when is condi going to be exposed by MEDIA for the liar she is?

[buycitgo]

are you as sick as I am of her lying, quaver-voiced, fluttery-eyed appearances in the media, defending the undefendable, and being afforded complete credibility by the handmaidens?

is there a list of the myriad and sundry lies she tells every time she opens her mouth, from the crap about not knowing about planes flying into buildings?

here's the NORAD PLAN for it\
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/pre_911_norad_exercise.htm

didn't she KNOW about it?

old news on this, I know, but her only real defense is incompetence

and there's the TIME story here, about not having gotten a plan for going after AlQaeda
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,333835,00.html

and there's the garbage about her lack of knowledge surrounding the yellowcake fiasco, in a nutshell....lots and lots about this:

"Condi Rice on "Meet the Press" when asked about reports she knew of the Niger/Yellowcake/British Intelligence deception before the president made it part of his State of the Union Address? She said...and I paraphrase here...'Maybe someone way down the chain knew something about doubts over this claim, but I assure you, Tim (Russert), no one at my level had any clue.'

About a month later, we learn that her Number One man, Stephen Hadley, not only had that report, he actually put a copy on her desk. That better have been a lie. Otherwise, it could just as well be criminal negligence. "

this one is good too, more general, but I like the title:
Why Does the Bush Administration Lie All the Time?
http://www.j-bradford-delong.net/movable_type/2003_archives/002507.html

why is she given a pass, when she's perhaps the most frequent, and egregious, liar of them all?

this should keep anyone slightly interested pretty busy
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=+condi+rice+lies+++&btnG=Google+Search

[Jane Austin]

1. I think she has been exposed over and over.

I mean if they just let her talk, she exposes herself.

She gets away with it because she just shows up for another day, and W just says he has confidence in her.

Case closed.

[buycitgo]

7. I know, but not ONE media outlet has gone after her the way they did, say,

Clinton, and all those horrible lies he told about consensual sex, not to mention the non-lies he told about Whitewater, which the fools for scandal claimed he told

[Jane Austin]

16. The media took it's cues on Clinton from

obnoxious Republican Congresscreatures and RW talk radio.

Dems aren't going after Condi Rice the way Rethugs went after Clinton, and talk radio is on the wrong side of this one.

Edited for typos.

[rocktivity]

2. First, the mainstream media

needs to be exposed for the unfair, unbalanced liars THEY are.

:headbang:
rocknation

[buycitgo]

3. great source here from democrats.com

PentaPost reports Condi Rice has "become enmeshed in the controversy over the administration's use of intelligence about Iraq's weapons in the run-up to war. She has been made to appear out of the loop by colleagues' claims that she did not read or recall vital pieces of intelligence. And she has made statements about U.S. intelligence on Iraq that have been contradicted by facts that later emerged. The remarks by Rice and her associates raise two uncomfortable possibilities for the national security adviser.

Either she missed or overlooked numerous warnings from intelligence agencies seeking to put caveats on claims about Iraq's nuclear weapons program, or she made public claims that she knew to be false."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A51224-2003Jul26¬Found=true

it always boils down to that, yes?

they either LIE their asses off, or they're appallingly, outrageously incompetent

it's all they have

[jbfam4]

12. Out of the loop

"She has been made to appear out of the loop by colleagues' claims that she did not read or recall vital pieces of intelligence."
Than's her job to know, but we can excuse her because she is out of the loop.

Richard Clarke is out of the loop according to Cheney, so he couldn't possibly know what was going on.

[sweetheart]

4. interesting truth she tells

but I assure you,... no one at my level had any clue.

That sounds about right.

[Sticky]

5. An excerpt from Al Franken's book:

From Operation Ignore

As he prepared to leave office last January, Mr. Berger met with his successor, Condoleezza Rice, and gave her a warning. According to both of them, he said that terrorism-and particularly Mr. bin Laden's brand of it-would consume far more of her time than she had ever imagined.'' (Italics mine.)

