body count 1188

[seabeyond]

the thread was closed, cause of the site directed too, but the article was good and in talking about if it is true or not. heard just tonight on hardball sandy berger? talking about how the troops have basically gone to garrisons and arent coming out and the working on civil war that is happening. so that is a comfirmation of sort to some in that post.

i am also sitting in wonder about bringing in all those national guard, taking it 80% guards and 20% professionals, complete opposite of what it is now

[Jim Sagle]

1. The article wasn't good at all. It was Nazi filth.

[thingfish]

2. Really? Nazi filth?

How so?

[Jim Sagle]

3. Antisemitic tales of Zionist control of America. You could look it up.

[thingfish]

6. That's funny, I thought the Nazis tried to exterminate the Jews...

...not make accurate observations about the nation of Israel's inordinate and ultimately destructive influence on America's foreign policy.

Israel is the apartheid South Africa of the 21st century, and the longer people of conscience refuse to acknowledge that incontrovertible fact, NOTHING is going to get solved in that region.

[scottxyz]

4. I guess I must be stupid, because I liked the site

and I posted lots of quotes from it.

Here's the other DU thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1208927

Here's a sample few paragraphs:

According to a well-placed Pentagon source, the White House and corporate media are reporting less than half the actual American military deaths in Iraq. As of 3 February 2004, the 'official' media total stood at 528, while the real total at midnight on the same day was 1,188. This criminal discrepancy in the fatality figures is not the fault of soldiers on the ground in Iraq, but of corrupt civilians in the Pentagon working for Paul Wolfowitz Inc. The Pentagon officer explained it like this.

"If a soldier is completely dismembered by a bomb, then he is dead. Likewise, if a soldier is hit by a full burst of machine-gun fire, then he also is dead. The problems start when the medic {on the ground} is not quite sure whether the injured soldier is dead or not. We all like to save life if possible, so if the medic believes there is the faintest glimmer of hope, the injured soldier is sent immediately to the nearest {medical} aid station."

"The split-second that soldier is removed from contact {wherever the incident took place}, he is officially listed as 'wounded', regardless of whether he then dies 3 seconds or minutes or hours or days or months later, as a direct result of injuries sustained in the contact. Deaths in transit to the U.S., or after soldiers return home are also excluded completely, or become 'accidental deaths'. This is how Wolfowitz and his people massage the figures, and how the American public is misled."

= = =

What's so bad about that?

[JohnOneillsMemory]

5. I thought the author/site equated the PNACers with Zionists. But the main

point about casualties was worthy of examination.

Some people will automatically dismiss the entire piece as anti-semitic. I think that's a mistake. The dismissal, that is.

The information about hiding the human consequences of the Iraq War made a lot of sense and I'd like to see more info from hospitals in the US and overseas to integrate the casualty figures.

The point that many people aren't killed immediately but instead die shortly after an attack from their wounds may very well be used to hide the casualty numbers.

The anti-Zionist rhetoric or bias can be dealt with by the beholder. The PNAC template for world domination has at it's heart the control of Arab/Islamic oil resources and Israel's strategic military role is central to this plan.

Call this Zionist or something else. It is raw power politics devoid of morality or ideology. An 'unholy' alliance (pun intended) between old Cold Warriors, Right Wing Fundamentalist Christians, and the Military Industrial Complex led by the Oil Industry is carrying out a cultural and economic war to achieve Dominion over wage-slaves, unbelievers, and foreigner's oil resources.

This modern continuation of the Crusades has a name, Dominionism.

http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_5160.shtml

[LibertyorDeath]

7. Kick

[seabeyond]

8. silly me

i though the offensive material must have been something on the site didnt know it was in the post itself.

i didnt see any whatever in the post, didnt go to isreal at all in the post. maybe that isnt what i was looking for or interested in. i am more comcerned where the war is and what is happening to the people and how to get them out of there in the best for all people.