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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:24 PM
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Bush, addressing the nation tomorrow night. Is flying in some
claimed nuclear components for a demo after his talk according to CNN. Does any one have any info on what exactly these components are?
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:25 PM
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1. Did they present an immediate threat?
so much so that we had to divert all our resources from Afganistan to Iraq?
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:26 PM
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3. good point.
But I fear the Sheeple could be cowed again.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:25 PM
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2. If it's that centrifuge part buried in a rose garden, then I'll giggle
If he's just bringing something similar to what NK has, or Pakistani parts that could go to Iran, etc. then he's mounting a new fear campaign.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:28 PM
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5. Not if they talk to Thielmann
Powell said that when he made the case for war before the United Nations one year ago, he used evidence that reflected the best judgments of the intelligence agencies.

But long before the war started, there was plenty of doubt among intelligence analysts about Saddam's weapons.

One analyst, Greg Thielmann, told Correspondent Scott Pelley last fall that key evidence cited by the administration was misrepresented to the public.

Thielmann should know. He had been in charge of analyzing the Iraqi weapons threat for Powell's own intelligence bureau.
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:46 PM
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6. Me too, but could it be related to this...


<http://tehrantimes.com/Description.asp?Da=3/13/2004&Cat=4&Num=011>

U.S. Unloading WMD in Iraq


TEHRAN (Mehr News Agency) – Over the past few days, in the wake of the bombings in Karbala and the ideological disputes that delayed the signing of Iraq’s interim constitution, there have been reports that U.S. forces have unloaded a large cargo of parts for constructing long-range missiles and weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in the southern ports of Iraq.

A reliable source from the Iraqi Governing Council, speaking on condition of anonymity, told the Mehr News Agency that U.S. forces, with the help of British forces stationed in southern Iraq, had made extensive efforts to conceal their actions.

He added that the cargo was unloaded during the night as attention was still focused on the aftermath of the deadly bombings in Karbala and the signing of Iraq’s interim constitution.

The source said that in order to avoid suspicion, ordinary cargo ships were used to download the cargo, which consisted of weapons produced in the 1980s and 1990s.

He mentioned the fact that the United States had facilitated Iraq’s WMD program during the 1980-1988 Iran-Iraq and said that some of the weapons being downloaded are similar to those weapons, although international inspectors had announced Saddam Hussein’s Baath regime had destroyed all its WMD.

The source went on to say that the rest of the weapons were probably transferred in vans to an unknown location somewhere in the vicinity of Basra overnight.

“Most of these weapons are of Eastern European origin and some parts are from the former Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc. The U.S. obtained them through confiscations during sales of banned arms over the past two decades,” he said.

This action comes as certain U.S. and Western officials have been pointing out the fact that no weapons of mass destruction have been discovered in Iraq and the issue of Saddam’s trial begins to take center stage.

In addition, former chief UN weapons inspector Hans Blix has emphasized that the U.S. and British intelligence agencies issued false reports on Iraq leading to the U.S. attack.

Meanwhile, the suspicious death of weapons inspector David Kelly is also an unresolved issue in Britain.

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Mick Knox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:28 PM
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4. LOL Props... wasnt it Senior who used
bags of coke as a prop a televised speech...

So very very lame....
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drthais Donating Member (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:46 PM
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7. do you remember
a couple of days ago
someone posted here (and thanks)
the story from Iraq
of our troops off-loading WMDs from cargo ships in Basra?

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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:54 PM
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8. Yes,
Just added it above.
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 09:57 PM
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9. BS.......I don't believe for a minute Iraq had any type of functioning
nuclear program. However, for the radical right, Bush could bring in a geiger counter and they would think Iraq had WMD's.
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mot78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 10:00 PM
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10. Nothing new, just a display of centrifuge technology from LIBYA
Edited on Sun Mar-14-04 10:02 PM by mot78
...BTW sorry for my dupe post

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/longisland/ny-usweek0315,0,6231863.story?coll=ny-li-big-pix

Bush media week touts war
Friday marks the one-year anniversary of the invasion of Iraq
THE WASHINGTON POST
March 14, 2004, 9:09 PM EST

<<WASHINGTON -- The White House will lead up to Friday's first anniversary of the invasion of Iraq with a weeklong media blitz arguing that the overthrow of Saddam Hussein was essential to combating global terrorism and making the United States safer.>>

<<Jim Wilkinson, deputy national security adviser, said the administration's main message is that the nation is "more secure" because of the capture of Saddam Hussein. "A dangerous regime with a history of aggression and links to terrorist organizations is no longer in power," he said.

Other administration officials said they will begin setting what the White House calls "realistic expectations" for the condition of Iraq's infrastructure before the scheduled end of the U.S.-led occupation on June 30.>>

<<Monday, the National Security Council and Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham will hold a show-and-tell in Oak Ridge, Tenn., of centrifuge parts and other gear that Libya surrendered after agreeing to halt its nuclear-weapons program.>>


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mot78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 10:00 PM
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11. Nothing new, just a display of centrifuge technology
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/longisland/ny-usweek0315,0,6231863.story?coll=ny-li-big-pix

Bush media week touts war
Friday marks the one-year anniversary of the invasion of Iraq
THE WASHINGTON POST
March 14, 2004, 9:09 PM EST

<<WASHINGTON -- The White House will lead up to Friday's first anniversary of the invasion of Iraq with a weeklong media blitz arguing that the overthrow of Saddam Hussein was essential to combating global terrorism and making the United States safer.>>

<<Jim Wilkinson, deputy national security adviser, said the administration's main message is that the nation is "more secure" because of the capture of Saddam Hussein. "A dangerous regime with a history of aggression and links to terrorist organizations is no longer in power," he said.

Other administration officials said they will begin setting what the White House calls "realistic expectations" for the condition of Iraq's infrastructure before the scheduled end of the U.S.-led occupation on June 30.>>

<<Monday, the National Security Council and Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham will hold a show-and-tell in Oak Ridge, Tenn., of centrifuge parts and other gear that Libya surrendered after agreeing to halt its nuclear-weapons program.>>


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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 10:03 PM
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12. Thanks.
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mot78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 10:05 PM
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13. Your welcome
But the Tehran Times report, and your WMD scare are starting to get me to think of a scenario I haven't heard in months: WMDs could be found, and destroy our chance of winning in November. THe "Liberal" media won't let us hear the end of it, and we'd be screwed on that issue, unless we nominate Lieberman or Bayh at a brokered convention.
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