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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:46 AM
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BBV: ES&S Worker fired in Indianna
http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1689859&nav=0Ra6LJ1G

Election officials in Johnson County are now demanding answers from a voting machine company at the heart of a recent I-Team investigation.

I-Team 8 has been asking "Will Your Vote Count?" Now with the primary just two months away, we’ve uncovered a new wrinkle as a respected election worker is abruptly dismissed.

Doug Orange had his contract with Election Systems and Software terminated last week. As the ES&S Project manager, Orange helped the county set up new touch-screen voting systems. County clerk Jill Jackson was very happy with his work.

So why was Orange fired? He says the company claimed insubordination, but he says he was just doing the right thing. “I was asked by Wil Wesley, as my immediate supervisor, to implement a procedure in Johnson County that I personally felt was attacking the integrity of the future election and the security of the future elections in Johnson County. Not to mention that I felt those procedures were illegal,” said Orange.

This needs looking into. Sounds like ES&S is playing fast and loose with certification like Diebold.

David Allen
Publisher, CEO, Janitor
Plan Nine Publishing
1237 Elon Place
High Point, NC 27263
http://www.plan9.org
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 02:29 AM
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1. WTF?
"Bound by a non-disclosure statement, Orange won't elaborate further. But county election officials already had concerns about unapproved and illegal ES&S software inadvertently used in the last election.

They fired the guy 8 weeks before an election for refusing to implement procedures that, in his opinion, were illegal and could attack the integrity and security of future elections and then the new clerk who was just elected inadvertently used unapproved and illegal software? Really?

:wtf: :mad:
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 02:36 AM
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2. ARRRRRGH!!!!
Edited on Tue Mar-09-04 02:49 AM by God_bush_n_cheney
:argh:

Notice the style with which I toss DRE's.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 05:57 AM
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5. Grrrr!!
Makes one wonder just how many counties across the country used "illegal ES&S software inadvertently"!!!

:grr:
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 04:28 AM
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3. KICK
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 05:37 AM
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4. Kickit
:nuke:

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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 06:42 AM
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6. How anyone can have any confidence in these machines
is beyond me.

We should just have paper ballots, have high school civics classes and college students man the polls and count the votes.
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 08:01 AM
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7. es&s is run
by some VERY scary "christian reconstructionists" who make no secret of their desire to turn America into a fascist theocracy and send us ALL back to the Dark Ages. I hope this is pursued in the courts, this secrecy and nondisclosure crap is bullshit. This is our Democracy on the line and the People own these fuc#ing machines!
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 10:01 AM
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8. Remember
ES&S has more machines in the field than Diebold.

David Allen
Publisher, CEO, Janitor
Plan Nine Publishing
http://www.plan9.org
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 10:31 AM
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9. If anyone would like to read about them
Tales From the Grassy Knoll

Theonomic Reconstructionism:
One God, One Vote:

Theonomic Reconstructionism is a belief that the only true authority is God's, that allegiance to biblical laws trumps that of civic law and that the Kingdom of Heaven needs to be built on Earth before Jesus will come again. In addition to that, homosexuals should be put to death, women should be banned from civic office, apostates and heretics should be stoned to death and there is a great need for more Christian politicians.

According to the Reconstructionists, Jesus would do what Howard Ahmanson did. Ahmanson inherited his money from his father, owner of Home Savings & Loan (during the S&L scandal of the Reagan years, Home's investors, mostly small family investments, lost over $150 million dollars. No one went to jail). In addition to funding PACs and think tanks, Howard Jr. parlayed his fortune into the majority stock of a business called American Information Systems (AIS) started by two enterprising brothers, Todd and Bob Urosevich. AIS later merged with Business Records Corporation (BRC) and became Election Systems & Solutions (ES&S). ES&S is the number one provider of touch-screen voting machines. Their website claims that their products were used in collecting 56% of the national vote in the last presidential elections.

Todd Urosevich is now Vice President of ES&S. Strangely enough, brother Bob moved on to head the second largest computerized vote-counting business, Global Election Systems, recently purchased by ATM and security giant Diebold. (They now have both the Ohio and Georgia contracts.) In a round table swap of incestuous patronage the previous executives of Global moved on to head the third largest vote-counting company in the nation, Advanced Voting Systems. Combined, these three corporations will process nearly 80% of the next nationwide elections.

http://www.tabletnewspaper.com/politics/73_tftgk.html
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