what a fortuitous set of events

[masshole]

Maybe I've had too much coffee today, but it seems to me that the election results in Spain help *Bush tremendously.

It's already happened, the media dogs are harping about how "terrorism has won in Spain".

An "act of terrorism" right before the election. Touch-screen terminals in heavy use. A "surprise" victory by the socialist party, defying all predictions and polls.

Will the Coalition miss the 1300 Spanish soldiers? Does *Bush really care about Spain otherwise? No.


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[Homer12]

1. They always forget to mention

That most spanish where againt attacking Iraq.

This is why they voted against the Conservatives.

[Skittles]

2. I just don't see how it helps our dipshit "leader"

we lose Spain as an ally and Spain's people rightfully are angry over the fact that Bush brought the war to Iraq and now Spain. It is becoming increasingly apparent that the biggest blunder in American military history is INCREASING ACTS OF TERRORISM.

[thingfish]

11. It doesn't. Not in the least. They're reeling from this.

x

[sadiesworld]

3. The facts work against *, but the spin is worrisome.

[Mountainman]

4. It seems to me that only right wingnuts are saying that terrorists won

I've only heard that the Spanish election means terrorists have won on Laura Ingrahm,freak republic and from other right wingers. I have not heard it from main stream press. Probably Newsmax and Faux news will say it but they are Bush butt lickers anyway.

[masshole]

5. I heard it on CNN, Faux AND my local news today

the locals had a teaser showing Spaniards voting with a voice over saying... "Spain elects new government in resaponse to terror attacks"

[NewYorkerfromMass]

7. more like..."Spain elects new government

in response to the failed policies of war mongers and weapons profiteers."

[grannylib]

15. Exactly....Hope Kerry and other Dems jump on this; the spin that the wrong

wing is giving this issue could be damaging, since of course it's a pack of lies like everything else that comes out of them....

[Wickerman]

13. I would say the terrorists are shaping up to be the clear winner

here. Governments are shifting because of their actions - that is a given. What is fact beyond that simple statement is that Bush* precipitated the shift with his Iraq war stance and his blackmail to get Spain into the mess.

Right now, because took the world to war in Iraq and ignored (for whatever reason) the attacks of 9-11 and whomever was responsible he has allowed terrorists to multiply and now, to influence the outcome of elections. (not that I am unhappy with the peoples' vote - I just don't think it would've gone that way if not for Bush* AND the terrorist events).

Sorry, world is more unsafe, we have less money to spend on non-destructive global issues and we have severely impaired relations with most heads of state worldwide.

Terrorists ARE winning.

You and me - closer and closer to being just flat out fucked - if I may borrow a phrase from Mud Honey.

[Jacobin]

6. I don't get it. If one country attacks another country

the country that you attack and its allies will likely attack you back. What's to whine about?

[Bucky]

9. But al-Qaeda isn't a "country". Attacking Spain's their way of trying to

The alQaeda terrorists who killed 200 innocents in Spain are trying to get buddy-buddy with the Iraqi insurgents. This fits their plans to unite all of Islam against all of the west. I don't think they're making fine distinctions between western countries--just killing whoever they think it will help them in becoming the big dogs of Islamic extremism. Ironically, it does help the PNAC cause if all the Muslim extremists gather up into one big camp of enemies. That helps justify the illegal and now seemingly pointless invasion of Iraq.

[Sandpiper]

8. Spanish voters were smart enough to realize

That the decision to support an unprovoked attack on a middle eastern nation made them a target for retaliation.

If only a majority of Americans were as smart. No, we decided that "they hate us because we're free."

[drthais]

14. not entirely

not all of us felt that way
by a long shot
some were vocal
and many were not
in light of our new 'fear' government

[stevedeshazer]

10. The Republicans are spinning mightily today, true

I don't think it will pass the smell test, though.

I think the Spanish election is a forerunner to our own come November.

If terrorism "won", then why did they vote out the people who were blaming it on the Basque separatists?

If terrorism "won", then why did they vote out Aznar's party, the guys who supported Bush? Is it at all possible that they blame their current government and VOTED THEM OUT OF OFFICE?

What a concept. Let's hope it catches on!

[dawn]

12. Yeah, but there's still 8 months to go.

This will blow up in Bush*'s face just like everything else has recently.

What I am most afraid of are things that will happen in the fall...

[Unknown Known]

16. This is the corporate media spin right now

The real story (which they don't want muricans to know) is that this was a vote against Aznar and his party because they dragged the country into an unjust war. Again, instead of pursuing Al Queda after 9/11, Aznar helped BFEE in Iraq and now the Spanish people feel betrayed, especially since Aznar was trying to cover up Al Queda connection to the train bombings.

EU is calling an emergency summit on terrorism. It will be interesting to see what comes of this.

Also, the biggest news of the day, IMO, is Putin's re-election. With Putin gravitating towards EU, is he positioning himself to be President of EU? I know that this is Blair's dream, but Blair is just another Aznar and the shifting sands will hurt him in the long run. This is just my theory.

[VolcanoJen]

17. Anyone have a linky to these so-called "polls"...

... predicting a resounding conservative victory in the Spanish elections, before the bombings in Madrid?

It would seem that the bill of goods being sold to us by the US Media says that the election results completely debunked recent polls that showed a crushing victory for Aznar and his kind. Does anyone know which polls they are actually referring to, and if in fact those polls were accurate?

We need all the facts to fight their vicious spin.

[darkstar]

18. I'm hoping this is too absurd to fly

Wingers hold that this is a long haul "war on terrorism". Extending the new logic, any country that votes out a party originally supporting the Iraq war across, say, the next two decades, will be caving to terrorists. Like other issues don't exist in those nations--including ours. How egocentric and shortsighted.