When I read this, my instinct was to shout for joy and dance around the room, naked, celebrating the finding of a lie. And I did. "Badda Bing!" I cried, as I ran around the house, my genitals flopping wildly, embarrassing my wife and her bridge group.


After the dressing down from my wife, who really read me the riot act, it occurred to me that all I had really found was a contradiction between Time and the Times. Maybe The New York Times had it wrong. Maybe Dr. Rice, considered a paragon of integrity, had told Time magazine the truth-that her predecessor had never warned her about the impending threat from al Qaeda and its evil mastermind.


It was time for the Franken investigative juggernaut to assert itself. I called Dr. Rice's office, prepared to pierce the infamous White House veil of secrecy with a lance of white-hot journalistic enterprise. I left a message, and they called me right back with the answer. A White House official told me that Dr. Rice had met with Berger at a briefing, and he had told her about the seriousness of the al Qaeda threat.

Condi lied to Times! Badda Bing


The Excerpt from Al Franken’s book “Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them
http://www.google.ca/search?q=cache:v_KPPecqYYMJ:www.avatara.com/operationignore.pdf+operation+ignore&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

[buycitgo]

19. you left out the best part, the section that shows the LIE

Which brings me to a lie. When Time asked about the conversation, “Rice declined to comment, but through a spokeswoman said she recalled no briefing at which Berger was present.”
Perhaps so, Dr. Rice. But might I direct our mutual friends, my readers, to a certain December 30, 2001, New York Times article? Pehaps you know the one, Condi? Shall I quote it?

he then goes on to cite the NYT conflict you linked. That's a GREAT one, isn't it? hard to understand how she could FORGET a meeting like that one, given what happened eight months later


from the same excerpt, linked here
http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache:e4cnBkxo0osJ:www.betterworld.com/getreallist/article.php%3Fstory%3D20040127011527534++condi+rice+sandy+berger++meeting+december+2000&hl=en&start=8&ie=UTF-8

[tom_paine]

6. Never.

When will the Nazi media do an expose on the Tragedy of the Holocaust and the Terrible conditions of the Concentration Camps?

The same time as Corporate TV Pravda exposes Sleezy or any other of the Bushevik Stooges.

The exact...same...time.

You know...never.

[buycitgo]

8. I know, but occasionally the internet has an effect

Josh Marshall breaks through, sometimes, as does Atrios.

here's another:

Joe Conason writes that Condi Rice "was caught spreading a false story about Sept. 11, claiming that Air Force One flew Bush to Oklahoma after the attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon because 'intelligence' indicated that terrorists were aiming for the White House and the Presidential jet. Later she testified that the U.S. government had never anticipated an assault by airliner, when in fact there had been many warnings of exactly such tactics...

More than anyone other than Bush himself, Dr. Rice stoked fears about a 'mushroom cloud' rising over an American city unless the U.S. waged war on Iraq. To promote such dread, she warned that a shipment of aluminum tubes purchased by the Iraqis could only be intended for a uranium-enrichment device. Long after the International Atomic Energy Authority debunked that claim, the national security advisor continued to insist that it must be true." We demand Congressional hearings on Condi's lies.

DEMAND HEARINGS! hah

http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=15306

[xray s]

9. Condi exposed?

Well...if she exposed her right breast, now THAT would get the attention of the media!

[BrotherBuzz]

10. there might be a shard of truth in that statement...

'Maybe someone way down the chain knew something about doubts over this claim, but I assure you, Tim (Russert), no one at my level had any clue.'

[H2O Man]

11. I thought Condi did a good job

of exposing herself as a liar today. I'd guess that there are very few people across the country who would say, "Gosh, I wasn't sure what to think until I saw her today. She seemed honest and sincere. She seemed so 'at ease' that she put my mind at peace." I'll bet that those who were undecided on this issue and who saw her would recognize that she is dishonest, ill-at-ease, and trying to cover up the truth.

