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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 12:57 PM
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the Monsanto milk beast and Mad Cow

http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=16603

If you think CorporateWorld can't get any more conniving, you've not figured on Monsanto.

This is the biotech outfit that's trying to profit by putting its artificial growth hormones into our milk supply. Since consumers overwhelmingly reject this adulteration, Monsanto lobbyists got our government to let this milk be marketed with no labeling of the adulteration, so we milk-buyers won't know what we're getting.

The good news is that several dairies have responded by declaring on their milk cartons: "No Artificial Growth Hormones Used." The bad news is that Monsanto greedheads have unleashed packs of their attack-dog lawyers to sue several of these dairies, claiming that these "No Artificial Hormones" labels are -- get this -- false and misleading, because they might cause you and me to think that natural milk is better for us than milk with Monsanto's additive.

-snip-

Oakhurst is the third small dairy that this biotech goliath's money has beaten down, and others are targeted. For the purity of our milk, marketplace and judicial system -- we consumers need to stand against the bully. Call the Organic Consumers Association: 218-226-4164.
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and

THE MAD COW CONNECTION TO ALZHEIMER'S Alzheimer's disease, little known just a generation ago, is now so common in our land that the term has come to be used as a joke, as in: "Excuse me for forgetting your name –– I'm having an Alzheimer's moment."

Of course, it's no joke, but a cruel and fatal disease that essentially dissolves the brain, causing victims literally to lose their minds. Alzheimer's has been surging in America over the past two decades, now being the eighth-leading cause of death, afflicting some four million of our people.

But there's one aspect of this that the economic and political powers in our country don't want scientists discussing in public: Autopsy studies done at Yale and elsewhere show that some percentage of people diagnosed with Alzheimer's were misdiagnosed. They actually had another brain-wasting disease called CJD, and thousands of these cases might well be a variety of CJD caused by Mad-Cow infected meat that the victims ate years earlier.

-snip-

Second, there should be a national monitoring system of all CJD cases to determine the extent of Mad Cow infection behind these cases. However, the Bushites have rejected formal petitions to enact such basic monitoring, which is done for all sorts of other diseases, again not wanting to upset the beef purveyors.
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I stopped eating meat a long while ago and I've been cutting down on milk, but I'm going to stop drinking milk too.

and I've stopped eating cheese except for Feta cheese. Please tell me Feta is alright!

anything a corporation touches is degraded including people.

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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 01:00 PM
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1. Here in Florida, Publix supermarkets has a gentlemen's agreement
with the dairy people - they won't use hormones on the cows and Publix will take them at their word. Anyone believe the farmers?????

As for Monsanto - the government partnered with them to create the monster seeds and Monsanto gets to keep all the profits.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 01:45 PM
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26. I once asked Publics is they carried modified corn on the cob or not

and if they did was there a way for us to know.
the guy went away for a long while and came back and said no.

like I really believed him.
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 01:01 PM
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2. Nonsanto's BeaST Milk
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 01:08 PM
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3. I Don't Drink Much Milk
But when I do, it'a always the Organic Valley brand. They make damn good chocolate milk. I don't eat beef either and trying to cut down on the factory chicken intake. Switching to mainly seafood, although now it's chock-full of EPA-approved Mercury.

Kudo's for bringing up the Alzheimers-CJD connection. Amazing how much stuff they keep under wraps, isn't it?
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twilight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:14 PM
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12. organic valley rules!
I am a milk drinker and I discovered Organic Valley milks several months ago. It tastes so good and it keeps for a long time for some reason.

HAPPY ST. PATRICK'S DAY!

and ... you can kiss me 'cause I'm Irish (among other things)! :D

:dem: :kick:
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 01:14 PM
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4. Ahh yes....and MONSANTO discovered NUTRASWEET too........
....while tryin' to make some POISON...yet people think this has been debunked and it's REALLY GOOD FOR YOU....all the additives and chemicals they're putting in our food now IS UNHEALTHY...and you vegans...thanks to NAFTA AND GAT...are buyin' fruits and veggies that are grown in 3rd world countries that are polluted with cholera and who knows what else....thanks to CORPORATIONS...they've FUCKED UP our entire world and food chain and supply BEYOND redemption...so don't think just because you don't use meat or dairy that you're safe because all the canned and processed foods are LOADED with shit that's killin' ya too...don't forget about the lettuce and cows that have EXTREMELY HIGH levels of JET FUEL in them now which was posted right here in GD awhile back!! :(
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 01:19 PM
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5. didn't know about the lettuce

