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ulTRAX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 05:36 PM Original message |
DEMOCRCAY 101: Should ALL Votes Weigh The Same? |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
1. Your vote should be inversely proportional to your net worth. |
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Droopy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
2. None of this weighted stuff now |
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ulTRAX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 05:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. what about where someone lives? |
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Droopy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Why should your location be grounds for your vote counting more? |
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ulTRAX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. I don't believe so.... |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 10:51 AM Response to Reply #16 |
27. Actually |
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ulTRAX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 01:17 PM Response to Reply #27 |
41. and your methodology is.... ? |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
3. If you donate to a party or a candidate or a PAC, |
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Bigfoot (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
4. More fair than one person - one vote... |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 05:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Well, I don't really Agree |
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Bigfoot (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. where did this come from? |
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ulTRAX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. I disagree. |
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Redleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 12:05 AM Response to Reply #4 |
38. You make it seem like a perfect system, which is not true. |
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ulTRAX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 12:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. perfect system? ROTF |
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Redleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 04:38 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. What does ROTF mean? |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 09:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
51. maybe |
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ulTRAX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-21-04 11:08 AM Response to Reply #51 |
57. The EC is an anti-democratic abomination |
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Guava Jelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
6. Republican votes |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
8. Are you referring to our "Electoral College"? |
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apsuman (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
9. veiled attempt to ask about the Electoral College |
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Bigfoot (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. **whew** |
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ulTRAX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:26 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. hardly |
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ulTRAX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 07:03 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. you have the lesson of election 2000 backwards |
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apsuman (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 08:47 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. No, my point is sound. |
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ulTRAX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 09:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. so if Florida didn't exist... Gore would have won? |
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apsuman (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 11:46 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. let me try again. |
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ulTRAX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 11:56 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. oops.... bad ulTRAX... I mispoke |
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apsuman (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 07:25 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. How is that defensible...? |
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ulTRAX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 10:50 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. the politics of 1787 vs TODAY |
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apsuman (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 11:35 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. ... |
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ulTRAX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 02:05 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. you just don't get it.... |
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ulTRAX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 03:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Ignore Above: Easier To Read Version of Post HERE |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
15. We don't live in a democracy. |
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ulTRAX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:51 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. the old red herring: we're a republic |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 07:42 AM Response to Original message |
24. Getting to weighting votes |
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ulTRAX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 10:25 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. takes care of some problems... but... |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 12:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Ok, if we extend it to constitutional reform |
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Zero Gravitas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
31. Absolutely yes |
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ulTRAX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 03:45 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. if you dislike the EC... what about... |
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Zero Gravitas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-04 10:51 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Senate |
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ulTRAX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-04 11:33 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. the problem with your logic is.... |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
34. Easy question to answer: YES! |
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ulTRAX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-19-04 10:30 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. federalism was nation's first affirmative action plan |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
40. One Man = One Vote = My Vote |
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WHAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
42. Good discussion... |
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ulTRAX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 05:12 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. alternatives to protect minority rights.... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
45. Deleted message |
MadProphetMargin (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 06:14 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Hey, GOP-boi, WTF are you talking about? |
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MadProphetMargin (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
47. One adult citizen, one vote. |
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arewethereyet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
48. of course they should be = but if you want to kick around what-ifs... |
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ulTRAX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 11:44 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. real estate? |
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arewethereyet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-21-04 11:57 AM Response to Reply #52 |
58. as I said I don't think it should but I don't get "always taking it away" |
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LividLiberal (181 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
49. Of course al votes should weigh the same! Yegads! |
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ulTRAX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 11:46 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. but vote are weighed differently already |
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Martin Eden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
50. You talkin' 'bout the ELECTORAL COLLEGE? |
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ulTRAX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-20-04 11:54 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. why do STATES matter anymore? |
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Martin Eden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-21-04 01:13 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. No chance to abolish the Electoral College |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-21-04 06:16 AM Response to Reply #50 |
55. the design of the constitution results |
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ulTRAX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-21-04 10:58 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. why should the majority accept minority rule? |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-21-04 12:42 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. reply |
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