[buycitgo]

13. uhhhhhhhhhh, how do you think that cretin got close enough to be

appointed?

exactly by appearing as a doltish moron, spouting obvios lies, that credulous somnolents believed as much as they do the swill about new, improved Pepsodent

unless the lies are painstakingly deconstructed for them, they swallow ANYTHING

respectfully, but completely disagree.

they're in our house now because they get away with lying about almost everything, big or small, all the time

[bagnana]

14. i love her claim that they were on high alert.

hahahahahaha. Bush and Cheney were both taking a one month vacation in August 2001. Why oh why didn't anyone ask her that question?? Or McClellan for that matter? Plus, she looks TERRIBLE lately. What a terrible spokesperson she has turned out to be. Quavery crooked liar.

[Bridget Burke]

20. But many people didn't see her today.

From what I've seen of her, I'm pretty sure that the appearance you describe would convince many she cannot be trusted. However, lots of us were at work. Maybe there will be a repeat on CNN or C-SPAN? But most of us won't get to see the whole thing.

What will the nightly news shows reveal of her performance? Will they ask any pointed questions?

[buycitgo]

15. from Josh Marshall

A rose is a rose is a rose.

But a lie is, well … that’s really more an exaggeration. Unless, of course, it’s a misstatement. Except in cases involving weapons of mass destruction, when often it’s simply a matter of “over-hype.”

Actually, it’s all fairly hard for me to keep up with. All I know is that under George W. Bush the pundits who had no trouble calling Bill Clinton a liar have suddenly decided lying is a very subtle, hard-to-define, complex matter.

But let’s zoom in on one case of possible deception which is starting to look more and more clear-cut.

Last January, in his State of the Union Address, President Bush told the American people that Iraq had recently tried to purchase uranium from Niger. Later, of course, we discovered that the documents in question were forgeries — a low-budget hoax that the head of International Atomic Energy Agency’s Iraq inspections unit, Jacques Baute, was able to debunk with a few quick Google searches.

So when did the White House discover they were fakes?

On June 8th, Condi Rice conceded that the documents were fraudulent but told Tim Russert that the White House hadn’t known before the speech. “Maybe someone knew down in the bowels of the Agency , but no one in our circles knew that there were doubts and suspicions that this might be a forgery.”

But Rice wouldn’t have had to look too far down into the “bowels of the Agency” since just about everyone in the intelligence community — and at least some people on her own National Security Council staff — had known the documents were phonies for almost a year.

Vice President Cheney had first asked the CIA to look into the matter. And in February 2002 the CIA sent an as-yet-unnamed former US Ambassador to Niger back to the country to investigate.

His report back was unambiguous: the story was bogus.

http://www.hillnews.com/marshall/062503.aspx

[LunaC]

17. Today's WH press conference

had a female reporter who was pointing out the inconsistencies in Condi's statements.....

Reporter quoted the most recent statement that they didn't ignore terrorism warnings and were on top of the situation at all times, then the reporter refreshes everybody's memory of how Condi had previously claimed "we couldn't possibly have known that commercial airliners would be hijacked."

I was applauding like crazy (and scared the dog.)

[Corgigal]

18. I think the 9-11 families victims

and the soldiers families need to march on Condi's house. Remember how Bush backers harassed the VP house after the election? I think if they want us to march up there and hold a candlelight Virgil for truth then we should be there.

[Insider]

21. it's not the 'rice administration'

frankly, i'd be much more satisfied if they expose her AFTER they expose her more powerful bosses. she is most definitely a follower, not an elected leader. neither a mover nor a shaker she.

the american people did not swallow her lies in nov/dec 2000. they swallowed the lies of george one, george two, cheney, and baker.

in fact, if she fessed up today, went on trial, and went to jail, it would have no more impact than the conviction of martha freakin' stewart.

[LeahMira]

22. Never gonna happen...

why is she given a pass, when she's perhaps the most frequent, and egregious, liar of them all?

Anyone who calls her on her lies can kiss his or her career good bye. Whether any of us likes it or not, she is National Security Advisor and a very powerful individual.

OTOH, if someone else caught her in a lie and pointed it out publicly, the media would report that person's statements... followed, of course, by news of that person's untimely demise.

'Tis a harsh and sad world we live in. The Spanish have shown us the way out of it though.