is that all lettuce or just head lettuce?
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 01:51 PM
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9. Here's the link! lettuce grown in Califorina..and cows tested in Texas....
.....it's ROCKET fuel...not jet fuel...there's a few links in this thread about it all!! :(
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=389991
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 01:21 PM
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6. thats why i buy from the farmers market and have a small veggie garden
at the community gardens :)
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 01:32 PM
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7. milk pork beef chicken eggs and veggies even exotic game
all available organic, free range etc. Many small farms and ranches are struggling mightily against the corperate big chem laden unsustainable agBUSINESS as opposed to agriCULTURE. Please don't give up on tasty nutritious food produced in humane sustainable ways by small family farmers. Take responsibility for your food - find a local producer, develop a personal relationship and pay a fair price.

We are out here but if you don't buy our products THEY will buy us out.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 01:57 PM
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10. that's irrelevant though because the ground...air and water are polluted..
...as well....there is NO safe food to eat.....yeah some may be better than others but they've now manipulated the SEEDS themselves to have chemicals...hormones and drugs in them...that's the sad..shameful truth and reality of the situation....nothing is *SAFE* anymore!
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Ysabel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:20 PM
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14. "safety" in varying degrees...
some places are much less polluted (as well as less bloody) than other places...
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Ysabel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:01 PM
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11. facts...?
Edited on Wed Mar-17-04 02:03 PM by Ysabel
most vegans who i know buy (or grow their own) fresh locally grown on organic farms...

edit - slight moderation...


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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 01:34 PM
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8. Why doesn't the ACLU take this one on?
It is, in my opinion, a matter of free speech. Jim Hightower was railing about this over a year ago on public radio about Frankenfoods.

Monsanto (and a number of other biotech firms) bought the FDA. Before a producer can label his product "free of . . .", the producer has to undergo all the FDA testing to "prove" that its organic or hormone-free product is superior and produces fewer health risks. This type of lab work is generally too expensive for a small producer.

What we can do is to call Frito-Lay, General Mills, Kraft Foods, etc., and ask specifically of their consumer relations departments about whether a specific product uses genetically modified organisms.

Here are some sites listing producers of non-GMO foods. If a food you enjoy is not among these lists, call the manufacturer and demand to know.

http://www.westonaprice.org/federalupdate/actionalert_072403.html

http://www.greenpeace.org.au/truefood/guide2.html?mode=browse&aisleid=13

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m-jean03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:20 PM
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13. MONSANTO brought us AGENT ORANGE
OF COURSE they're trustworthy and rbgh is harmless. :eyes:
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Ysabel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:23 PM
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15. they also practice slavery...n/t...
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:26 PM
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16. The evolution of medicine has changed a lot of death causes
Edited on Wed Mar-17-04 02:52 PM by SoCalDem
I know for a fact that lots of elderly people in the past had alzheimers, but back them they just called it "feeble-minded" or "senile"..

Humans have not changed that much, but medicine has..

Lots of "country" or "small town" people of a generation ago, died at home with their families, and they probably never even had medical tests.. It was just a given, that once you got past 60, your days were numbered..

It was geneological lottery..

Cancer has always been with us too, but they just did not diagnose it..

I do believe that the CJD has been with us too, but to admit it would be too frightening, so alzheimers is a more genteel name for brain destruction..

and there may be different varieties of it as well.. Perhaps in younger people it is more profound and kills faster.. Maybe in the aged, it takes longer..

Why knows?? Not us..because the research necessary to confirm ..one way or another would just be deemed "junk science"..:(
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twilight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:36 PM
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18. of course you are right
Alzheimer's is nothing new. I believe my grandmother had it - they called it "arthritis of the brain" and also senility.

I actually discovered that another old ancestor of mine that died c. 1920 had cause of death listed to be "exhaustion" at the age of 93 I believe it was.

Hell, I'd be exhausted, demented, etc. if I live to be that old no doubt.

I in no way support Monsanto and their practices, but I do agree with you that many of these newly defined (newly named) problems have been around for a very long time.

:dem:

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:51 PM
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19. a great-great grandfather of mine died of "dropsy"
...things were so innocent back then :(
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:36 PM
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17. Monsanto has been polluting the world a long time
http://www.mindfully.org/Industry/Monsanto-PCB-Secret17feb02.htm

"From 1935 to 1972, Monsanto manufactured polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs) at its Anniston plant.

