Pledge of Allegiance distraction was SOOOOOO transparent today. It was embarrassed for the reporters who so obviously had just been told in their earpieces by their producers to STRRRREEEEETTTCCCHHHH their coverage from the Supreme Court to distract from Clarke testimony.
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 03:34 AM
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11. That MSNBC "analyst"...
a retired General (mouthpiece for Bush) claimed that Clarke was making himself out to be more important than he really was. I'm thinking, "Who the h*** are YOU, Bub?" MSNBC has been trotting the guy out for a year now, and we have no reason to believe he is more of a counter-terrorism expert than Clarke.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 04:01 AM
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12. I Listened On NPR
No blather, no interruptions. NPR isn't what it used to be, but it's often a damn sight better than everything else. Alas.
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Aquarian_Conspirator Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 05:05 AM
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13. Try listening to a Pacifica station...
If there's not one in your area, you can listen on the web.
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Aquarian_Conspirator Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 05:05 AM
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14. You can listen here...
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 06:00 AM
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15. Tough Election
It's gonna be tough with the Media, especially TV still leaning toward Bushco. They are treading on thin ice because they were part of the rush to war and ever since have been soft peddaling the aftermath.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 06:22 AM
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16. Yes, it helps to have 9-11 experts like Gail Sheehy add perspective
and the 9-11 widows that were on, who have spent a lot of time studying it.

Unlike the talking heads on the networks, these people can point out discrepancies in facts and uncovered stories, because they know it like the back of their hands.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 06:24 AM
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17. Dr. Rice will testify to Tom Brokaw and not to the commission
for one simple reason:

She doesn't risk going to prison for lying to Brokaw.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 06:56 AM
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18. These guys are so blatant
in the way they bend over backwards to discredit anyone who dares to tell the truth.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 12:32 PM
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19. I feel like kicking this one again.
:)
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