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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 09:14 PM
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Did anyone see that guy get beat to death in Baghdad yesterday
I've always had troouble with the news showing such stuff. ONLY because I think it's disrespectful to the dead and because you know damn well if it was a white guy in Florida or something they wouldn't show it.

There is the argument that it should be shown because it is showing how truly brutal the climate is there now and all that. But I still think it's not right.

Your thoughts?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 09:17 PM
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1. I didn't see anything on our whore news shows like that.
CBC I take it? Who did the beating? They should show it to the Bush administration.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 09:40 PM
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3. It was another Canadian network - but yeah CBC is real bad for that
Anyway it was a guy who was seen running out of the car before it blew up yesterday...he was beat by about 40 people.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 09:42 PM
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4. Oh, that guy.
I didn't see it, but it was discussed here yesterday and there were DUers happy about it.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 09:46 PM
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6. AH yes....right to trial in the US - important. Elsewhere - beat them!
Edited on Fri Mar-19-04 09:50 PM by HEyHEY
SHeesh
edit: uh..that's "right to trial"
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 09:49 PM
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7. Hey, some DUers disagree with the former as well.
nt
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 09:45 PM
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5. That's very sad.
I don't know how that should be handled. On one hand the gob writing a check out to the Bush campaign while he denies himself a little of life's comforts to do so, should see what is being done in his hero's name to hopefully let the scales drop from his eyes.

On the other hand I agree about showing disrespect for the person who was killed. Also, too much gratuitious violences makes people not care because they get used to it.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 09:20 PM
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2. It's all about ratings.
Show a minority get beat to death- ratings go up.

Show a white guy get beat to death by a bunch of savage, animalistic, minorities- ratings go up, public outraged.

Man commits suicide on live TV- quickly cut away, show clips as promos for news at eleven, ratings skyrocket, excuse it as an unforunate accident and a tragedy.
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 09:49 PM
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8. If it bleeds, it leads.
n/t
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WaywardSon Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 09:52 PM
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9. This wasn't the one where the...
locals saw a guy exit his car/truck seconds before it exploded, was it? They are getting REAL tired of this crap. He is hereby nominated for the Darwin Awards for 2004. Let the games begin!

My son is over there and he tells me that they want us to leave ASAP but, the bombers are the enemies now.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 09:57 PM
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10. Well, we shouldn't have been there in the first place
This guy though, no matter what he did, deserved a trial. That's one mainstay of democracy.
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WaywardSon Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 10:13 PM
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12. They don;t have one yet
This is a work in progress. This happened in the the heat of the moment. I don't know what I've would have done, seeing friends and/or family killed like this. And saw the perp trying to get away. I just don't know. Just being honest.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 10:15 PM
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13. I can see what you're saying
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 10:17 PM
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15. I can just imagine how thrilled I would be to see some
guy beaten to death in front of me no matter how wrong he appeared to be.
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WaywardSon Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 10:28 PM
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18. And if you were one of the dead I hope they could find enough
of you to be identified and be given back to your family.

PEACE
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 10:36 PM
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19. Um, what's that supposed to mean?
Something to do with 9-11?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 10:40 PM
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21. What if this person was innocent?
The mob can't be judge and executioner.
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 10:01 PM
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11. I will think about your son
I know what it's like, I've experienced it for almost a year. My husband is on his way back from Iraq this coming week.

:hug:
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WaywardSon Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 10:15 PM
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14. I thank you and will forward your reply to him if its OK.
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 10:22 PM
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16. That is fine
Is he for or against this war? Either way, let him know that those of us against this war still support the troops. Too often soldiers think anti-war means anti-troops.
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WaywardSon Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 10:37 PM
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20. He's just doing his job to help protect the locals.
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HEFFA Donating Member (414 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 10:24 PM
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17. Sorry, but I'm tired of Americans living in a virtual reality. Show it!
It's time for people to wake up to the reality of war, violence, brutality, and death. We live in a society of fiction -- violent action movies with HUGE death counts, "reality" programming that doesn't come close to our average, everyday, experiences, and sanitized news programs that promote patriotic values over the harsh, cold, brutal reality of war. Show these fucking sheep what the truth looks like and see what happens to the numbers of people supporting Bush's bullshit program of "liberation" for the Iraqis. Show the elderly who've had their legs blow off by cluster bombs. Show the young children who've been cut in half by shrapnel. Show the American soldiers bloodied and killed by "insurgents" in Iraq, and let's see what happens to the support for the neocon war.
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