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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 02:26 PM Original message |
Poll question: Should we support a known human rights violator and homophobe? |
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nickinSTL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. This may seem like a dumb question... |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 02:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Basically, conservative economics... |
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nickinSTL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 02:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Neoliberalism |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 02:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. the same as conservative Republicans on economic issues... |
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FDRrocks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 08:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
71. I genereally associate Neoliberalism |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
2. Even Buchannan opposes outsoucing and PNAC |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 05:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. this poll is in response to this: |
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cprise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
5. This is a neocon-style "push" question |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 05:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. even though he's a human rights violator? n/t |
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cprise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 05:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I don't know. Is he comitting genocide? |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 05:28 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. he isn't... |
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cprise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
30. I can't give you a Yes/No answer |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:24 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. I agree with you on that... |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 05:21 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. is bush? perhaps your outrage should be redirected |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 05:31 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. I'm not American... |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 05:56 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. what, exactly, are you arguing for...regime change? |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:03 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I'm not arguing for regime change... |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:10 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. what difference does it make if i support mugabe? |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:29 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. well... |
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cprise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:45 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. i beg your pardon... corporate globalization |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 07:20 PM Response to Reply #33 |
58. you know...that's something we will never know...will we? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 07:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
54. Stealing the wealth of a nation is a HUGE human rights violation. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 05:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. i agree...and I'm a lesbian!!! |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
28. According to the UN, area used for maize has decreased |
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cprise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:33 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. So what happened to the rest? |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 07:02 PM Response to Reply #35 |
48. From the UN report: |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 07:20 PM Response to Reply #48 |
59. Getting into colonialism was disruptive. Getting out will be disruptive. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 07:29 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. You're probably right, especially in the long term |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 07:49 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Asking for international support in the stand against neoliberalism... |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
12. We shouldn't answer push-polls |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 05:23 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. ain't that the truth...yours is the best response in the thread eom |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 05:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Yes, this is a push poll in the same spirit as this one.. |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 05:34 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Yes, two completely bogus polls. Should I post a third? |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 05:36 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. go ahead and do it... |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:03 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. I don't have a problem with it either, but I'll pass. n/t |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:05 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. good for you... |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. And it's my choice to point out that it's a bogus push poll |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Yeah, and I respect your choice... |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:35 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Actually |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:38 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Yes, I'm Satan... |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 07:19 PM Response to Reply #39 |
56. If you say so. |
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Ksec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
14. Anybody we know? |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 05:31 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Robert Mugabe... |
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Ksec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
21. Tough question but we must not support a man like Mugabe |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 07:19 PM Response to Reply #21 |
55. I think a coup is in order here |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
22. The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend. |
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dpibel (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
34. NO! We should get rid of George Bush immediately. n/t |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:33 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Bush supports neoliberalism... |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:37 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Isn't neoliberal a pejorative? |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:40 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Actually no... |
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cprise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:48 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Putting the liberty of capital above all else |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:57 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I agree... |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:54 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. So in a different context than DU, it's not an insult. |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 06:56 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. It's not an English language description... |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 07:51 PM Response to Reply #44 |
67. I've never seen it used on DU except as an insult. |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 08:00 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. No, I don't think so... |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 08:23 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. Have you ever seen it used on DU other than as an insult? |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 08:39 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. I already answered... "No, I don't think so..." |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 01:48 AM Response to Reply #73 |
77. Lisa Duggan's book The Twilight of Equality has a good definition of |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
46. FDR wasn't great on race and had a nasty side. But the New Deal was |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 07:01 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Arco's logic is logic which led the HRC to endorse D'Amato over Schumer, |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 07:09 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. ahh... so now human rights are a tiny issue we should overlook? n/t |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 07:14 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. You think that D'Amato was better for human rights than Schumer???? |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 07:19 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. what do D'Amato and Schumer have to do with this? |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 07:22 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. nothing at all... n/t |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 07:22 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. Everything. Read Lisa Duggan's last book. |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 07:21 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. I never said that... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 07:25 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Ending the grip on Zimbabwe's economy that foreign corporations have is |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 07:54 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. That's the same reasoning the right wing uses to justify Pinochet... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 01:46 AM Response to Reply #68 |
76. That's so wrong. What Pinochet did is exactly the opposite of what VZ... |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 02:40 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Yes, Pinochet was a fascist... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 11:17 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. No, I'm claiming that fascism and neoliberalism make the economy bad. |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 12:54 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Chávez? We are talking about Mugabe here... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 02:08 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. What I'm saying is that neoliberalism requires some of the biggest |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 02:48 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. I don't think Mugabe is any better... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 03:04 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. It's so obvious that the abuses would be worse under the MDC. |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. No, I'm not the one who supports human rights abusers |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 03:20 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. These aren't hypothetical choices. At least I'm not arguing |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 03:25 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. the gains in land reform... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 03:27 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. The oppostiion members are advocating a system which would |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 03:28 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Furthermore, FDR had innocent people executed in a show trial. |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 03:54 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. Actually, I've never been fond of any US President... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 04:20 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. So, you didn't like the New Deal? You didn't think fighting fascists in |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 04:26 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Yes I did and yes it was... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 04:46 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. But FDR was a human rights abuser whom you would have voted for, |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 04:48 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. yes... but he never denied food to his opponents |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 04:54 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. He quite possibly executed five innocent people, and he put Japonese-Ams |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 05:03 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. yes, it is... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 05:10 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. The fight against the rule of corporations -- fascism -- is exactly what |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 05:54 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. I don't excuse FDR... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 05:59 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. Now you're going in circles. Fact is, you got to chose every once ... |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 06:02 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. ok, I made a search.. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 06:09 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. It was in their platform on their web site last time I checked, and there |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 03:52 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. wow... it took you a long time to say something negative... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 04:19 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Search the archives. I've been criticizing him since the beginning. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-18-04 03:26 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. FDR was a human rights abuser. Would you not have supported him? |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 07:02 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. did FDR set up camps were young girls were raped as part of "training"? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 07:16 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. What do you think the MDC, financed by European governments, was going to |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 07:17 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. ...and, by the way, the internment camps sucked during WWII, but I'd still |
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Suspicious (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
63. I'm not quite sure |
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arcos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 08:14 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. No... the issue comes from yet another thread... |
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Suspicious (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 09:33 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. We are complicated animals. |
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Vladimir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-17-04 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
72. What you mean |
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