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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:00 PM
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Christian Dominionism..Coming to YOUR small town? (please read)
I live in a small town called South Haven Michigan..recently the city council here in town decided to embrace a doctrine sold to them called the "City of Character" . It has a whole agenda, and many small towns all over the country are part of it
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=city+of+character

a few people told me they were concerned about the "city of character" agenda, so I did some more searching on the web and found out the idea was from a guy named Tom Hill of Kimray Incorporated
http://www.charactercities.org/meet.asp

KImray Incorporated is an oil and gas global production company

http://www.kimray.com/About/Profile.html

and their AGENDA IS BIBLICAL

Kimray, Inc. is a manufacturer of oil and gas equipment and controls, servicing producers and equipment manufacturers in the petroleum industry. In order to effectively serve our stockholders, employees and customers, the Board of Directors is committed to:

Honoring the Lord in all we do by operating the company in a manner consistent with Biblical principles.
Serving our employees and their families by establishing a work environment and company policies which build character, strengthen individuals, and nurture families.
Producing a high quality, marketable product at a fair price in order to provide a return on the stockholder's investment, share the Lord's blessing with our employees, and invest in our community.
We believe that it is by God's grace and provision that Kimray, Inc. has endured. He has been faithful in the past, and we trust Him for our future.



SO PUTTING TWO AND TWO TOGETHER... this company is attempting to get its agenda into small towns and sneak the agenda of biblical principles into those towns by creating towns called
City of Character agenda..

I think this should be looked at VERY CLOSELY..ANYONE want to do some more research on this??
THIS is Christian Dominionism tactics!






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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:06 PM
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1. Eew!
scary! Can't these people ever just lead a PERSONAL spiritual life? Why do they always have to forsce their beliefs on every one else and into every aspect of life.Geez, they're becoming just like the Borg!

:scared:
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:20 PM
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6. Jesus Borg!
Good epithet. In the 19th century when there were no child labor laws, it was common practice to use strong narcotics on child laborers to dull the agony of their slavery. It's clear these corporate christers have discovered the perfect drug for the American chattel that sustains them by consuming their products and supporting their "christian" policies. This Christian dominionism is a strategy to virtually eliminate the line between corporations and civil governance.

God save us from Jesus Borg. Amen.

:nuke:
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:10 PM
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2. thankyou
this is really scary, you know the same sort of stuff is going on at all levels...thanks for the info, good to be alert to these things!
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:21 PM
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7. indeed, if there is a crack they can crawl through..
rest assured they are crawling through it as we speak...

I never knew JC was so into investments, returns, shareholders, profit, etc. Wouldn't Jesus tell the shareholders to unburden themselves by giving their riches to the poor? Isn't it harder for a camel to pass thru a needle, than for a petro shareholder to get into Heaven?

:shrug:

and welcome to DU Kali!
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renegade000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:11 PM
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3. welcome to gilead
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:18 PM
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5.  I sent this to the Michigan ACLU and I am sending it to
some e groups I know who will jump on it...Its Unconstitutional and horrific stuff if they use any biblical agenda and try to sell it to the city as a city charter..they cant do it, they will have to face a lawsuit if they do. Part of the agenda is to take this into towns and cities all over the country, and the workplaces in towns and cities.
I also sent it to www.yuricareport.com

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:32 PM
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11. Aha! That's the website where I learned of the bill in Congress.
NT!

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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:30 PM
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10. Can you explain that?
Edited on Thu Mar-04-04 07:39 PM by jokerman2004
I know it's a reference to the Handmaid's Tale, but what does the city of Gilead represent in the Bible? I'm about as far from Christian as one can legally get these days, but I had a vivid dream recently where someone gave me a message. It said "There is no balm in Gilead."

???
:evilfrown:
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renegade000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 08:27 PM
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15. hmmm
i actually don't know a whole lot about its biblical reference...

but perhaps this might help:
http://www.biblelearn.com/east1488.htm
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:16 PM
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4. I recently posted about a bill in Congress from Dominionists...
It didn't get too much attention. I don't think it's viewed as a real threat by a lot of people. I myself am uncertain as to Dominionism's impact.

Interesting parallel, though - there are Dominionist/Christian Reconstructionist ties to electronic voting machine companies:

So, aside from being a rich asshole what does a typical CNP member do? Being a rich asshole is part of it. Take Howard Ahmanson, for instance, heir to an S&L fortune. Ahmanson is (or was recently at least) on the Board of Governors of the CNP. In addition to being a CNP member, he's spent a lot of money on anti-evolution causes, funding the Discovery Institute's Center for the Renewal of Science and Culture, which is intended to "unseat not just Darwinism but also Darwinism's cultural legacy."