Documents show that Monsanto knew as early as the 1950s that PCBs were a toxic danger, but that the company skilfully hid that evidence from residents, all the while dumping PCB waste ? sometimes more than 110 kilograms of it a day ? into two huge unlined landfill sites near the Hanveys' neighbourhood.

The company stopped making PCBs, once widely used as industrial coolants and electrical insulators, only because it knew Washington was going to ban their manufacture because of safety concerns, as the government finally did in 1979.

For years now, Monsanto's landfills have leached PCBs, lead and mercury into Anniston's streams and soil. One of the landfills is on a hillside, gravity helping the factory's contaminants to drain toward the area's modest homes whenever it rains."

End of quote.

And now Monsanto is into suppling food? I wouldn't call Monsanto a responsible citizen. Their corporate charter should be yanked.

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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 03:15 PM
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22. More on enviromental damage and a very long running cover-up
Edited on Wed Mar-17-04 03:16 PM by JellyBean1
http://www.planetwaves.net/silence2.html

"Scientific knowledge about the dangers of PCBs has advanced along two tracks, one private and one public. The secret studies began in 1936 when many workers at the Halowax Corporation in New York City exposed to PCBs (then called chlorinated diphenyls) and related chemicals called chlorinated napthalenes started coming down with chloracne, a painful, disfiguring skin disease. Three workers died. Autopsies of two revealed severe liver damage. Halowax asked Harvard University researcher Cecil K. Drinker to investigate.

Drinker presented his results at a 1937 meeting at Harvard attended by Monsanto, GE, Halowax, the U.S. Public Health Service, and state health officials from Massachusetts and Connecticut. Like the Halowax workers, Drinker's test rats had suffered severe liver damage. "These experiments leave no doubt as to the possibility of systemic effects from the chlorinated napthalenes and chlorinated diphenyls," he concluded."

...snip...

"Meanwhile, the damning evidence continued to spill out of corporate laboratories. A 1938 study of PCB-oil mixtures manufactured by Westinghouse and GE demonstrated that liver damage could be caused by skin contact alone, and called for the "greatest personal hygiene" in minimizing exposure. In further research for Monsanto, Drinker warned that adequate ventilation was necessary when handling the chemicals. By 1951, Monsanto also had in its files a 1947 scientific finding that there was "need to give warning" about PCBs because "the toxicity of those compounds has been repeatedly demonstrated."

...snip...

And finally this:

""Monsanto's actions involving PCBs have always been responsible," spokesperson Diane Herndon wrote in a 1993 statement. According to GE's Jack Batty, "Public perception about the health risks of PCBs and the scientific facts are in conflict. Most scientists agree that PCBs are not the hazard to human health that was feared in the 1970s." "PCBs have produced tumors in some laboratory animals, but there is no proof - based on human exposure of more than 40 years - that PCBs cause cancer or any other serious health problems in people." Substitute "cigarettes" for "PCBs," and it could be the tobacco industry talking."

Monsanto has attempted to confuse knowledge of the dangers of PCB's.

Now they say , 'trust us on this genetic food'.

I would say Monsanto has gone far, far beyond merely being ignorant of the hazards of the products they produce. IMO they have crossed-over into the criminal.

Edit for spelling


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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:59 PM
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20. For the Inside Dope on Goat's cheese, check with the Chimp in Chief
As astute Americans will recall, the pResident courageously sat and read to complete the 3-rd grade book, The Pet Goat while the WTC and the Pentagon were under attack.

He refused to inquire about what were clearly terrorist attacks, and sat glued to a children's chair to read the book.

So, he is an expert on goats. I'm sure he would be happy to respond to your question about the relative "safety" of feta (goat's cheese) under his corrupt GMO Administration.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 03:09 PM
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21. thank you but I'd rather not speak or even look at Smirk

I'm just hoping goats are not fed the feed that has beef in it. cripe, even chickens have beef in their food.
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 03:25 PM
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23. Doufu. Organic doufu/tofu is not fed beef!
Edited on Wed Mar-17-04 03:26 PM by Mairead
And it's endlessly versatile. If you want to take the trouble or spend the money, you can prepare meals that can't easily be distinguished from animal-flesh meals (except that the people who eat them will probably live longer and certainly life healthier!)
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:13 PM
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24. tofu
If one attempt to replace the amount of meat in a western diet with tofu the results can be just as unhealthy or even worse. It is not the meat in our diets - even the inorganic factory raised crap - so much as the amounts.
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 03:49 AM
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25. "the results can be just as unhealthy or even worse"
Citation?
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