Ahamnson is a diehard Christian Reconstructionist. These are the people who think the Handmaid's Tale is a how-to manual, with an explicit goal of replacing constitutional democracy with Christian theocracy in the U.S. He was for years a member of the board of the Chalcedon Foundation, a reconstructionist "think tank" created by R.J. Rushdoony. Rushdoony was also a long-time CNP member, the CNP having, according to Phyllis Schlafly, "all the best people." Some of his choice quotes can be found here, but it suffices to say that biblical law requires the death penalty, perhaps by stoning, for a whole range of offenses. And people mocked Margaret Atwood.

Anyway, back to Ahmanson. What else does he do with his money aside from funding creationists, the CNP, and Christian Reconstructionists? One thing he does is invest in electronic voting machine companies. Though it appears to be currently unknown whether the investment group he was involved with still retains a controlling stake, it previously did have one in ES&S. Other notable players in ES&S include Senator Chuck Hagel (it's currently run by the McCarthy group, which is run by Hagel's Campaign Treasurer. 80% of Nebraska votes are counted by ES&S machines, and Hagel also owns a stake). News reports stated that Florida counties were very heavily lobbied by Republicans in the Florida executive branch to purchase touch screen machines from ES&S. They are also used in Texas, California, and elsewhere.

Electronic voting machines should top the list of concerns of anyone concerned about the integrity of the voting process and democracy itself. The fact that scary folks like Ahamnson are involved isn't the only reason. These systems are proprietary, unauditable, unverifiable and have no paper trail. Voter fraud is nothing knew and has been a feature of elections since their dawn. These electronic machines just make it easy and untraceable. The fact that some people whose stated mission in life is to rip up the constitution are potentially involved in their development, marketing, and operation doesn't make me feel more confident about them.


http://atrios.blogspot.com/2002_12_15_atrios_archive.html#90066591

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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:33 PM
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12. I sent atrios the Yurica report a few weeks ago
and the bill she spoke of..it seemed to go all over the web after that..thats why I sent him this..I hope it gets legs..
If they try and pull this shit here theres any number of people in Michigan I know who will scream like banshees..
Michigan Humanist Freethinkers for one..!
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:38 PM
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13. Cool. Keep up the good work!
Keeping you and your family in my thoughts, btw.

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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:24 PM
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8. That's a real South Haven-Lake Michigan Tourism killer!
I used to love stopping there. No more.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:28 PM
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9. The only way the city council in any of the towns who adopt this
will dump it, is fear of a major lawsuit...! The ACLU has the information I sent them via email..I also sent it out to atrios and a few other people
This is one of those sneaky backdoor tactics the Christian Reconstructionists use.
I will expose it as will one of my friends here who is furious about it.
Lawsuit. Its the only way these morons wake up.
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 07:45 PM
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14. DOMINIONISM
link I received by email a few days ago; all about the concept and perpetration of it. SCAREY STUUF Long Read.

http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_5160.shtml
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 08:38 PM
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16. Just when I thought it was safe to walk by the Nazarene church
Edited on Thu Mar-04-04 08:39 PM by Cleita
down the road from me without being struck by lightning, I now have to worry about dominionism???
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 11:49 PM
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17. Bump
:kick:
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Lone_Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 11:57 PM
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18. This is a must read... When the Christian Right Comes to Town
When the religious right comes to town

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By Matthew Freeman

Identify all your allies.
Because every issue has its constituency, sometimes the important task of identifying just how broad that constituency is gets short shrift from organizers. The truth is that when it comes to battling the Radical Right, activists will find no shortage of individuals and organizations who have reason to be involved. Among those whose interests are affected:


Librarians and library associations. They are often the targets of censorship efforts.
Video and software dealers. Again, censorship.
Gay and lesbian organizations. The Radical Right is leading the charge in opposition to gay rights.
Mainstream clergy. The religious community finds much to object to in the Radical Right's agenda.
Reproductive choice advocates. With clinics being blockaded in communities across the country, and anti-choice legislation being considered in state legislatures and city councils, the choice community has ample reason to be concerned.
Artists and arts groups. Censorship, yet again.
Moderate Republicans. As the Christian Coalition moves forward with its promise to take over the GOP, moderates are being squeezed out.
Civil rights groups. The Radical Right has never met a civil rights bill it liked.
Parents and educators. The schools are among the chief battlegrounds.
Environmental groups. Particularly in the West, the Radical Right is working to gut environmental enforcement.
Not every group may join in every battle, but make it your business to reach out to a broader constituency. And remember the old organizer's saying: if you're comfortable with everybody at the table, your coalition is too small.


Get your own ducks in a row before the battle begins.
No wounds are worse than those that are self-inflicted. In the schools, for example, the Radical Right has made considerable hay out of incidents where teachers or administrators mistakenly confiscated Bibles from students at study hall. Or they've been able to win public sympathy when counter-protests by mainstream groups turn violent. Be sure you don't hand your opponents an issue by failing to get your policies in place and understood before the battle begins.


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